America’s Choice: A Christian Nation or Part of the New World Order?

[JohnPaul]

I've noticed more U.S. states have loosened their concealed gun permit laws, allowing more citizens to go armed, (as if U.S. citizens actually needed that, since the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution says the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.) The fact that more state legislatures are willing to allow more citizens concealed gun carry permits points to their understanding of a coming threat upon our nation.

This is a good thing, hopefully they’ll loosen the laws on guns too in New Jersey because right now it’s very difficult to obtain a gun permit, let alone one to conceal and carry.

 

[JohnPaul]

Don’t look now my friend but it already is.....and from the inside out. It isn’t just your country, but every nation on earth is suffering from a global assault on its way of life. We are in the last days of this wicked world and NO nation is going to survive the judgment that is coming. You cannot defend your country from that coming judgment. That is the one people need to be concentrating on.....external threats are the least of your worries.


He understands better than you think.....he knows when someone is fighting on the wrong team....justifying your position is only fooling yourself.

Can I remind you of things I have said before....when Jesus comes as judge, he is going to do so on the basis of who is “doing the will of the Father”....those who put their own will before God’s will not pass the test of loyalty to Jehovah. (Matthew 7:21-23) The devil is out to divide our loyalties and if he can separate us from what we know God’s word teaches, he has won. It’s how he got Eve and her husband to disobey God in Eden. It has worked for him since the beginning....he has no new tricks.

Our common enemy is stronger than we are, but he is no match for Jehovah and his appointed King. If we lose Jehovah, we have no defence.

What were the two greatest commandments according to Jesus?
Matthew 22:37-39...
“You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.”

The first Commandment is the most important.....and it leaves no room for divided loyalties.
Our “whole heart, soul and mind” has to belong to Jehovah.....it’s not a request...it’s a “must”.
The second Commandment is pointless unless we have fulfilled the first one.

There is a clear line of demarcation that we cannot cross. We have to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29)

It’s a choice and we have to make it if we want to live the life that Jehovah had planned for us in the beginning. We must choose with the Bible knowledge in our head, not with the patriotic spirit in our heart.

@Aunty Jane there is someone on here calling for you Aunty Jane, who keeps spewing garbage out of his mouth about the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

I know what you are saying Aunty, and you know I love you with all my heart, but I have to do what is in my heart and pray God will understand, my dearest sister.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Here's the problem.
We wouldn't be returning evil. We would be returning JUSTICE.
So David was evil when he defended Israel with the armies against the Philistines that came to destroy them?
Or was God "with" David?

There is the first problem.....what was David defending? And why was God backing him up?

Israel had a land that was given to them by God, with a clearly defined border that was rightly defended, with God’s sanction. The only time Israel went to war was to defend that gift from godless invaders. Can you tell me if your country was God-given? Or, like mine, was it stolen from its First Nation people with bloodshed? Does God defend those who steal from others out of greed for prideful conquest?
Is it justice when one has stolen property that is coveted by others who also have greed for conquest and world domination? Whose world are we living in? (1 John 5:19)
The world is basically alienated from God, so it will do whatever it wants until God steps in and says “enough!” Soon now, we hope.

Your in Australia?
China is creeping in on your borders.
When China decides it's time to enforce their policies on Australia, will Australians just sit back and do nothing to protect their way of life?

I have no doubt that whatever is in our future, God has it under his control. What is destined to happen will happen whether we like it or not. What the world does politically, has nothing to do with me. I will just be an innocent bystander as Jesus taught me to be “ no part of the world”.....staying out of its corrupt politics, it’s greedy commercialism, and it’s false religion. If it all goes belly up, that is nothing new for Christians. We actually expect it....but God will support his people as he always has.

If China decides it wants to move in on Australia, then God will no longer be allowed to be worshipped.
Would you fight for your right to worship God?
Or just sit back and let the enemy take that from you?

Time is short and it could be you will be facing that decision sooner than you think.
And I believe in Australia all the citizens guns have been removed.
How large is China's army? How many people live in Australia? Is the military alone outnumbered?
How will the citizens be able to defend their rights?

