Are you guys happy with the recent Iran agreement ending the war?

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Are you guys happy with the recent Iran agreement ending the Iran war?


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Luther7

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Technically Judaism cannot be Communist, Marxist or Socialist, it is categorically incorrect.

Isreal is a form of theocracy except they have Prime Ministers instead of King.
A theocracy is a form of government in which political authority is derived from a religious source, and the state is run according to religious principles or laws. In a theocracy, leaders are often members of the clergy or are regarded as divinely guided, and the legal system is typically based on religious law. The government may claim to rule by divine authority, and human laws are subordinate to religious mandates.

Categorically Isreal is a Parliamentary Democracy.

Following an election, the president nominates a member of the Knesset to become prime minister after asking party leaders whom they support for the position. The first candidate the president nominates has 28 days to form a viable government that can command a majority in the Knesset. He then presents a government platform and must receive a vote of confidence from the Knesset to take office. In practice, the prime minister is usually the leader of the largest party in the governing coalition.

Sometimes Christians misunderstand Isreal's tactics in war. Their tactics are modeled after the Old Testament.
Yahweh gave "The Promise Land" to the Israelites. No one on earth can say God gave us our land. The United States supported Israel during the 6 day war to take back Isreal.
Isreal tactics in war are modeled after the Old Testament. Kill all that breaths. Deuteronomy 20:16 and Numbers 31:17 The thinking being is that if you destroy a nation, you only have to fight them once.

This differs from the United States where we have tendency to win the war and rebuild our enemy's nation so at times we fight the same people over and over and over again. Which can be difficult with terrorist nations where their armies hide with families and launch missiles from school yards and hospitals.
Communism, Socialism, Marxism represent an ideology that patterns itself after the teachings in judaism. Governing the world would be considered a political ideology but yet it is taught in judaism ( and it's not a world in which non- jews would want to live). Having said that we are pretty much living in a jewish society already.
 

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I should have first said that it is impossible for jews to follow the OT legitimately, in a way which pleases God, because He ended the Old testament or covenant. Without a temple, they can't practice Old testament religion anyway.
So what they did was re- interpret and re- invent the religion, and in the process replace God's specific commands. It's the same thing the Pharisees did, which angered Jesus.

613 Mosaic Laws and no scripture put an end to the Old Covenant. The closest you will come is in Hebrews where it is described as fading away, based on they believed they were living in the last days and Christ could return at any moment.

The Jews did not re-invent the religion there were things that they could not physically do. Re-invent and re-interpret LOL Over 30,000 Protestant denominations, definitely Christianity as been re-interpreted by some of them. Calvinism, OSAS, Universalism, Jehovah's Witnesses.....

So my original point was this: Most people are under the impression that they are following God's commandments based solely on the Old testament ( minus the temple activities, of course).
But their newfound religion ( after the Cross) holds the talmud and the Zohar
as their main authoritative books which interpret the Old testament from an anti- Christ perspective. They are NOT trusting in the God of the Bible at all for their inspiration.

As for as applying Christianity the Old Testament has nothing to offer.

Now, if you are directing that statement concerning jew hatred at me, let me be perfectly clear ( as I have said many times before).....
God commands us to hate no one. But we certainly can hate the evil deeds that proceed from them.
That's where I stand. And hopefully this confession doesn't fall on deaf ears.

An excuse to hate? Did Yeshua say He hated the Jews......or even the Romans?

The problem ( and I don't blame them) with a lot of us who see them for who they are is that they want to take immediate action in some physical fashion. Bad idea. What we should be doing is physically getting out there and warning the world of the synagogue of Satan, and offering the only solution: the free gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ the Lord. Only He can and will stop them and the devil.

If you are talking about the war on terrorism......Iran etc.... Pacifism is an idealistic concept......I do not blame people for believing in it, I blame them for living behind people that are willing to fight for freedom. They should live in a country that has no army and will to accept what the wolves of the world will do to them.
 

