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This still doesn't answer the question; should he be in jail if his morals say he did nothing wrong?
You obviously do something unwarranted by the standers of society, that's why you would go to jail. I almost went to jail myself because of what society deemed wrong, but was I really wrong?
 

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You obviously do something unwarranted by the standers of society, that's why you would go to jail. I almost went to jail myself because of what society deems wrong, but was I really wrong?

But my morality is based on what I think is right, not on what society thinks is right... what gives society the right to over rule my moral beliefs?

So do you believe that we should we get rid of jails and not punish anything as a crime?
 

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But my morality is based on what I think is right, not on what society thinks is right... what gives society the right to over rule my moral beliefs?
We're all shaped by the moral trends of this day and age, it's not easy to follow your own moral compass in a world that tells you how to act.
 

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We're all shaped by the moral trends of this day and age, it's not easy to follow your own moral compass in a world that tells you how to act.

But again; should we get rid of jails and law, since all they're really doing is stopping people from truly following their moral compasses?
 

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But again; should we get rid of jails and law, since all they're really doing is stopping people from truly following their moral compasses?
You obviously think morals are objective and can not be altered, because God has deemed what's right and wrong in advance. But God of the Bible has done things that today we would consider immoral.

Is polygamy wrong? Not according to the God of the bible.

Is slavery wrong? Not according to the God of the Bible.

Is infanticide wrong? Not according to the God of the Bible.

Is stoning people to death wrong? Not according to the God of the Bible.
 

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Dunno why you feel like you have to presume anything, the text plainly says If your brother sins against you x times, and x times comes and confesses, forgive him, right? Which is also not the end of the story there, but we are still a long way from forgive and you will be forgiven here I guess

Yep, text is plain. And consideration of other texts are also plain.

Under the LAW, no limit on men forgiving men of sin against them.

Under the New Covenant, no limit on men forgiving men of trespasses against them.

I am not Under the Law.
I do not forgive men of SIN!

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You obviously think morals are objective and can not be altered, because God has deemed what's right and wrong in advance. But God of the Bible has done things that today we would consider immoral.

Is polygamy wrong? Not according to the God of the bible.

Is slavery wrong? Not according to the God of the Bible.

Is infanticide wrong? Not according to the God of the Bible.

Is stoning people to death wrong? Not according to the God of the Bible.

God does not condone polygamy.... it was not His plan for marriage.

God did not condone slavery... he freed his people which were slaves, and slavery back then was completely different than the slavery you are equating it with

You already asked me the final 2, and I answered you.
 

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You obviously think morals are objective and can not be altered, because God has deemed what's right and wrong in advance. But God of the Bible has done things that today we would consider immoral.

Is polygamy wrong? Not according to the God of the bible.

Is slavery wrong? Not according to the God of the Bible.

Is infanticide wrong? Not according to the God of the Bible.

Is stoning people to death wrong? Not according to the God of the Bible.

Right and Wrong....
Or
A Lawfully established Jurisdiction with established forbadences?

For example...Polygamy was not "wrong"...
It has become "outlawed"... aka, established illegal according to established Political powers.

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Oh this thing is amazing, I just don't know how to use it lol

I'm in the sticks, and not a speed typist on a phone, get a dropped connection all the time.
Obviously not the most ideal...ha.

Don't have an IPAD, but you might solicit a pro, like a 10yr old kid to help you figure out your IPAD...lol

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Right and Wrong....
Or
A Lawfully established Jurisdiction with established forbadences?

For example...Polygamy was not "wrong"...
It has become "outlawed"... aka, established illegal according to established Political powers.

Glory to God,
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You shouldn't swallow your morality in tablet form.
 
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