Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

[PeterAndroz]

The difference is the difference in perspective, whether our perspective of times, or Gods eternal (timeless) perspective. For full understanding, our perspective has to reconcile with God's. The only way that is possible is both coming together when "but each one in his own order" passes from time to eternity. Which has occurred throughout all of history...each one in his own order.

So, yes, in Matthew it speaks of the angels gathering from the four winds and all the earth, of course--but it can only happen simultaneously if it is that twinkling of an eye between time and eternity. Which then is confirmed by Paul, saying "but"--"but each [one] (person) in his own order." By definition, that is how "each one" is defined.

Why is that important? Because it changes (proves wrong) what most people believe. That--by definition--is "strong delusion."

How we will exactly share eternity is a subject that earns a lot of authors a lot of money from the sale of books which I will never buy.
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As yet, there is NOTHING that leans me towards a JOINT rapture of OT saints, TRIBUALTION saints with the Paul-age saints of 'today'.
If you are hoping to convince me otherwise, save your keystrokes for others :)

 

[ScottA]

How we will exactly share eternity is a subject that earns a lot of authors a lot of money from the sale of books which I will never buy.
..
As yet, there is NOTHING that leans me towards a JOINT rapture of OT saints, TRIBUALTION saints with the Paul-age saints of 'today'.
If you are hoping to convince me otherwise, save your keystrokes for others :)

My hope is that all come to the full knowledge of God...but that requires reconciling with God (and His ways)--that has been His objective all along. But suit yourself. Yourself.

And the "sale of books" was a cheap shot. For the workman is worthy of his wages.

 

[David in NJ]

Yes it has. The amil symbolism and post trib only rapture is two of them.

Yes, I believe the Holy Spirit showed me the truth of and connected the dots of the pre-trib rapture.

IMPOSSIBLE for the HOLY SPIRIT to lie = therefore flee idolatry and return to the clear words of CHRIST = POST-TRIB

 

[David in NJ]

How we will exactly share eternity is a subject that earns a lot of authors a lot of money from the sale of books which I will never buy.
..
As yet, there is NOTHING that leans me towards a JOINT rapture of OT saints, TRIBUALTION saints with the Paul-age saints of 'today'.
If you are hoping to convince me otherwise, save your keystrokes for others :)

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