Australia takes another step to forced vaccinations

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Cristo Rei

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And Bosses should be able to require their employees to get vaccinated...

No one wants covid in their workplace.

Its immoral, unlawful, unethical and criminal. Not that it bothers u at all
 

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Selling a product that you know will harm some people is immoral... Do u even know what morality is any more or u just don't care?

So are you suggesting that there should be no vaccinations at all of any sort?
 

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So are you suggesting that there should be no vaccinations at all of any sort?

I said, selling something that will knowingly cause harm to some people (deaths, disabilities) is immoral.
Especially when such is kept behind a veil of secrecy along with everything else, like the ingredients.
And especially when they don't even know if it works
And especially given the fact that the turn away from vax victims without any responsibility

That is 100% immoral. U can't refute it.
What do u think an immoral act is???

There is a better explanation on post #259 of this thread
I've just had my first dose of Covid vaccine!
 
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I said, selling something that will knowingly cause harm to some people (deaths, disabilities) is immoral.
Especially when such is kept behind a veil of secrecy along with everything else, like the ingredients.
And especially when they don't even know if it works
And especially given the fact that the turn away from vax victims without any responsibility

That is 100% immoral. U can't refute it.
What do u think an immoral act is???

There is a better explanation on post #259 of this thread
I've just had my first dose of Covid vaccine!

Here is what Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy has to say.

Dr Brendan Murphy talks to Leigh Sales
 

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And Bosses should be able to require their employees to get vaccinated...

No one wants covid in their workplace.


Really?

It never previously bothered them that people turned up to work coughing and spluttering germs with Flu or colds or ILIs any of which could kill a vulnerable person. It's total hypocrisy.

Up to 650,000 people die of Flu and related complications every year. Every year !

But businesses never gave a toss. Never told their employees to go home if they were coughing germs everywhere. They were happy for it to spread around just so long as their employees stayed at work and were productive. They even actively disincentivised employees from doing the right, moral thing, staying at home by giving them black marks on their employee record.

Now Covid has come along we're supposed to think they've all suddenly gained a conscious?????!!

Pullleeeaaasssseeeee do me a favour

All they are bothered about is their financial liability. They're **** scared they could get sued if cases of Covid occur on their premises and they haven't taken all the required precautions. So like obedient sheep they are simply playing along with the state mantra , nothing more.

It's moronic to require vaccination because anyone who is worried can go and get vaccinated. So the un-vaccinated can't possibly be any threat to them.

There's one exception and one only which is immuno-compromised people who can't get vaccines. Those people do need to be protected, kept segregated from everyone else because they could catch anything at all, colds, ILIs, Flu, Covid. But the requirement there is to keep such people away from others, not to insist on vaccination for everyone else which is utterly puerile.
 

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Really?

It never previously bothered them that people turned up to work coughing and spluttering germs with Flu or colds or ILIs any of which could kill a vulnerable person. It's total hypocrisy.

Up to 650,000 people die of Flu and related complications every year. Every year !

But businesses never gave a toss. Never told their employees to go home if they were coughing germs everywhere. They were happy for it to spread around just so long as their employees stayed at work and were productive. They even actively disincentivised employees from doing the right, moral thing, staying at home by giving them black marks on their employee record.

Now Covid has come along we're supposed to think they've all suddenly gained a conscious?????!!

Pullleeeaaasssseeeee do me a favour

All they are bothered about is their financial liability. They're **** scared they could get sued if cases of Covid occur on their premises and they haven't taken all the required precautions. So like obedient sheep they are simply playing along with the state mantra , nothing more.

It's moronic to require vaccination because anyone who is worried can go and get vaccinated. So the un-vaccinated can't possibly be any threat to them.

There's one exception and one only which is immuno-compromised people who can't get vaccines. Those people do need to be protected, kept segregated from everyone else because they could catch anything at all, colds, ILIs, Flu, Covid. But the requirement there is to keep such people away from others, not to insist on vaccination for everyone else which is utterly puerile.