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I am not sure of that. It seems Iran had been breaching the nuclear nonproliferation agreements and in June 2025, after the UN nuclear watchdog declared Iran in violation and the US engaging in negociations with Iran that failed. Then the United States bombed Iran’s major nuclear facilities.

It was an independent watchdog that had oficially declared Iran in breach. The US then acted on that breach. People can disagree with the method of dealing with that breach. But the next step was brought on by by Iran breaching the agreement.

Thats correct. Not the specific programs to produce the final product and weapon. But much of the surrounding infrastructure and higher levels of refinement well beyond energy requirements. Which raises a red flag. Hense we need to see for ourselves. But they won't let us.

As mentioned above it seems the independent UN watchdog breached Iran for not complying and then after negociations between US and others broke down Isreal and the US took action. All Iran had to do was agree to the conditions I guess.

I am not sure when this was. But at first Iran was not a signatory and then ratified this in 2003. It has from the beginning tried to side step compliance and its responsibility to build toward a nuclear weapon. Everyone knows that is their aim. They have stated this themselves.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) subsequently discovered that Iran was violating its basic obligations in the early 2000s by secretly building undeclared facilities, such as the Natanz enrichment plant and the Arak heavy water reactor, without prior notification. [1, 2]

I would not trust one thing Iran says. They admit that lying is part of the way in which they can decieve the enermy and trick them into submission and defeat. I think people forget that this is not another democratically elected government. This is a radical theocratic regime who want to impose their religion on everyone.

Which coincidently happens to be one of the only free democracies in the middle east.

Under international law, 191 nations are legally bound to never acquire nuclear weapons. Its not something new and we have always seen certain nations as a threat to have nuclear weapon capabilities.

They are also the most attacked people in the history of humankind. If we are speaking about rights to be armed and defend itself then Isreal has the best defense to do so of all nations. Not that I agree that being armed is the answer to world peace. Its more about peace by the gun that true peace in Christ.

Islam also says its a religion of peace. Once again I do not believe one thing they say.

Yes a doomsday scenario brought about by an evil actor towards Isreal.

Or a realistic way they see in defending themselves. But I think this has been the case for all nuclear nations. As mentioned there were only a certain nations deemed able to have nuclear weapons due to the threat level they imposed on the rest of the world.

The difference is is that the US and its allies have been seen as the ones who head the new world from WW2. They overseen the UN Human Rights charter and were involved in most of the world bodies to ensure peace and order. Rightfully so as other nations were in chaos or inflicting inhumane treatments that needed to be stopped.

To equate the US and Isreals democratic values and freedoms with a regime that is inflicting human rights abuses on their own people is unreal and unfair. There is good reason why we trust certain people, world bodies and nations over others.

Iran is already a big threat and has been for a long time. They are behind all the terror groups I mentioned earlier. They all have the same radical ideology. They were only 20 odd years ago attacking the west and making our lives hell. Covid came along and we got better at security.

But they have been focusing on Isreal again. Hamas is the latest example. This is the same ideology as 9/11 and other terror attacks. They trace right back to Iran and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei before his death.
The Iranian Defense
Iran’s government argues it has not violated the core tenets of the NPT. Their legal defense rests on the premise that Article IV of the NPT guarantees nations an "inalienable right" to develop nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, which they interpret to include uranium enrichment. They view their reductions in IAEA cooperation as a legal retaliation against Western nations failing to uphold their economic commitments under the JCPOA. Amid ongoing sanctions and geopolitical pressure, the Iranian parliament has routinely drafted legislation threatening to withdraw from the NPT entirely.

As soon as Trump tore up the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), commonly known as the Iran Nuclear Deal, Iran is justified to do what it needs to do. You see, Iran should have been left alone. They were not a threat to the sovereignty of the US. They never possessed a nuclear weapon.

