last week birds were reported dying this week seems its fish this is about the fouth story in the last few days about dead/dying fish from Russia to AustrailaBy Associated PressQUINCY, Mass. -- Eight dolphins were discovered early Sunday morning on a beach in Quincy in what scientists are calling an extremely rare mass stranding in Boston Harbor. The were a couple other dolphins that were found in NY.
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5 more dead dolphins of Long Island, Cape Cod reports number of dead/trapped dolphins has tripled this year to 46.
ANOTHER 200 dead birds have been found in WA, taking the total number to die in mysterious circumstances in the state to 4000.
When I lived in Cape Cod, mass fish beachings (pilot whales and dolphins) occured quite often. I couldnt tell you if there are more now or not.As for the birds, Avian Flu is around, perhaps its more concentrated this year.
You are right about Cape Cod BC they do have more of this the news report stated that this does happen there but It is triple the normal amount.As far as the Birds they have ruled out everything and have no idea why this is happing see my other post about the birds this is happening world wide by the thousands and they can't figure out why.
ok about the bird thing. when i worked for an army base we had to go out to some cabins and clean them ( i was a housekeeper), for two weeks straight we would find the back decks of two cabins that were covered in dead birds. and each time we had to call out the environment specialists to investigate plus the d.n.r had to come out. at the time there was a thing called dead bird diease going on ( like mad cow diease, but with birds).. that's all we could figure out. well the d.n.r came back later and told us that some of the birds had it and some didn't. we all wondered what had happened to the birds that didn't have dead bird diease. but i left ( i worked temp. and my time was done there), so i never found out what had happened. i don't know if that's what the case is with all of these birds. by the way ( due to me working 10pm to 5am, i don't watch tv much to hear the news, so where are you seeing this or hearing this from. i'd like to keep up on this when i'm off work and have time to watch tv or read the paper? about the fish, since i've not been watching t.v. or reading the paper, i don't know what's going on to say anything. i just replied to the bird thing, cause of all the dead birds i saw. jessica
thats very interesting jessi I dont know if you saw my post from last week if not here is the linkhttp://www.christianityboard.com/australia...irds-t1827.html
More Birds?????????????????????????DENVER - Almost 200 dead ducks have been found in a chlorine basin at a wastewater treatment facility. An engineer first noticed several distressed ducks on site January 2nd, and then a week later, the staff discovered a pattern; hundreds of ducks dead in the water. The Division of Wildlife and U.S. Fish and Wildlife are investigating, as lab tests are being performed in Fort Collins to find a cause to the problem. For the past 20 years, hundreds of ducks flock to the warm water at this plant, but this is the first time the staff has noticed such an ominous scene. “It's not unusual at all to have ducks here. The ducks come every winter, but we just don't see ducks die,” said Steve Frank, spokesperson for Metro Wastewater Reclamation District. Maintenance workers at the plant have a sound gun firing off blank shots each half hour to keep the ducks away from the water, until the root of the problem is confirmed. Workers are also skimming the water to find any remaining ducks. Several of the surviving birds sit in cages and towels, with their feathers no longer waterproof, possibly suffering from hypothermia. The plant increased the amount of chlorine in the water in December, but the staff says there’s no connection. “When we increased the chlorine dosage we didn't notice any additional ducks, dead or alive, when we decreased it, we didn't notice any change either,” said Frank. The staff plans to put a net over the basin to keep birds out of the water. Lab results are expected within the next few weeks. (Copyright KUSA*TV, All Rights Re
More dead birds this is only about 70 mi. from my house.......................................................................................Event summary GLIDE Number BH-20070120-9484-USA Event type Biological Hazard Date / time [UTC] 20/01/2007 - 05:13:12 (Military Time, UTC) Country USA Area - County / State California City San Andreas Cause of event Unknow Log date 20/01/2007 - 05:13:12 (Military Time, UTC) Damage level Moderate Time left - Latitude: N 38° 11.204 Longitude: W 120° 40.122 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- DESCRIPTION Sheep Ranch resident Jackie Machado seemed to be living in a real-life horror film situation. Several dead pigeons started appearing on her property last week with no apparent cause. "When you find one or two birds, you think that it’s no big deal and