Rejecting someone on the basis of their health decisions is discrimination which is why they can't legislate the vax...
So instead they coerce these businesses to make sure everyone is vaxed for them to able to do business in that state...

The thing is that such people have become cold and heartless. They have lost their moral compass.
There are things happening that are so abhorrent it makes me cry, yet such people will remain unmoved by it.
They will support the forcing of vaccines, they will support the incarceration of people who want to exercise their right not to vaccinate
 

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A desperate attempt to change the topic

The fact is that you are supporting the actions of these governments...
Actions that are unethical, criminal, immoral and unlawful...

Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy said

"There's no evidence at all that any of the vaccines are dangerous or would kill you. They're all very, very carefully tested by our TGA, which is one of the best regulatory authorities in the world."

So how is it immoral? They have thoroughly tested and investigated these vaccines. And these vaccines aren't entirely what I would call "forced".
 

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Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy said

"There's no evidence at all that any of the vaccines are dangerous or would kill you. They're all very, very carefully tested by our TGA, which is one of the best regulatory authorities in the world."

So how is it immoral? They have thoroughly tested and investigated these vaccines. And these vaccines aren't entirely what I would call "forced".

Don't be foolish Josh. Everyone knows that some people will receive side effects...
The vaccine companies know and the health administrations know...
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Yet we have these flapping heads on TV trying to tell us its safe and effective... A blatant lie and an immoral action that is abominable

If it was safe then why do u suppose they have been granted indemnity?

And again... What is an immoral action???
 

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Don't be foolish Josh. Everyone knows that some people will receive side effects...
The vaccine companies know and the health administrations know...
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Yet we have these flapping heads on TV trying to tell us its safe and effective... A blatant lie and an immoral action that is abominable

If it was safe then why do u suppose they have been granted indemnity?

And again... What is an immoral action???

The information you provided here is just a draft and is probably outdated.
 

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I got my hands on several curriculums for schools across Victoria, mostly for years 9 and 10.
That long list of questions I had for you have already been answered so I don't have to go through with the interrogation which would of been uncomfortable to say the least...

Your generation has been indoctrinated by Marxism and this is another classic example. The concept of morality is not understood by ur generation
 
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Anyone that knows some history would see that civilizations need a religion, without it, they collapse. The fall of society requires many factors but I believe the single most important one is morals, in particular family morals... See how the other major religions all have a similar view on sexuality and family, a strict view. Without it, we see divorces for petty reasons, promiscuity, abortion, homosexuality, transgerism, single-parent kids and such.

Coming back to God I spent a lot of time on atheist forums, challenging their views.
And one of the subjects that really drove me towards God was morality, so I have an idea of how atheists think about morality...
To be honest, some of them have an excellent understanding of morality. So much so that I like to use a definition that I got from one of them.

It defines an immoral act... An immoral act is one that causes harm/damage and is done consciously... Its pretty good and covers almost every situation but what about societal morals i would ask them. Ones like homosexuality. To them, there is no harm done so its ok... So that means bestiality is fine as well, they do their thing along without harming anyone... Oh they would start steaming or meltdown at that point... "NO ITS NOT THE SAME".

So I asked how they would decide what is moral and what isn't... They said a vote... So then in this society homosexuality is accepted whereas in past societies it was deemed immoral... Morals are like universal truths, they don't change according to peoples opinions, they remain as truths...

In order to sustain a society, each person must have at least one child, 2 for every couple. That doesn't happen when there is all this sexual immorality and society deteriorates.
All people are religious regardless even if they claim to be an atheist.
Atheist are more religious than most people in general, as they will mainly come down to what is Political Correctness gods that they rant on with idolising such nonsense like lunatics, huffing and puffing, You must this and that or it will offend their gods that they idolise. their Sook god is a big one. oh you are offending me, don't offend me ! it's a big thing to them Satanist, I remember Obama ranting to some country Don't offend us, don't offend us ! or else the malice god will come out. that's what they are all about, they demand not want to be offended. they must be accepted, because their god is a equality god. all are equal the same regardless ?
From the view point of a low life filthy grub such may give the ego a high buzz. They are living under strong delusions that cloud their minds.
You see kids nowadays that have been spoilt rotten, mummy will not deal with the child, the schools will not as well, so the brat just goes about running loose off the rails with no respect to anyone as it's all about them ? give them a task, oh your coming the heavy man ! oh can't handle reality, well they take drugs. retreat into a fantasy world ! the problem is everyone but themselves.