And I have no problem with that if they did, because then Israel would back off from trying to destroy them so they can get their " greater Israel" land grab going. THAT'S ALL THAT THIS IS ABOUT. No one messes with a country that has nukes. That's the point. The Goyim have been brainwashed by the jewish run media for the last 40 years that they would be a threat to humanity if they had one. Well what about Pakistan? North Korea? And yes, even Israel? Who determines when one of those countries goes off the deep end? It's a big Psy-op so we can be continually misinformed and fearful of what happens to be a beautiful country with a very rich history, full of citizens like ours....productive, pro family, and very concerned of the two Satans that continually provoke them.

LET'S JUST LEAVE THEM ALONE!
 

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LET'S JUST LEAVE THEM ALONE!

Yes, lets leave Iran alone so they can build nukes and long range missiles and take out some US cities.

With any luck maybe they'll just hit cities run by liberals in blue states.

This might work out really well!


They were not a threat to the sovereignty of the US. They never possessed a nuclear weapon.

What part of them working to build one did you not understand???


Trump tore up the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), commonly known as the Iran Nuclear Deal

He tore it up because it allowed Iran to be able to build nukes after a few years and they got billions of US taxpayer money.

Have you decide when you will be converting to islam?

I mean you're here advocating for islam so have you been fitted for an islamic dress and turbine yet?
 

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The Iranian Defense
Iran’s government argues it has not violated the core tenets of the NPT. Their legal defense rests on the premise that Article IV of the NPT guarantees nations an "inalienable right" to develop nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, which they interpret to include uranium enrichment. They view their reductions in IAEA cooperation as a legal retaliation against Western nations failing to uphold their economic commitments under the JCPOA. Amid ongoing sanctions and geopolitical pressure, the Iranian parliament has routinely drafted legislation threatening to withdraw from the NPT entirely.

As soon as Trump tore up the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), commonly known as the Iran Nuclear Deal, Iran is justified to do what it needs to do. You see, Iran should have been left alone. They were not a threat to the sovereignty of the US. They never possessed a nuclear weapon.

And I have no problem with that if they did, because then Israel would back off from trying to destroy them so they can get their " greater Israel" land grab going. THAT'S ALL THAT THIS IS ABOUT. No one messes with a country that has nukes. That's the point. The Goyim have been brainwashed by the jewish run media for the last 40 years that they would be a threat to humanity if they had one. Well what about Pakistan? North Korea? And yes, even Israel? Who determines when one of those countries goes off the deep end? It's a big Psy-op so we can be continually misinformed and fearful of what happens to be a beautiful country with a very rich history, full of citizens like ours....productive, pro family, and very concerned of the two Satans that continually provoke them.

LET'S JUST LEAVE THEM ALONE!

LET'S JUST LEAVE THEM ALONE! Crazy! Iran has been attacking us for 47 years......And it is not a military attack, it is terrorism. Attacking innocent men, women, and children. Did God brainwash the Jews? I support Trump and Isreal.
 

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Do you get to vote on the morality of Christianity? Mixing catagories.
All of what I mentioned comes from the same anti- Christ spirit, whether I " categorize" properly in your estimation or not. I recommend that you , and many others here take a crash course in their religion. See what they REALLY think about us.

And then do a crash course on the development of " dispensationalism", which set forth this highly unbiblical teaching of a future restoration of these people who call themselves " jews".

Many many people are waking up to this. It seems like the hardest people to reach are "christians"
 

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All of what I mentioned comes from the same anti- Christ spirit, whether I " categorize" properly in your estimation or not. I recommend that you , and many others here take a crash course in their religion.

And then do a crash course on the development of " dispensationalism", which set forth this highly unbiblical teaching of a future restoration of these people who call themselves " jews".


And then do a crash course on the development of " dispensationalism", which set forth this highly unbiblical teaching of a future restoration of these people who call themselves " jews".
Life long formal college education in five countries in theology and Christian history. So yes I know. I grew up in University City and Clayton Missouri. Had many Jewish friends. Yes I know the Jews.
LOL Today there are a few Jewish sects like Christianity with over 30,000 denominations.
 