that a cat probably got it,” Machado said. “But when you find 20, you start to worry." Machado grew concerned when new bodies started popping up daily. Machado said county departments gave her the runaround as she tried to figure things out for her family’s safety. "We don’t know if we’re exposing our family to something or what,” she said. “It’s been a bad week." The California Department of Fish and Game eventually took up the case and discovered evidence of a bird-specific disease - avian trichomoniasis. "It’s not transmissible to humans,” said Fish and Game veterinarian Pam Swift, based in Rancho Cordova. “Put on gloves, pick up the dead birds and dispose of them." Swift said the disease was most likely transferred among flocks of migrating pigeons through food and water sources. It can be identified by “cheesy ulcers and sores” on the bird’s beak. While the finding is preliminary, Swift said similar reports have surfaced in El Dorado and Placer counties as well. Specimens would be sent to a lab in Davis for further testing, she said. Although the response was consoling, Machado recalled days of confusion and frustration with little answers from county officials. “I called a lot of agencies and the attitude I got was, "I don’t know," Machado said. Machado contacted county Animal Services, the county’s farm advisor, the Public Health Department and even the state’s West Nile Virus hotline. All gave her a collective shrug. A representative from Animal Services said dead pigeons are “not on our radar,” and they deal more with domestic animals and cattle. Public Health Officer Dean Kelaita was aware of Machado’s issue, but said it didn’t warrant action from his department, which usually handles West Nile cases. “There aren’t very many diseases that will affect both birds and potentially humans,” he said."In this case, there wasn’t a lot of evidence that made us concerned over a potential to hurt humans as well.” It wasn’t the right time of year for West Nile, and other animal-to-human diseases, like rabies, are tracked through squirrels and other rodents, he said. Machado was eventually referred to a state department representative who requested she store a few dead pigeons in her refrigerator so they could be picked up. She and her husband also cut open a pigeon to look for signs of poison, per the advice of county officials. Flocks of pigeons and other birds frequently reside around Machado’s five-acre property in Sheep Ranch. Machado said she stopped walking her dogs out of fear of infecting them. According to Swift, there have not been reports of cross-contamination between birds and other domestic animals. Swift advised residents who find several dead pigeons with beak sores to dispose of them immediately and to also contact the West Nile Virus hotline at 1-877-968-2473 to make a report. While Machado was frustrated with the county’s response, she was now more at ease and could let her dogs loose on her property again
An alarming series of reports from the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences Influenza Research Institute are reporting today that millions of avian species have succumbed, while in flight, to a rapidly evolving virus linked to the deadly H5N1 Bird Flu variant. Doctor Scientist Oleg Kiselyov, the head of the Influenza Research Institute, states in these reports that a nematode parasite belonging to the ‘Superfamily Subuluroidea’ has now become a carrier of a ‘mutated’ H5N1 Bird Flu Virus with ‘sub strains’ never seen before. More horrifically are that these reports state that this mutated H5N1 Bird Flu virus has now ‘jumped’ the ‘species barrier’ and is now infecting both animals and insects, and which has also been confirmed by Indonesian scientists, and as we can read as reported by the Malaysian National News Service in their report titled "Indonesian Scientist Warns Of Bird Flu In Flies", and which says:"In the wake of the increasing number of bird flu cases in Indonesia, an Indonesian scientist has warned the government not to place too much of the blame for bird flu on poultry as other animals could also carry the virus. Veterinary pathologist Wasito of Yogyakarta's Gajah Mada University's veterinary medicine said that other animals such as cats, dogs and even flies could also carry the H5N1 virus. "A study we are conducting here, for example, has convincingly found that it is possible for flies to spread the bird flu virus," he was quoted as saying by the Jakarta Post daily in Yogyakarta yesterday."Doctor Scientist Kiselyov further states that Western scientists are rejecting Russia’s research and are instead reporting to their citizens ‘other causes’ to explain the growing number of mass bird deaths in mid-flight, including Sri Lanka, and which has become yet another of the World’s Nations to report birds falling from sky dead.Australia has likewise refused this research for the mass bird deaths in their country, preferring instead to blame the sudden deaths of thousands of birds in mid-flight on a ‘mystery toxin’. The United