Like I said, what is going to happen has all been foretold and it will go all the way to it’s end before God intervenes and brings this horrible world to an accounting. Those who are part of it will go down with it. “If Jesus tells us to be NO part of the world”...what part of “NO” do we fail to understand?

In America we have the 2nd amendment which allows it's citizens to bare arms, for times like these

I often have to smile when I read things like this.....as if your puny armaments can fight against a government with superior weapons that can wipe out any opposers with pin point accuracy without leaving their comfortable chairs in HQ.
It’s a totally false sense of security IMO.
You have more to fear from looney people with assault weapons in your country than you ever have from any external threats, or the threat from your own government, yet you can’t see past your “right to bear arms”.

What will be will be, and I can leave it all in God’s capable hands. He has foretold all of it..... Do you think he needs any of us to step in, as if he cannot.....do you know why he hasn’t up until now?

If you have no idea why he has allowed the world to arrive at its current state, then perhaps a Bible study will answer all your questions as it has mine. I have no need or desire to interfere with what is taking place and I am eager for the intervention I know is coming. My role as a disciple of Christ is to tell people about God’s solution to man’s woes.....the coming of his Kingdom which will result in what is foretold at Revelation 21:2-4. That is what I look forward to....what’s happening now is all just the leadup to the final showdown....nothing can stop it or make it better by their own actions.

I do not live in fear....I live in hope.

 

[Aunty Jane]

@Aunty Jane there is someone on here calling for you Aunty Jane, who keeps spewing garbage out of his mouth about the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

We expect that...in fact if we weren’t copping flack from all sides, we might just think we are on the wrong track.
John 15:18-21...
“If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. 19 If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you. 20 Keep in mind the word I said to you: A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have observed my word, they will also observe yours. 21 But they will do all these things against you on account of my name, because they do not know the One who sent me.”

We have exposed Christendom as a fraud, a hopeless counterfeit that Jesus foretold would introduce a fake kind of Christianity that would capture people “while men were sleeping”. These “weeds” were going to flourish because satan has planted them in his world, and he has carefully cultivated them.

Matthew 5:11-12 tells us the attitude we must have when that happens....
“Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. 12 Rejoice and be overjoyed, since your reward is great in the heavens, for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you.”
It’s nothing new....water off a duck’s back.

I know what you are saying Aunty, and you know I love you with all my heart, but I have to do what is in my heart and pray God will understand, my dearest sister.

You know I love you too....but Jehovah has proven by his actions in the past that he will never excuse disobedience.
James 4:17...
“Therefore, if someone knows how to do what is right and yet does not do it, it is a sin for him.”

Sinners can only be forgiven if they repent of that sin. So, I’m afraid that God will not understand any justification to disobey him, no matter how sincere we may believe it is to hold on to a flawed belief.

I pray for all those who have been deceived into doing the devil’s work for him....most of them have no idea.....

 

[Brakelite]

I'm not from Michigan, but I think it's Governor Whitmer, that is trying to pass having a persons social media accounts checked for a history of 3 years before they will be allowed to buy a gun.
I'm sure it will end up in court. Shall not means Shall not.
Hugs

Mmm. God forbid that a gun permit be withheld from an insane psychopath with a penchant for wife abuse.

 

[Brakelite]

Accidentally or purposeful, it is highly significant that those two concepts of government, American republicanism and global tyranny should be lumped together in one space. It is worrying that Americans cannot see their own Christian ministers and pastors leading them into tyranny.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

People WAKE UP !
Our citizenship is NOT of this world, JESUS has gone to prepare a place for us where HE is the light and there is NO darkness !

If your hearts treasure is here on earth, then here you will stay. Before the FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD, BEFORE GOD SAID," LET THERE BE LIGHT" his plans were laid and would not be altered.

The prince of this world is running his domain under what authority the Lord allows him. Nothing, not war, not peace, not world unity, nor world religion will rectify the judgement of God to the wicked unbelievers.

