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A bill in Congress makes it a crime for pastors and churches to speak against homosexualityMessage to pastors and other Christians: Just keep your mouth shutIf pastors and other Christians don’t aggressively oppose a bill now in Congress, in the near future they will be subject to huge fines and prison terms if they say anything negative about homosexuality.The proposed law would make it a crime to preach on Romans Chapter 1 or I Corinthians Chapter 6. Or even to discuss them in a Sunday School class. If churches and individuals want to keep the government from telling them what they can and cannot preach and teach about homosexuality, they better get involved now!Senate bill S. 1105 would make negative statements concerning homosexuality, such as calling the practice of homosexuality a sin from the pulpit, a “hate crime” punishable by law. This dangerous legislation would take away your freedom of speech and your freedom of religion. Consider what has already happened: * A California lawsuit which is headed to the U.S. Supreme Court would make the use of the words “natural family,” “marriage” and “union of a man and a woman” a “hate speech” crime in government workplaces. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has already ruled in favor of the plaintiffs! * CNN and The Washington Post both reported that General Peter Pace, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was fired because he publicly expressed moral opposition to homosexual behavior.For the Alliance Defense Fund’s summary of this bill, click here.Take Action We are looking for one million Americans willing to take a stand and not allow a small group of homosexual activists to take away our freedoms. Can we count on you? Click on the link below to sign our Petition to Congress in Defense of Religious Freedom. Please forward this to others, especially your pastor, and ask them to get involved in protecting our freedoms of speech and religion. This threat to our religious freedoms is real!Click here to Sign the Petition to Congress Today
 

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Pretty soon, we are going to end up losing our God given freedom, and we are in a process of doing that. I rather die, than to let the government who does evil who takes away what God wants us to believe. I rather fight against evil.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.P.S. I Timothy 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
 

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My church had fought Senate Bill 2 and House Bill 2007 in Oregon. It's exactly the same as what you have mentioned in the above post. With all of the petitions, we were able to set up a referendum to vote later on.
They both Disrespect and Disregard the Will of the PeopleJune 14, 2007What do the Oregon and Massachusetts Legislatures have in common? * A disdain for the will of the people * A disdain for government of, by, and for the people * A disdain for traditional marriage between a man and a woman only * A disdain for the laws of God * A 'people be damned' attitudeIn today's Washington Update, put out by Family Research Council, their Director, Tony Perkins, writes the following:"More than 200 years ago, the Second Continental Congress resolved that one flag would represent America to the world. It ordered that "the flag of the United States be made of thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new constellation." Today, on the very date reserved to honor the flag's proud and glorious history, what was seen waving throughout Boston wasn't Old Glory, but a handful of rainbow flags, symbols not of unity but of division. The colors crowned a contentious battle for marriage, which, this afternoon, suffered a vicious blow at the hands of the Massachusetts legislature. Spurning their own constituents, state lawmakers voted 45 to 151 to take the decision of protecting marriage out of voters' hands. In the end, all three branches of government conspired to frustrate the desire of the voters, ignoring over 170,000 residents who signed petitions, wrongly believing that the principle of representative government would prevail. News outlets like the Boston Globe hinted that Gov. Deval Patrick (D) was buying off votes with political favors as late as yesterday. National politicians also weighed in, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), and Chairman of the DNC Howard Dean, fearing the issue would become a rallying cry for the 2008 elections. Their actions today may prove to be the very motivator they feared. After Massachusetts, pro-family forces across the nation will be even more motivated to pursue a federal amendment protecting marriage. Despite the shameless games and political maneuvers, we must not give up on the fight. The flag that has led us into every contest for America will lead us now, reminding us of the founding ideals, like marriage and family, that so many have died to protect."The SimilaritiesIn 2004, every statewide elected official in Oregon , including our current Governor, Attorney General, Secretary of State, State Treasurer, and State Superintendent of Schools, agreed with the Multnomah County Commissioners when the Commissioners granted marriage licenses to 'same sex couples.' Moreover, they were outspoken in their opposition to Measure 36, ensuring that marriage remained between a man and a woman only.Since then, along with their democrat friends in the legislature, they 'spurned their own constituents, ' played 'shameless games' to circumvent the Constitution and the will of the people, and simply 'conspired to frustrate the desire of the voters' by creating another form of marriage that they call 'domestic partnerships.'Just as shamelessly, they decided to force us to accept a morality we do not accept by passing another law (SB 2) providing special rights to those who advocate and practice immoral behavior related to the bill installing 'domestic partnerships.'The Massachusetts Legislature has done virtually the same things. However, there are two differences between Massachusetts East and Massachusetts West: Whereas the people of Oregon voted on this issue, the people of Massachusetts are being prevented from voting by their legislature.In Oregon, however, the matter is even worse. Even after the people voted on the issue, the Oregon Legislature, led by our Governor, is determined to ignore and circumvent the will of the people altogether, and the Constitutional Amendment we passed.If Oregonians do not arise and take back their government, the arrogant and 'enlightened' amongst us who live in Portland, Corvallis, Eugene and Ashland, will dictate to us for decades to come.The Referendums are the first step in recovering government of, by, and for the people.
 