States, also, continues to keep the dire situation facing our World’s avian species from this virus from their citizens, even as more reports of mass bird deaths continue to rise in their country, including the latest report from their Western Regions which are reporting this week on the deaths of hundreds of ducks.So virulent is this new mutated strain of the H5N1 Bird Flu virus that in the past two weeks outbreaks have been reported in China, Egypt, Indonesia, Japan, Nigeria, Hungary, South Korea, Thailand and Vietnam, causing the United Nations to issue an alert. More troubling than those Nations reporting outbreaks these past two weeks are those that have not, and as expressed by worried authorities in Thailand, and who have said:"So far, many countries have managed to progressively control the virus and the global situation has improved tremendously," Juan Lubroth, a senior FAO infectious diseases official, told a news conference. "Unfortunately, at the global scale, many outbreaks remain under reported or unreported. National or international bodies are often not in a position to immediately verify rumours or reports about unconfirmed outbreaks," Lubroth said."Based on an extrapolation of reports of birds falling from the air dead, from Asia, Europe, Africa, Australia and North America, Doctor Scientist Kiselyov estimates that the World’s avian population have sustained losses in the past month he estimates at 2 million.Doctor Scientist Kiselyov, in these reports, further agrees with the United States estimate of over 62 million human deaths, World-Wide, from this new variant of the H5N1 Bird Flu virus, and that the Americans based upon the reports from Harvard University. Most perplexing in the United States, however, were the American propaganda media organs not reporting to their citizens the shocking warnings issued this week by their own Military Leaders:"A government report says an outbreak could kill 2 million people and lead to quarantines, travel restrictions and an economic downturn.The White House on Wednesday unveiled a foreboding report on the nation's lack of preparedness for a bird flu pandemic, warning that such an outbreak could kill as many as 2 million people and deal a war-like blow to the country's economic and social fabric. It urged state and local governments to make their own preparations beyond the federal efforts. ( Source : Bird Flu News )In the government's first detailed look at the potential effects on public health and U.S. society as a whole, the report said a full-blown pandemic could lead to travel restrictions, mandatory quarantines, massive absenteeism, an economic slowdown "and civil disturbances and breakdowns in public order."It warned that the healthcare system - including doctors, nurses and suppliers of pharmaceuticals - was inadequate to meet the country's needs in a flu pandemic. "In the event of multiple simultaneous outbreaks, there may be insufficient medical resources or personnel to augment local capabilities," the report warned.More broadly, state, local and tribal governments should "anticipate that all sources of external aid may be compromised during a pandemic," it said, meaning that "local communities will have to address the medical and non-medical effects of the pandemic with available resources."While warning that as a last resort, mandatory travel restrictions may be necessary, such limits alone "are unlikely to reduce the total number of people who become ill or the impact the pandemic will have on any one community." Some observers welcomed the report's blunt tone."What can be said of these strange Western people; other than it is as if they would welcome mass death as a respite from their lives of needless consumption, and in perverse justification of their inaction in the face of such a dire threat.© January 24, 2007 EU and US all rights reserved
Honey bee die-off alarms beekeepersUNIVERSITY PARK —An alarming die-off of honey bees has beekeepers fighting for commercial survival and crop growers wondering whether bees will be available to pollinate their crops this spring and summer.Researchers are scrambling to find answers to what's causing an affliction recently named Colony Collapse Disorder, which has decimated commercial beekeeping operations in Pennsylvania and across the country.“During the last three months of 2006, we began to receive reports from commercial beekeepers of an alarming number of honey bee colonies dying in the eastern United States,” says Maryann Frazier, apiculture extension associate in Penn State’s College of Agricultural Sciences.“Since the beginning of the year, beekeepers from all over the country have been reporting unprecedented losses.“This has become a highly significant yet poorly understood problem that threatens the pollination industry and the production of commercial honey in the United States,” she says. ‘Because the number of managed honey bee colonies is less than half of what it was 25 years ago, states such as Pennsylvania can ill afford these heavy losses.”