This is happening ppl bc God said it will !
He sent the most valued treasure he had to earth to be born of a virgin ,to minister, to die, to be buried and resurrected to life so that NONE WOULD PERISH but by believing in him should have life everlasting and joy unspeakable.

Your choice......act like Goliath, and roar ,howl and defend, or be like David, who simply put his trust in a God WHO HAS AND WHO WILL !

 

[Naomanos]

Obama didn't think importing nonchristians would do any harm..

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I have looked and looked for where that quote is, even in the transcript of the speech in Cairo, and cannot find it where Obama says the sweetest sound he knows is the Muslim call to prayer.

Do you have an actual link to that quote?

 

[Ziggy]

Mmm. God forbid that a gun permit be withheld from an insane psychopath with a penchant for wife abuse.

I absolutely understand your point.
But you have to understand theirs.
Once they are allowed unlimited access to peoples histories, whether social media, phone calls, emails,
they will have the authority to track anyone regardless if they want to buy a gun or not.
And social media aint real life. And people post all kinds of things to make themselves look good or "bad" as in "cool"
And social media can be used as a weapom against other people. It happens all the time.

There are already red flag laws, there is already censoring on the internet, there are already background checks.
And none of these seem to work even though all authorities are already aware of them and do use them.
Kind of like they are just waiting for things to happen, so they can get more into people's business.

The first amendment is just about gone, the 4th amendment took a walk awhile ago.
The only thing holding this country in check is the 2nd. And if we give that up...
Game Over.

Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

I have looked and looked for where that quote is, even in the transcript of the speech in Cairo, and cannot find it where Obama says the sweetest sound he knows is the Muslim call to prayer.

Do you have an actual link to that quote?

Apparently someone from the NY Times was sitting in on an interview. And when writing the article, included excerpts from that interview.
I can't access the NY Times online, they have a paywall.
Just sharing..

Obama: Man of the World
The New York Times | March 06, 2007


”I was a little Jakarta street kid,” he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on my blog, Globalization and Human Rights - Nicholas Kristof Blog - The New York Times). He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics — and more likely to be aware of their nationalism — if he once studied the Koran with them.

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as ”one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”

Moreover, Mr. Obama’s own grandfather in Kenya was a Muslim. Mr. Obama never met his grandfather and says he isn’t sure if his grandfather’s two wives were simultaneous or consecutive, or even if he was Sunni or Shiite. (O.K., maybe Mr. Obama should just give up on Alabama.)

Who Says Obama Was a Muslim? Why, Himself of Course!

 

[Naomanos]

Apparently someone from the NY Times was sitting in on an interview. And when writing the article, included excerpts from that interview.
I can't access the NY Times online, they have a paywall.
Just sharing..

Obama: Man of the World
The New York Times | March 06, 2007


”I was a little Jakarta street kid,” he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on my blog, Globalization and Human Rights - Nicholas Kristof Blog - The New York Times). He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics — and more likely to be aware of their nationalism — if he once studied the Koran with them.

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as ”one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”

Moreover, Mr. Obama’s own grandfather in Kenya was a Muslim. Mr. Obama never met his grandfather and says he isn’t sure if his grandfather’s two wives were simultaneous or consecutive, or even if he was Sunni or Shiite. (O.K., maybe Mr. Obama should just give up on Alabama.)

Who Says Obama Was a Muslim? Why, Himself of Course!

Thank you!

 

[Brakelite]

I absolutely understand your point.
But you have to understand theirs.
Once they are allowed unlimited access to peoples histories, whether social media, phone calls, emails,
they will have the authority to track anyone regardless if they want to buy a gun or not.
And social media aint real life. And people post all kinds of things to make themselves look good or "bad" as in "cool"
And social media can be used as a weapom against other people. It happens all the time.

There are already red flag laws, there is already censoring on the internet, there are already background checks.
And none of these seem to work even though all authorities are already aware of them and do use them.
Kind of like they are just waiting for things to happen, so they can get more into people's business.