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The United States Of America is A Demonic Nation in My opinion. When Is the Church going to Repent, and Maybee we would be allowed to take it back?????? It was founded as a Theocratic Republic, which simply could not recognize a particular denomination -and thus esablish it as a national sect, within a Christian Nation, which even went to far in allowing guest status to any belief -including non believers, in certain areas of the country. We need A Theocratic Republic, becuase "Democracies," naturaly refute any absolute anything, in place of relativism -which kills God, and therefore Democracies are amongst the most evil forms of government possible God BlessMike
 

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Well it is for at least two reasons.1. Too many denominations that speak the doctrine of men.2. Undoctrinal educations.The only good thing about it is Our Freedom of Speech.1. We have to defend our Faith in Christ. We can not afford to listen to the ways of the world.Love much from JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
 

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I am not that educated on everything that had involved religion in Congress, but it is my personal opinion that the reason why this country and culture seems so out of whack these days and the reason why there are so many different laws about the same subject is that no one wants to base the law off of religion. I feel as though I am being agressive and very blunt about this, but even though this is the 'melting pot' of the world, the original government that established the land of the free based most decisions off of God's laws. Our government should embrace Christianity and anyone that believes in another religion, is free to do so. The intent of our constitutional rights has been lost in translation.
 

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I am sorry but I would rather die than compromise the word of God.Look we are all sinners,we all still sin,but to compromise the word and justify sin is something I cannot do.As for all the watered down denominations,they will be the death of all other true Christians with their support of the abominations of this world.I may end up dying for my beliefs,but I will die fighting.
 

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Hi All,Just a reminder to not boast of tomorrow in fighting. We may not be here.James 4: 13Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain: 14Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. 15For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that. 16But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil. 17Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.And keep this in mind.Romans 12: 18If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.Matthew 5: 10Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you....38Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. 41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.Hebrews 10: 25Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.Of all the people you would think we would be allowed to fight physically, it would be those with the mark of the beast since they are damned to the lake of fire, right? But look at the instructions ofr the saints as they go through the great tribulationas there is a "war" on the saints.Revelations 13: 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.Revelations 14: 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.So, this is just a reminder bout how to fight. We fight the good fight in keeping the faith. We love others by telling them the truth and warning them by scriptures. And we need to trust the Lord to help us turn the other cheek when they insult us, hit us, hurt us, or even kill us for our kingdom is not of this world and neither should we fight for it. Jesus came to save the lost and as such, may the Lord use us as a witness to the world to expose the works of darkness by shining the Light of Christ. It is not in our flesh to do it, so that is why we need Jesus to help us serve Him as well as live as His for I tell you the truth, I would prefer to harm those that would even threaten me, but that is not the way of Christ and thus I need Him to help me love the enemy, but hate the sin, and be prepared for Him to enable me to suffer harm and to die in His name as He died for us while we were yet sinners. He can do this. Trust Him.
 