Rare Turtles Found Dead in Bangladesh Feb 8, 9:17 AM (ET)By TOFAYEL AHMEDCOX'S BAZAR, Bangladesh (AP) - Hundreds of endangered sea turtles have been found dead along Bangladesh's coast in the past two weeks, triggering concerns about pollution and local fishing practices, an official said Thursday. A team of four scientists has launched an investigation into the deaths of the olive ridley turtles, said Jafar Ahmed, a top official in the government's marine fisheries department.At least 65 of the sea turtles - ranging from 88 to 132 pounds - have been found dead along a three-mile stretch of beach near Cox's Bazar, one of the main cities on Bangladesh's coast. Hundreds more dead turtles have been found elsewhere in the area, and on a pair of islands. There is no clear total of exactly how many turtles have died.Olive ridleys, the smallest of all sea turtles, are endangered. They often come ashore at this time of year to lay eggs, Ahmed said.There have been reports of turtle deaths before, but not as many as this year, he said.Ahmed would not give any specific reason for the spike in deaths, but said the use of illegal fishing nets near the shoreline has apparently increased recently. The fishermen do not properly release the turtles and often kill them, leaving them to wash ashore, he said.Other turtles that come to lay eggs on the beaches may be killed by pollution, stray dogs or foxes, or captured by tourists, he said.Mohammad Aminul Islam, the top administrator for the area, ordered local officials to teach people, from fishermen to tourists, to change their behavior."It's really sad that we couldn't protect the turtles," he said. "We are trying to mobilize resources to make a bigger plan to save the sea turtles in the future
Last week 35 miles of beach in Vietnam were covered with all types of fish dead also. The 60 or so birds(Gackles)who died in Austin, Tx a few weeks ago were never reported as to the reason why either. Here's neat site that I have been checking everyday. It is fascinating and you get information on these and other emergency situations around the world. I find that you just aren't getting news coverage on this stuff unless its is locally on a local issue, not on any national coverage. http://visz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/wo.php?lang=eng
February 10, 2007Marcel HonoréThe Desert SunSALTON SEA - Last month's cold snap has caused waves of dead fish to flood shores along the Salton Sea in a rare winter die-off.It's unclear how many of the sea's estimated 200 million fish perished, but hundreds of thousands of rotting fish floated along the shoreline at Desert Shores on Friday."It smells worse than cow (manure)," Desert Shores resident Chuck Friedly said Friday.Water temperatures that flirted with lethal levels - dipping to high-50s to lower-60s - are blamed for this most recent fish die-off in the state's largest lake, California Department of Fish and Game biologist Jack Crayon said Friday.WINTER DIE-OFFS RAREThe cold-water fish-kill at the Salton Sea differs from the warm-water "green tide" kill last August that claimed an estimated 3 million tilapia.There's no official fish-kill tracking, but the summer die-offs are more common, while winter die-offs are pretty rare.Officials first saw signs of the winter die-off about two weeks ago.Photo: A dying tilapia struggles to live while surrounded by other dead ones. The massive fish kill sent hundreds of thousands of the dead fish floating into the Salton Sea community of Desert Shores Friday. (Jay Calderon, The Desert Sun)"It's the worst I've ever seen," said Gabe Jensen, a Salton City resident since 1997. "The fish are just terrible. I just got over a cancer treatment and the smell's not helping me."Salton Sea residents may have further reason to want to pinch their noses: They'll likely shoulder any cleanup efforts, due to 2006 funding cuts.Funding for Salton Sea fish-kill cleanups was cut last March, when the Salton Sea Authority, facing a financial crisis, cut a $110,000 annual contract for a specialized boat that scooped up dead fish before they reached shore."Nobody had any money (to give)," said Rick Daniels, the authority's executive director.The authority now coordinates regular voluntary cleanups, using tools like pitch forks and garbage cans, Daniels said. The next one is scheduled for March 10.Following August's "green tide" die-off, the authority spent about $5,000 cleaning the sea's state park area, Daniels said. The group was later reimbursed.Pondering a nearby wall of dead fish that he said stretched 400 feet out to sea, Salton City resident Jensen lamented the major cleanup effort facing area residents. For years, various government agencies have debated who should handle these cleanups.Crayon said that while fish kills may be an extreme public nuisance, they're not an environmental threat and, therefore, not a responsibility for the Department of Fish and Game."If there was a major fish kill in Lake Tahoe my guess is state agencies would take a very different view," said La Quinta City Councilman Tom Kirk, who helmed the Salton Sea Authority from 1998 to 2004."Unfortunately for people living at the Salton Sea, they are too often on the low end of the totem pole."http://www.thedesertsun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...D=2007702100323
Web Posted: 02/08/2007 11:29 PM CSTAnton CaputoExpress-NewsThink this winter's streak of cold snaps has been hard on you? Count your blessings you're not an equatorial African fish.Tilapia, a popular target of fishermen on the San Antonio River, have been washing up dead on the banks since December, victims of unusually frigid water. Carcasses are now particularly numerous on the stretch of the river just north of Espada Dam.The fish kill isn't limited to the tilapia, said Mike Gonzales, manager of the San Antonio River Authority's environmental services department. Another non-native fish — a South American armored catfish known as the plecostomus — has also been dying in droves since Decembe
When you look at this thread and the below threadhttp://www.christianityboard.com/australia...irds-t1827.htmlI am beginning to think there is something major going on here all these deaths being put of to weather really means to me that they do not know the cause. Even if you put half of them off to weather. A pattern seems to be forming here at the base of the food chain that is trying to tell us something. O.K admitted we have had an El Nino winter,but we have had much worse and it didn't cause all this around the world. Putting on my armature geologist hat for a moment this is beginning to seem more like an electro-magnetic disturbance to me which affects the navigational systems of both water and air species. This is just my opinion and feelings don't have any facts yet to back this up.