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I recommend that you , and many others here take a crash course in their religion. See what they REALLY think about us.

Scripture reference please showing where the Lord instructs believers to go study false religions and worry about what they think of Christians


And then do a crash course on the development of " dispensationalism", which set forth this highly unbiblical teaching of a future restoration of these people who call themselves " jews".

And just like your boy luther, you follow his foot steps joyfully engaging in antisemitism (being a racist Jew hater)

When Adolph Hitler was a young man he was very impressed with Martin Luther and read all of his writings... which is where he learned that Martin Luther had called for all Jews to be expelled and removed from Germany and they would keep all all their wealth.

This is where Adolph Hitler learned hatred from the Jews and once in power he fulfilled the desire of Luther and not only kicked them out but really pleased luther by murdering as many of therm as he possibly could.

Today, ol Adolph is burning in hell right there with luther right where they both belong.
Justice has been served by the :Lord Jesus with these two nutjobs! thumbsup2.gif
 

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613 Mosaic Laws and no scripture put an end to the Old Covenant. The closest you will come is in Hebrews where it is described as fading away, based on they believed they were living in the last days and Christ could return at any moment.

The Jews did not re-invent the religion there were things that they could not physically do. Re-invent and re-interpret LOL Over 30,000 Protestant denominations, definitely Christianity as been re-interpreted by some of them. Calvinism, OSAS, Universalism, Jehovah's Witnesses.....



As for as applying Christianity the Old Testament has nothing to offer.



An excuse to hate? Did Yeshua say He hated the Jews......or even the Romans?



If you are talking about the war on terrorism......Iran etc.... Pacifism is an idealistic concept......I do not blame people for believing in it, I blame them for living behind people that are willing to fight for freedom. They should live in a country that has no army and will to accept what the wolves of the world will do to them.
You said: " An excuse to hate? Did Yeshua say He hated the Jews......or even the Romans?"

1) the name is JESUS.
2) JESUS was angry with what the jewish leaders were teaching. He said that they were of their father the devil.
3):
According to data from the United Nations and human rights monitoring organizations, more than 21,000 Palestinian children have been killed by Israeli military forces in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank over the last five years.
The overwhelming majority of these fatalities occurred during the intense military operations following the October 7, 2023 escalation.

1. Breakdown by Region and Timeframe
  • The Gaza Strip (Post-October 2023): According to the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry, over 20,000 children have been killed in Gaza by the Israeli military since October 7, 2023. This figure includes deaths from ongoing airstrikes, shelling, and direct combat operations. UN agencies note that thousands more are missing and presumed dead under the rubble.
" Thousands more are missing"...........
..........." god's chosen people"
 

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The overwhelming majority of these fatalities occurred during the intense military operations following the October 7, 2023 escalation

Well, there are consequences to attacking innocent Israeli citizens as the moslems are finding out.

The fact of the matter is, if the descendants of Ismael would just leave the descendants of Abraham alone, there would be peace in the middle east. For centuries the descendants of Ismael have refused to leave Israel alone so they deserve what they are getting. In the end they will spend eternity being tormented in the fires of hell.

Does it offend you that the Lord in the old testament commended entire nations to be destroyed?
God ordered every man, woman, and child be put to death. Jesus is God's Word so The Word of God implemented the will of the Father and whacked some folks!

Why? Because if those people were allowed to continue living they would eventually destroy the Israelites, so God was acting and moving in self defense in those times where he commanded the Israelites to kill 'em all.

Does 2 Thessalonians 1:7,8 offend you speaking of Jesus returning to the earth with wrath taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ???

2 Thessalonians 1:7,8
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ
 

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the name is JESUS.

LOL No one knows where the word Jesus came from, it just appeared in the 17th century.
There are no J's in the Bible. All the J's in the Bible are actually Y's.
The letter J came out in the 15th century and later became popular with Shakespeare which is the Language used in the KJV.