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Folks,What am I hearing about your disrespect for America a country that GOD blesses? This nation's founding documents were founded from GOD's Word. This nation is so blessed since it is home to many of the scattered tribes of Israel. The problem is that many fake pastors we have today, forget to tell their flocks that The country ISRAEL is made up of the House of Judah. The 10 Northern tribes known as Israel or Ephraim( because it was the largest) were taken captive by the Assyrian, went over the Caucus Mountains to Europe and eventually some continued on to the Americas.Documentation" The Abrahamic Covenant" by E. Raymond Capt. The liberals and atheists and Kenites in this country have used Revisionism( revising or omitting truths) in the propaganda outlets, they call Public Schools and their textbooks. Here is a perfect example:Most of you were taught that Thanksgiving was a holiday when the pilgrims and the Indians shared a meal for their good harvest. In actuality, George Washington made a Declaration of Thanksgiving, while he was in office. It was a declaration so that all citizens would take the same day every year to thank ALMIGHTY GOD for the blessings he has bestowed on this great nation. GOD is mentioned like 30 times in the original document enough to make any atheist or Kenite cringe while reading it.You can see a free seminar at americansolutions.com and look for "Rediscovering GOD in America" by David Barton a historian from wallbuilders.com. Also at his site, you can get free copies of original founding father's writings with GOD and the Bible mentioned frequently. They recently did a study of 15.000 writings fron our founding fathers. 34% of the letters quoted the Bible, the most quoted source.Also, there is an exceptions clause in the US Constitution that we need to get the Congress to enact to help stop this nonsense against our faith. It says that the Congress can limit what judges can rule on, to stop judges from legislating from their bench, for example, the Congress can decide they don't want our Christian heritage questioned so judges can't rid our society of GOD. First we have to reelect Republicans and then ask them to enact this clause. Socialism, as in universal healthcare, is a godless society. Their god is gov't. We must act to keep GOD over our nation.GOD's word is the most important document to us Christians, but in order to fight the evil that faces our nation, you might want to get to know your nation and its history alittle better. Many people have died for our freedoms today and "evil thrives when good men do nothing". Remember what Christ taught us in Matt 10:28. Fear not he who can kill the body, but fear he who can kill the body and the soul( GOD).Christians are not wimps! When you are slapped by another preacher for overloading his donkey, turn the other cheek.But, if you are slapped by some fool when you are not teaching GOD's word, deck him. Too many fake pastors have taken verses out of context. When Christ taught "turn the other cheek"(Matt 5:39) he was speaking to the disciples telling them how to preach as he prepared them to go forth. Do you remember when Judas brought the bunch to take Christ away to be tried and crucified?In Matt 26:51,Mark 14:47,Luke 22,50,John18,10One of the disciples( we are finally told who it was in John)Peter( who founded the church in Acts 2), took out a sword and cut off the ear of one of the church servants who came for Christ. He wasn't there to preach or spread GOD's word.We need to physically arm ourselves to protect our families if needed, but spiritually, get on our gospel armour. Ephesians 6:11-17. Our sword is the word of GOD.
 

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Folks,What am I hearing about your disrespect for America a country that GOD blesses? This nation's founding documents were founded from GOD's Word. This nation is so blessed since it is home to many of the scattered tribes of Israel. The problem is that many fake pastors we have today, forget to tell their flocks that The country ISRAEL is made up of the House of Judah. The 10 Northern tribes known as Israel or Ephraim( because it was the largest) were taken captive by the Assyrian, went over the Caucus Mountains to Europe and eventually some continued on to the Americas.Documentation" The Abrahamic Covenant" by E. Raymond Capt. The liberals and atheists and Kenites in this country have used Revisionism( revising or omitting truths) in the propaganda outlets, they call Public Schools and their textbooks. Here is a perfect example:Most of you were taught that Thanksgiving was a holiday when the pilgrims and the Indians shared a meal for their good harvest. In actuality, George Washington made a Declaration of Thanksgiving, while he was in office. It was a declaration so that all citizens would take the same day every year to thank ALMIGHTY GOD for the blessings he has bestowed on this great nation. GOD is mentioned like 30 times in the original document enough to make any atheist or Kenite cringe while reading it.You can see a free seminar at americansolutions.com and look for "Rediscovering GOD in America" by David Barton a historian from wallbuilders.com. Also at his site, you can get free copies of original founding father's writings with GOD and the Bible mentioned frequently. They recently did a study of 15.000 writings fron our founding fathers. 34% of the letters quoted the Bible, the most quoted source.Also, there is an exceptions clause in the US Constitution that we need to get the Congress to enact to help stop this nonsense against our faith. It says that the Congress can limit what judges can rule on, to stop judges from legislating from their bench, for example, the Congress can decide they don't want our Christian heritage questioned so judges can't rid our society of GOD. First we have to reelect Republicans and then ask them to enact this clause. Socialism, as in universal healthcare, is a godless society. Their god is gov't. We must act to keep GOD over our nation.GOD's word is the most important document to us Christians, but in order to fight the evil that faces our nation, you might want to get to know your nation and its history alittle better. Many people have died for our freedoms today and "evil thrives when good men do nothing". Remember what Christ taught us in Matt 10:28. Fear not he who can kill the body, but fear he who can kill the body and the soul( GOD).Christians are not wimps! When you are slapped by another preacher for overloading his donkey, turn the other cheek.But, if you are slapped by some fool when you are not teaching GOD's word, deck him. Too many fake pastors have taken verses out of context. When Christ taught "turn the other cheek"(Matt 5:39) he was speaking to the disciples telling them how to preach as he prepared them to go forth. Do you remember when Judas brought the bunch to take Christ away to be tried and crucified?In Matt 26:51,Mark 14:47,Luke 22,50,John18,10One of the disciples( we are finally told who it was in John)Peter( who founded the church in Acts 2), took out a sword and cut off the ear of one of the church servants who came for Christ. He wasn't there to preach or spread GOD's word.We need to physically arm ourselves to protect our families if needed, but spiritually, get on our gospel armour. Ephesians 6:11-17. Our sword is the word of GOD.
You can't say that. If anything, we are currently in the State warned about in Romans 1: 18-36. Given over or our own degrading passions. And worse yet, we now believe that it is our Christian duty to bombe the entire world into joining our slouch towards Gomorra. It is not hating ones country to point out that we are headed in the wrong direction and to stand against it.There is no Gospel calling upon us to be yes men to any government which claims to be doing a divine duty while blatently violating God's word. Sorry, but Jesus does not fly the stars & stripes which has recently had it'a stars turn into condom packs and the stipes have taken on the shape of needles.
 