Whenever you talk to an Atheist you come across the same type of drongo bigot mentality, a Sook or a deranged low life Moron who is full of malice as that's their power base, as short sighted shallow narrow minded sook. There legacy is something future generations will not be thankful for, they bag our forefathers who built Nations and the put a spin on all such that is all one sided and only totally full of malice, they claim, no demand that they are the future that all must follow. such are full of knowledge but lacking in common sense. they could not hold a candle to our forefathers, as such as they could not work a days hard labour.

When a Jewish atheist mate died I went to a atheist forum to deal with them, but found out quickly that they are not worth bothering with because they just dismiss everything and anything, just like my mate did in total ignorance, so with another atheist mate I found out not to bother with such people because you are wasting your time, as they have no interest at all truly, it's the casting pearls before swine's Bible story. they only come at you from a stupid angle that they are delusional about, it's like trying to reason with a one year old in some way. so everything that you say is taken out of context and used as malice against you. for one the subject about Gay's, such is coming from a totally delusional point of view on the subject of true Christian point of view. not to mention you see such as that lot of fools supporting Islam :rolleyes: talk about blighted. the blind leading the blind.
 
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On the point about church buildings and going to Church, well one can join the Freemasons and get that sort of religious drive and such is all mans works in the main.

In our history if we never had church buildings and the mob going along, we would of never got anywhere much at all, not to mention the freemasons were great as well in their works.

But where I am coming from is all about Christ Jesus as the foundation, not works of man as the driving force of true progress as a foundation for all. sadly many do not become truly born again, because that is not what the full attention was about sadly and that's why the majority has abandoned the Churches in droves, but go and look at the Socialist Politically Correct, they are thriving with converts driven with a huge drive, that even the churches have adopted.

We the people have no hope in our own works because such is blighted, history is littered with the curse of such madness.
There is only one who Saves and that is Jesus Christ, he is the light for the whole world, outside of him there is only darkness.
Satan is the shining one, a Kike a whitewashed tomb, something that is desirable to look towards due to original Sin, but when one touches the Kike it's only then that one realises that it's full of dead mans bones and the stench of death abounds.

If one is not truly born again, Then one is under the power of Sin, under delusions because of the stain of original Sin, such a one does not truly know who the Lord Jesus 100% I was raised as a Christian went to bible study and all, but it was not until I was truly born again that I knew Jesus was the Christ 100%. I had faith in Jesus more than most for a fact but I did not know him so to speak, so I did not have the faith that could move mountains, because I was looking to man, like the Jews of OT did.
Jesus Christ will do the work, you just abide in him and he in you and bingo his Will will be done. The works of man can not cut it at all, as such is a poor blighted curse, not to mention an abomination.
 
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The fact is that guys like yourselves are supporting the immoral and criminal actions of pharma and governments.
Don't u guys have morals anymore?
 
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So true except i don't think they're all idiots...
This generation for example doesn't know any better.
Some people have covid affiliations while others are suffering from a serious mental condition
 

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And Bosses should be able to require their employees to get vaccinated...

No one wants covid in their workplace.
At the moment the vaccine has not been proved to prevent you catching it or passing it on. They have announced that the Oxford one is 67% able to prevent it being passed on. So getting a vaccine will not protect the workplace, so making it mandatory just doesn’t make sense within the workplace. I have had the Oxford one but I am not in favour of anyone being forced to have any of the vaccines. If and only if it was proved 100% that you could not pass it on would it make sense. I have had this view with the flu vaccine , and that kills each year, yet that has never been made mandatory in the U.K.
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