According to data from the United Nations and human rights monitoring organizations, more than 21,000 Palestinian children have been killed by Israeli military forces in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank over the last five years.
The overwhelming majority of these fatalities occurred during the intense military operations following the October 7, 2023 escalation.

The United Nations......what joke. I am sure there have children killed. Children killed in war but there is a difference in collateral damage and targeting children. And why are you not interested in the number of children killed by Iran and it's proxies.
 

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LOL No one knows where the word Jesus came from, it just appeared in the 17th century.

The Greek word for Jesus is Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous).
This name is derived from the Hebrew name Yeshua.

Jesus (/ ˈdʒiːzəs /) is a masculine given name derived from Iēsous (Ἰησοῦς; Iesus in Classical Latin), the Ancient Greek form of the Hebrew name Yeshua (ישוע). As its roots lie in the name Y'shua in Aramaic and Yeshua in Hebrew, it is related to another biblical name, Joshua.

You should know this by now.
But you can keep prayer to FRED is you must crazy3.gif
 

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The Greek word for Jesus is Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous).
This name is derived from the Hebrew name Yeshua.

People think that. It is not a name it is the Greek word for healer.
Miriam, Yeshua's mother would not give her Son a Greek word for a name.
Yeshua's name was a common and popular name......no one in history is named Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous).
Yeshua or Yehoshua is like Ed or Edward, meaning Yahweh saves or Yahweh is salvation. But the Greek has no word for Yahweh. So Ἰησοῦς cannot contain the meaning Yahweh.
College level information, a lot of the source material is corrupted because people want to think Yeshua's name is Jesus.
But the fact is no historical appearance of the word Jesus before the 17th century. Even the King James Version used the word Iēsous in the 16th century until around the time of Shakespeare when the letter J was becoming popular and the word Jesus appeared almost out of thin air. People have speculated where it came from but I do not believe it....
If you try to try to translate Jesus back into the Kione Greek, there is no word equivalent, closest words are Zeus or Hey horse.
Again, no J's in the Bible because the letter or sound did not exist.....ie Yob....Yoshua.....Yacob.....etc.
Beyond that LOL we can spell and pronounce His name in English.....why come up with Ted or Bob or Jesus.
 
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There some parts of Israel that fell, just like the Priests and Pharisees and Sadducees who kept the Temple in Jerusalem.
Not all Israel are Israel.
Some are satanic operatives just like in Big Satan in America.
That's what they call us Big Satan and Israel is little Satan.
And in some respects that wasn't too far from the truth.
Our Government strayed a long time ago, and Israel has been infested with foreign nations running their country.

All Nations Rise and Fall, and God does what he needs to do to get them back on track.
If he had not intervened at this time, the world would be lost.
It's not over. That Light still shines. And we won't let that candle go out.
It was close.

And just like Jesus told his disciples to go out and cast out demons,
that's what's happening on a National level.
We are casting out the communists, the socialists, the Liberal left radical loonies, illegal aliens.
All of them.
It may not sound Biblical, but it really is.

Hugs
Zech 14 clearly implies God is going to clean His House of Israel. Blood will flow.

He's also going to clean His house of Christianity. Blood will flow! OCEANS of blood!

Revelation 20:4 Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
 

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Zech 14 clearly implies God is going to clean His House of Israel. Blood will flow.

He's also going to clean His house of Christianity. Blood will flow! OCEANS of blood!

Revelation 20:4 Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
It does seem like we are heading towards interesting times
that's for sure.
 

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I'm listening to a hearing about the Abrahamic Accords.
And I'm having a hard time understanding motives.
Seriously.
it feels like there is a glitch in the matrix.

They are deciding the fate of Israel and the middle east.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz of all people.
I'm really surprised they aired this on YT.
Seems like things you talk about out of the public eye.


thoughts?
 

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It will be challenging that's for sure.

'Churches' are filled with those who don't have a clue of the bloodbath dead ahead! Satan has been busy.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness,
 
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