(Adultery) C.I. Scofield And Dispensationalism's Foundations

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teamventure

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There are two types of people who read the Bible.

1. Those who read it to find support for their existing beliefs and those things they desire to be true.
2. Those who read it to find absolute Truth about what is, what was and what is to come.

It's becoming clear you are of the first lot.

And you were already given FIVE verses from Jesus' mouth that contradict Pre Trib. You dismissed them. So it's at least 5-0. You're losing.

Nope, you're wrong about lumping me into that camp I don't even want to argue this topic but the bias posters have an agenda. I am a newcomer to this thread. The earlier parts of the thread If 5 scriptures are there no one has replied to my posts with relevant scripture except for one that I saw is out of context.
Reply with those 5 scriptures then.

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No. It's not a VIEW. It's scripture.

Immediately after the tribulation, Jesus will return...
Matthew 24:29
... on the LAST DAY of the world.
John 6:39, 40, 44, 54; 11:24; 12:48

Refusing to accept the Truth of scripture that is repeatedly presented to you doesn't support your case that Pre-Trib is legit.

It exposes you as brainwashed and deluded.

You're hatred seething out of you reveals the fruit of the spirit at work with your views.
 

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Its speaking to saved believers filled with Gods Spirit, that are persecuted for the name of Jesus Christ (Church)

Luke 21:15-17KJV
15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

Nice try.
 

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Just re-posted 'em for the 2nd time.

There are actually SIX, but Jesus Himself states it FIVE times within them.
John 6:39, 40, 44, 54; 11:24;12:48

The verses provided don't contradict the pretrib view. Try again.

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The verses provided don't contradict the pretrib view. Try again.

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Then you don't have a clue what a Pre Trib is.

Those reading along, hoping you will convince them of Pre Trib, won't be inspired by your lack of knowledge of the subject. Your agenda has fallen flat.
 
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Calling someone "brainwashed and deluded"
As you put it is not hateful?
By their fruit you shall know them.
Nope.

It's not an insult at all.

It's a diagnosis.

If you've convinced yourself of something that there is no rational evidence for, you are deluded.

If somebody convinced you of such, you are brainwashed.
 
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Then you don't have a clue what a Pre Trib is.

Those reading along, hoping you will convince them of Pre Trib, won't be inspired by your lack of knowledge of the subject. Your agenda has fallen flat.

I'm not the one with an agenda I have avoided this argument for years because its divisive, however I was forced into it by truth7 and those needing to argue. One of them has no pre trib in their avatar and I'm the one with an agenda? Ha.
 

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I'm the one with an agenda?
By the way you're ignoring all the scripture presented to you from God's Word?

Absolutely.

It's God's Words you are rejecting. Not ours.

And you are doing it without even CONSIDERING the scriptures. That means you have an agenda and aren't willing to listen to reason because you aren't interested in Truth. You are only concerned with pushing your ... AGENDA.
 
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Nope.

It's not an insult at all.

It's a diagnosis.

If you've convinced yourself of something that there is no rational evidence for, you are deluded.

If somebody convinced you of such, you are brainwashed.
I agree 100%, deluded or brainwashed, take your pick
 
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Nope.

It's not an insult at all.

It's a diagnosis.

If you've convinced yourself of something that there is no rational evidence for, you are deluded.

If somebody convinced you of such, you are brainwashed.

You have an agenda to steer people away from the truth because you know shortly your assertions will be proven false when this all comes to pass.
Have a good day.
 

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By the way you're ignoring all the scripture presented to you from God's Word?

Absolutely.

It's God's Words you are rejecting. Not ours.

And you are doing it without even CONSIDERING the scriptures. That means you have an agenda and aren't willing to listen to reason because you aren't interested in Truth. You are only concerned with pushing your ... AGENDA.
I have delivered the truth of Gods words, I'm not in for the kid's games, good luck in your attempts!
 
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You have an agenda to steer people away from the truth because you know shortly your assertions will be proven false when this all comes to pass.
Have a good day.
No such thing as a pre-trib rapture found in scripture, it's a fabricated fairy tale of man
 
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teamventure

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By the way you're ignoring all the scripture presented to you from God's Word?

Absolutely.

It's God's Words you are rejecting. Not ours.

And you are doing it without even CONSIDERING the scriptures. That means you have an agenda and aren't willing to listen to reason because you aren't interested in Truth. You are only concerned with pushing your ... AGENDA.

That is hypocritical.
I had a contextual answer for the scriptures you provided none of you have even replied to the scriptures I provided.
Total hypocracy.
 

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No such thing as a pre-trib rapture found in scripture, is a fabricated fairy tale of man

You respond to the pretrib how athiests respond to the gospel. With violent opposition. Shows what spirit is at work within you.
 

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You have an agenda to steer people away from the truth because you know shortly your assertions will be proven false when this all comes to pass.
Have a good day.
See you on the LAST DAY.

One way or another.

That is hypocritical.
I had a contextual answer for the scriptures you provided none of you have even replied to the scriptures I provided.
Total hypocracy.
Negative. They were ALL addressed.

They had nothing whatsover to do with a Pre Trib Rapture of the saints.
 

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You respond to the pretrib how athiests respond to the gospel. With violent opposition. Shows what spirit is at work within you.
More false accusations.

Nobody is being violent with you. You are just refusing to listen to reason.