Something is killing the nation's honeybees.Dave Hackenberg of central Pennsylvania had 3,000 hives and figures he has lost all but about 800 of them.In labs at Pennsylvania State University, the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture, and elsewhere in the nation, researchers have been stunned by the number of calls about the mysterious losses."Every day, you hear of another operator," said Dennis vanEngelsdorp, acting state apiarist with the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture. "It's just causing so much death so quickly that it's startling."At stake is the work the honeybees do, pollinating more than $15 billion worth of U.S. crops, including Pennsylvania's apple harvest, the fourth-largest in the nation, worth $45 million, and New Jersey's cranberries and blueberries.While a few crops, such as corn and wheat, are pollinated by the wind, most need bees. Without these insects, crop yields would fall dramatically. Agronomists estimate Americans owe one in three bites of food to bees.The problem caps 20 years of honeybee woes, including two mites that killed the valuable insect and a predatory beetle that attacked the honeycombs of weak or dead colonies."This is by far the most alarming," said Maryann Frazier, an apiculture - or beekeeping - expert at Penn State's College of Agricultural Sciences.One of the first to notice the latest die-off was Hackenberg, who lives in Lewisburg, north of Harrisburg in Union County.He and his son truck about 3,000 hives up and down the East Coast every year as part of a large but little-known cross-continental migratory bee industry.Hackenberg's bees pollinate oranges in Florida, apples, cherries and pumpkins in Pennsylvania, and blueberries in Maine. Come summer, they are buzzing along the Canadian border, making honey.This season, Hackenberg hauled his hives to Florida by Oct. 10, just as he has done for 40 years. By November, some hives were empty; others had just sickly remains.He made some calls and found out a beekeeper in Georgia had seen the same thing.Since then, with concern mounting, experts have been investigating. A few months ago, they were referring to the die-off as "fall dwindle disease." Now, they have ratcheted up to "colony collapse disorder."Last weekend, apiarist vanEngelsdorp and other researchers headed to central California, where hundreds of acres of almond trees - the source of 80 percent of the world's almond harvest - are about to blossom.Last fall, workers transported managed hives - about 450 per tractor-trailer - to California from colder areas such as the Great Lakes and the Dakotas. Now, hives are coming from Texas, Florida, Maryland and Pennsylvania. In all, about half the country's managed hives are needed for the mass pollination.As workers openthe hives to check them, "the picture's not so good," said Jeffrey S. Pettis, a leader in bee research at a U.S. Department of Agriculture lab in Beltsville, Md.Pettis said bees often had some winter loss, but this level of death was unprecedented.As dead or dying insects are collected, dissected and tested, several possibilities are emerging.The most recent mite problem - the varroa mite - compromises a bee's immune system, so a virus might be the new culprit, Frazier said. Or it could be a new fungal pathogen.Frazier said researchers also were looking at a new group of pesticides that might impair the bees' ability to orient to their hives. So maybe they are dying only because they cannot find their way back home.Honeybees are not natives. The country already had about 3,500 species of pollinating bees before Europeans brought honeybees in the 1600s. But because honeybees produce honey and can be managed so easily, they have become a mainstay of U.S. agriculture."Part of the problem is that today we develop these big monocultures of corn or peas or cabbage," Frazier said. "They wipe out the diversity of nectar sources and reduce nesting sites for wild bees. And we use, unfortunately, a lot of pesticides to keep the insects we don't want from eating these crops, which also works to eliminate the pollinators."So a Pennsylvania orchard manager, say, will bring in bees for the two weeks the apple trees bloom, then take them out so he can apply substances to control other insects.Neither entomologists nor growers can say what will happen when the 2007 growing season for most of the country's crops starts. "We're coming