The first amendment is just about gone, the 4th amendment took a walk awhile ago.
The only thing holding this country in check is the 2nd. And if we give that up...
Game Over.

Hugs

I appreciate all that you've said, and understand, although imperfectly. I'm looking from about 10,000 miles away. Okay, I guessed and checked. 9803 miles. I'll take that lol.
Anyway. I get that the constitution and bill of rights is viewed as a protection against government overreach. Especially by Christians seeking to defend their way of life. And I grew up with guns. My grandfather was a champion marksman, as was my father, my brother, and myself to a limited extent. My grandfather and father were both gunsmiths. I would have followed had not my father died when I was 12. So I have some sympathy for wanting to retain the right to bear arms, but have very serious concerns regarding the motive. Was it not to defend the populace from internal hostile takeover from a government gone mad? I've got news for you. That horse left the stall and bolted decades ago. The government I am afraid to say doesn't need social media or any other constitutional method to track you. If they wanted to specifically follow you, track your finances, discover your friends, know your whereabouts 24 hours a day, they can already do that, and likely are doing that as we speak. Do you think our posting here on these topics goes unnoticed? Do you think when we speak of Jesus our Savior and how we believe the scriptures that He is soon coming again, that such 'extreme fundamentalism and conservative right wing Bible believing views' are not taken note of and despised by the coming NWO of the superficial nominal Christian churches of the world?
By the way, just fyi. Antichrist means "instead of"... "In place of"... As in Herod Antipas... Who ruled instead of his father.
So if the coming Antichrist stands in place of Christ, impersonating and talking His place in the minds and hearts of the world, the whole world wondering after him and saying, who can fight against him and make war with him, doesn't it follow then that his followers are Christians? As John said, in his day there were many antichrists, and they came out from among them. They came from within the church. So also is the Antichrist of Revelation and Daniel... Not an entity attacking the church from outside, but deceiving the church from within. Worth thinking about... And not entirely off topic.

 

[Brakelite]

O.K., maybe Mr. Obama should just give up on Alabama.)

And Texas, and Tennessee, and Arkansas, and Mississippi, and....

 

[Ziggy]

Anyway. I get that the constitution and bill of rights is viewed as a protection against government overreach.

I believe it is for enemies, foreign and domestic.
Whether it be our own government, that's been highjacked by communists, or an outside invader like China or Russia,
the people have the unalienable right, according to the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the the United States of America,
(two witnesses mind you) to have a well regulated malitia... there is a comma here, the people to bear arms.
SECOND AMENDMENT
Right to Bear Arms
Passed by Congress September 25, 1789. Ratified December 15, 1791. The first 10 amendments form the Bill of Rights

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Shall not, means shall not.

Good guess by the way

Hugs

 

[Dropship]

I have looked and looked for where that quote is, even in the transcript of the speech in Cairo, and cannot find it where Obama says the sweetest sound he knows is the Muslim call to prayer.
Do you have an actual link to that quote?

Here ya go,,
Barack Obama Quote: “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer.”

 

[Mantis]

Sometimes I wonder if the United States is mystery Babylon….

 

[JohnPaul]

Here ya go,,
Barack Obama Quote: “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer.”

Because Obamanation is a Muslim and not American born, so he never should’ve been President to begin with.

 

[Dropship]

SECOND AMENDMENT
Right to Bear Arms
Passed by Congress September 25, 1789. Ratified December 15, 1791. The first 10 amendments form the Bill of Rights
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

More-

 

[Dropship]

Because Obamanation is a Muslim and not American born, so he never should’ve been President to begin with.

Yes, the great American people must have been nuts to vote him into office foe two terms, how about it Norm?



Thankfully they later came to their senses and put Don into the White House, but then they had a relapse and put Biden in there..

 

[Ziggy]

Actually They stole the election. The majority of Americans did not vote for Biden.
Rigged machines supplied by Soros, unsupervised drop boxes supplied by Zuckerbucks, and people who were placed in positions to count the votes, all paid for and placed there by communists.

Trump Won!
It's the people that lost.
Hugs