And your point is . . . .
Please. The point is that Mary was born of a union between a man and a woman making her a sinner like everyone else. Which means she was stained with original sin like everyone else.
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And your point is . . . .
I've already explained it you to several times.Here's post 368:
Is this the very best you can do?
It's more than apparent you've never had to actually EXPLAIN it to anyone.
Go ahead. In your own words, explain it as if I know nothing about it. Which is what I used to do.
P.S. You yourself said that a person must believe as an adult or baptism means nothing.
See. I keep giving you clues, but you just don't know the answer.
Again: Why do babies get baptized?
No - the lie is YOURS.And HOW does one educate onesself when the RCC said, just about 30 yrs ago, that it was IMPOSSIBLE for a lay person to UNDERSTAND the bible and reading it was discouraged for this reason.
Another lie?
Go back and read mjrhealth's posts and tell me how "Christian" they are.That was rather rude of you.
And you call yourself a Christian...
Read the beatitudes
Mathew 5:3-10
It would do you some good.
MOST Protestants believe that Jesus had siblings. Why wouldn't THEY take Mary into their homes?Well, Jesus was dying, so he had to pick somebody as caretaker for his mother, as was a typical Jewish tradition for widows. From this one vague little verse, Mary has been exalted as the mother of the body of believers, as sinless, as the "queen over all things", and as the intercessor for our prayers, all entirely blasphemous fabrications of men, backed up nowhere in scripture.
The Mother of God is Mary, because her Son is God.Is the "MOTHER OF GOD" and the "redeemer" supposed to be the same person, or is this referring to two different persons? Anyone can answer this question, it doesn't have to be BOL.
Ahhhh - so you don't believe that with God ALL things are possible (Matt. 19:26).Please. The point is that Mary was born of a union between a man and a woman making her a sinner like everyone else. Which means she was stained with original sin like everyone else.
Stranger
Mary did what was required of the Law.Mary gave 2 turtle doves for a sin offering...
When did Jesus offer a sin offering for himself?Mary did what was required of the Law.
Had she NOT done what was required - she would have been guilty of sinning.
Jesus fulfilled everything that was required of the Law - and yet He was sinless.
Explain that . . .
When did Jesus go to the bathroom?When did Jesus offer a sin offering for himself?
You LIE!
You call Jesus a sinnerWhen did Jesus go to the bathroom?
Just because it's not in Scripture doesn't mean He didn't do it.
Matt. 5:17 tells us that Jesus came to FULFILL the Law.
Jesus was an obedient Jew, who ate Sabbath meals and observed the Law in obedience to the Father.
Phil. 2:8
Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming OBEDIENTto the point of death, even death on a cross.
Rubbish.You call Jesus a sinner
You don't know Scripture
What's the name of your cult again?
Ahhhh - so you don't believe that with God ALL things are possible (Matt. 19:26).
He's NOT allowed to make exceptions - is that it?
MOST Protestants believe that Jesus had siblings. Why wouldn't THEY take Mary into their homes?
Or - do you believe that Jesus was an only Child, like us Catholics?
It's "blasphemous" to call Mary or ANY person who prays for us an "intercessor"??
Can you show me where the Bible makes this claim??
Chapter and verse, please . . .
The Mother of God is Mary, because her Son is God.
Jesus is the "Redeemer."
The rest of the Church are "Co-Redeemers" in the sense that we are coworkers (sunergos) with God
(1 Cor. 3:9, 2 Cor. 6:1).
No - the Son did, though. He was Spirit.Stupid statement. God has no mother.
Did God exist before Mary?
Stranger
And that is false.Oh, I believe with God all things are possible. And it is not a question of God 'being allowed to make an exception'. No one is above God to allow Him to do anything. But, in His plan of salvation, God has revealed how His Son could be born into the human race and not be stained with original sin. Making Him 100% God and 100% man. A supernatural effort on His part to do so.
Yet, with Mary, nothing is said of her being without sin. No supernatural effort is made in making her without sin. She is born of a man and a woman which automatically makes her a sinner, stained with origianl sin. The Roman Church wants her to be without sin...but she is not. She was a sinner in need of a Saviour like all of us sinners.
So, you see...all things are possible with God. But that doesn't mean you create fiction and then say it could be so because all things are possible with God. Liars tend to do that. Oh...
Stranger
No - the Son did, though. He was Spirit.
Here's a little biology lesson: Mary was impregnated by God and gave birth to His Son. There is zero indication in Scripture that He implanted a fetus into Mary, making her a mere surrogate.
She gave Him her DNA - just as YOUR mom did to you.
Jesus is fully man and fully God.
Who do you think Mary is, if not His mother??
And that is false.
Not only is Mary Kecharitomene - she is the ONLY one in Scripture to be described as "Kecharitomene".
As I have already explained to you in great detail, "Kecharitomene" indicates a completed action with permanent result. So, it translates, “completely, perfectly, enduringly endowed with grace.”
There's your proof of her sinlessness. . .
There is nothing there to indicate any sinlessness. No virgin birth for Mary. A sinner just like me and you. But highly favoured.
Stranger
What does Scott Hahn say and in what book does he say it?so Jesus was sin from His mother's womb = if you were able to create your mother sinless would you - be convinced via google see [the Virgin Mary revealed] by Scott Hahn - twinc