Christ’s 1000 year reign

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Truth7t7

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Obviously you cannot even explain your own parallels.
The 7th vial and 7th trumpet are "The End" in parallel teachings

The same final judgement is seen in Revelation 11:18 & Revelation 20:11-15 in parallel teachings

The same final battle is seen in Revelation chapters 16, 19, 20, in parallel teachings

Revelation, parallel teachings of same events, it's that simple
 
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ScottA

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During the 1000 year reign, where Jesus reigns with a rod of iron, will his rule be Old Testament decrees? Like death by stoning etc.?
This is it. What does it seem like to you?
 

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The 7th vial and 7th trumpet are "The End" in parallel teachings

The same final judgement is seen in Revelation 11:18 & Revelation 20:11-15 in parallel teachings

The same final battle is seen in Revelation chapters 16, 19, 20, in parallel teachings

Revelation, parallel teachings of same events, it's that simple
Nope. Because the content itself is not the same. Your explanation would be more mashed up than mine. You don't even have Scripture that the 7th Trumpet happens in those chapters.
 

ScottA

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That Satan has deceived the world for the last 1900 years.
Yes, but God has allowed him this short time until the fullness of the times of the gentiles is complete. Therefore, the only issue is that we not be so blind as to be victims.

It is even possible to know and to begin to live the way that things might have gone instead of the way they did 1900 years ago...we can know the truth.
 

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Aaaand .... where is the Scripture for all of that nonsense?

I gave them to you twice on other threads, if you didn't bother with them then, why should I go through all th etrouble again?

But as far as the church in heaven before Jesus returns:

Revelation 19:6-9
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6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

This happens before Jesus returns as the chapter further shows!
 

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Nope. Because the content itself is not the same. Your explanation would be more mashed up than mine. You don't even have Scripture that the 7th trumpet happens in those chapters.
Parallel Teachings Of Tge Same Evebt (The End)

There is no time beyond the 7th Angel/Trump and the final judgment seen in verse 18 (The End)

Revelation 11:15-18KJV

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

There is no time beyond "It Is Done" this represents the second coming (The End)

Revelation 16:15-17KJV

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
 
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There is no time beyond the 7th Angel/Trump and the final judgment seen in verse 18 (The End)


Except the whole time forever and ever in the eternity. Apparently Amillennialism denies the eternity.
 

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Do you mean that this, right now is Jesus’ 1000 year reign?

Yes but they don't believe in a thousand year reign. They think it's "thousands and thousands" possibly millions and millions of years.
 
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Do you mean that this, right now is Jesus’ 1000 year reign? Isn’t it a physical 1000 year realm?
The 1,000 years is descriptive of the Lord's spiritual realm, there isn't earthly time in the Lord's eternal spiritual

One day is a thousand years, eternal, spiritual, no time "Be Not Ignorant"

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
 
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Do you mean that this, right now is Jesus’ 1000 year reign? Isn’t it a physical 1000 year realm?
"A thousand years" spiritually/biblically just means in the fullness of time. That is why Jesus referred to the times of the gentiles, saying until "the fullness of the gentiles has come in." The things of God are without time, so it is only a poor translation in worldly terms (otherwise not of this world).
 

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The 1,000 years is descriptive of the Lord's spiritual realm, there isn't earthly time in the Lord's eternal spiritual

One day is a thousand years, eternal, spiritual, no time "Be Not Ignorant"


Amills literally believe "years" are not time. Do you agree?
 

ScottA

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Amills literally believe "years" are not time. Do you agree?
Most references to time in the scriptures are rooted in the term "sevens." Meaning in the fulness of God...just as in the creation. So, no, years are just God translating things into worldly terms until the times are fulfilled, and those who are His enter into that same rest.
 

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Amills literally believe "years" are not time. Do you agree?
Stop your false claims, one day is a thousand years

This explains nothing more than the Lord's spiritual eternal is outside of earthly time, as you have been shown several times

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
 
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I don't have to understand foolish human opinionated doctrines. I only have to understand the Word of God.

You all think you are clever, or else very deceived and stubborn in your human originated doctrines.

Simple reading comprehension of Revelation 19 and 20 is all one needs to understand the Word of God. There are no hidden agendas or mysterious puzzles to solve.
Tell me, does scripture itself support the idea that scripture can be understood with "simple reading comprehension"?

1 Corinthians 2:9 However, as it is written: “What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived”— the things God has prepared for those who love him— 10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. 14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

What you call "simple reading comprehension" is what Paul calls flawed "human wisdom". If all we needed was "simple reading comprehension" to understand scripture then why did Paul indicated that we need spiritual discernment from the Holy Spirit to understand it?
 
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