up onto the season where people are really going to be worried," Frazier said.Although research suggests the stress of moving bees long distances might be a factor in the die-offs, smaller beekeepers with stationary hives worry the problem will extend to their colonies as well.Already, Janet Katz, a beekeeper in Chester, N.J., thinks three of her 21 hives are failing.And the bees are stressed already, she said. "The weather last season was not cooperative," she said. "Over the course of the season it was too wet, too dry, too hot and too cold, all at the wrong times."Bees store honey every autumn - a hive needs 60 pounds to survive the winter - but with this year's warm weather, they ate a lot, and beekeepers had to supplement with sugar syrup.Now, the bees have sealed themselves inside the hives to stay warm, and the keepers can't open the structures until spring."Are we going to see this same thing, this collapsing disorder, in these bees? We don't know," Frazier said. "It's very possible this may extend to our nonmigratory population. We just won't know until spring."
Heres an interesting email from someone about the death of the Bee's...........................................................................................Just a comment on the honey bee problems in the US. I agree that genetically modified plant-life may be causing many problems for the bee population. There is also another possible cause that non-beekeepers probably wouldn't know about. Over the years the honey bee population in the US has been greatly reduced due to attacks of Tracheal mites, Varroa mites, and Hive beetles. Two years ago, in an effort to replenish the bee supply, the government introduced a program to give away "Russian" honeybees. In the US, most beekeepers keep "Italian" honeybees. The "Russian" bees were supposed to be more resistant to the Varroa mites. The original deal was that selected beekeepers would receive (free-of-charge) 2 packages of "Russian" bees and 2 hives. In exchange the beekeepers agreed to not sell the hives for 3 years and to allow regular inspections by government officials. Due to an overwhelming response by beekeepers the deal was later changed to 1 hive of "Russian" and 1 hive of "Italian" bees. I did not take part in the program but I did keep watch on the results in my state. Within the first year (2005) all 250 hives of "Russian" bees that were introduced into this state were dead. I personally know two beekeepers who took part in the program. By the end to 2006, one had lost 43 hives to "Colony Collapse", the other had lost 200 hives (his entire operation) to "Colony Collapse" I don't know if there is a connection or just a horrible coincidence but perhaps the plants aren't the only things being "modified".
February 27, 2007Honeybees Vanish, Leaving Keepers in Peril By ALEXEI BARRIONUEVOVISALIA, Calif., Feb. 23 — David Bradshaw has endured countless stings during his life as a beekeeper, but he got the shock of his career when he opened his boxes last month and found half of his 100 million bees missing.In 24 states throughout the country, beekeepers have gone through similar shocks as their bees have been disappearing inexplicably at an alarming rate, threatening not only their livelihoods but also the production of numerous crops, including California almonds, one of the nation’s most profitable. “I have never seen anything like it,” Mr. Bradshaw, 50, said from an almond orchard here beginning to bloom. “Box after box after box are just empty. There’s nobody home.”The sudden mysterious losses are highlighting
More and more research is beginning to suspect the electromagnetic field in earths atmosphere may be undergoing some sort of change that bees,birds and fish are much more susceptible to than larger mammals. The question is whats causing this and is it temporary or the start of something bigger. The electromagnetic field around the earth is directly affected by the sun, it is what causes the aurora borealis (northern lights) so is something changing on the sun? It could also be triggered by a change in the earth's core,like a heating up of the core or a shifting of the liquid core possibly resulting in a more Volcanoes and earthquakes. It could also signal the first signs of a pole reversal although the science is still out on this all agree something significant is taking place.kriss
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