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Hi BernieEOD!Amazing how those that we elect into the public office as God fearing folks are sleeping to allow this trend to sneak in, huh? Makes me wonder if anyone this country elect next will be any better at the job of stemming the tide of moral decay.It just irks me that everytime this comes up, people are asking for money to fight this thing in court. I am fed up with this do or die solicitations as the people ought to be getting the names of these yahoos for even considering the case having merit to have the court's time in the first place.How would they like it if someone snuck in the death penalty for all homosexuals? Relive the glory days of Israel and stone the homosexuals right after it gets legalize? But we know our legislative elected officials will never stand for that or even give that case any of the court's time and as well they shouldn't! But here we are facing the opposite extreme of saying it is illegal to speak against it. Freedom of speech declares that we can speak against it as they have the freedom to speak for it. Take the rights of one side away, then the homosexuals will degrade even more as they push their way of life to be accepted or else. Kind of reminds me of the attitude of how the people in Sodom/ Gomorra treated the two angels when they visited the city.I say this... if they even so much as get a victory over that, America should unite for a voiced protests to the idiots for passing it... and impeach them as betraying one of the country's freedom to serve the conscience of an immoral minority by enforcing a law of silence on their sinful lifestyles that they are voicing to the public as being normal when it is not. You don't see the fornicators or the adulterors trying to get the nation to accept their sinful lifestyle. They just do it behind closed doors. They glamorize it on television and movies. But they don't say no one can speak against it.Hopefully, the elected officials shall deny this law from coming to pass in restricting freedom of speech and from calling it a hate crime to speak against it.
 

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We christians are already attacked by the Media in America.I mean youve talked about it before to be christrian you have to be anti-cultural. With sex adds and swearing and hate speech and the veriety of music and the movies and everything else, america is going against our christian values. While claiming to be a deadly nation.I say It would be better to live in Iran where you could be killed for being christian. at least there you are being attacked physically. Here you are being attacked eternally. America is indeed the most dangerous place for a christian to live in. so therefore it isn't surprising that there making it a crime to preach Gods word. Because God bless America, but America may never bless you. Is America starting to physically attack christians along with eternally.It wouldn't surprise me.Your Brother In ChristRyan Fitz
 

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This goes against the 1st amendment. Congress can't make laws against Religion, the practice of religion or free speech. This falls under all three. They can teach homosexuality in public schools but they can't stop us from telling them that it is wrong. I bet if we had enough money to pay for really good lawyers we could get them to reverse the decision on teaching homosexuality as it is against our religion. I'm so glad I moved from Kalifornia, I should have done it ten years earlier.
 

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Well, I'm not the sort that believes homosexuality is wrong, but even I can't stand behind this bill. For Life is right - it's a clear first amendment violation. If they were teaching homosexuality was wrong in schools that would be one matter, but to tell a church - something that no one is forced into and joins purely out of choice - that they can't express their own opinions is just wrong.
 

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It's a definite reality. We were asked through frc (Family Research Council)to call our state senators to express how feel about this Hate Crimes proposed legislation a while back. We wanted them to vote against putting it into play because it is against our 1st amendment right. Nevertheless, there are those that are saying since Christians speak out against other groups publically (be it in church or anywhere) they should be fined or have some consequence. Yet the other side has freedom to use filthy language on the streets of our country, play terrible music for our children to be exposed to, and can show and sell trash at the movies and in video stores. I guess it's all a sign of the times.
 

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What happened to separation of church and state? Isn't this what England did (on a smaller scale) when they started dictating what people could believe? I thought that was what the Constitution was supposed to protect us from, government controlled religion. There is no more Constitution, no more religion, and no more freedom. Thank you socialism/communism.
 

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What happened to separation of church and state? Isn't this what England did (on a smaller scale) when they started dictating what people could believe? I thought that was what the Constitution was supposed to protect us from, government controlled religion. There is no more Constitution, no more religion, and no more freedom. Thank you socialism/communism.
Hillary = Socialist.
 

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Hillary = Socialist.
What's Hillary got to do with any of this?
 

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What's Hillary got to do with any of this?
She accepts homosexuality and abortion. She'll probably be the first to sign a bill against "discrimination" to homosexuals.
 

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Well, I won't vote for her either. So, I guess you know which side of the fence I'm on. I may be considered as one who is throwing her vote away, but that's okay. I will vote according to my convictions.