Grailhunter
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Does he have video? You cannot see Covid. Everything I told you is true. You can take that and do what you want with it.
Covid-19 is not a hoax (it's way worse than the flu)
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Grailhunter
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Actually it isn't.
My son and everyone at his job had to wear masks...one person came in only a little sick but was wearing her mask...she got sent home and her symptoms got worse. She later tested positive.
My son hasn't caught the virus because he and everyone (especially the sick girl) was wearing a mask. It's more about protecting everyone else than you. But it helps you too.
No it is not proof...we do not see it bouncing off the mask. A lot of people wear masks and do not catch it and a lot of people do not wear and do not catch it. (I can send you a bunch of pictures) A lot of people get vaccinated and do not catch it and a lot of people do not get vaccinated and do not get it....it still does not prove anything. Some people are that vaccinated and get it...In my area most are not vaccinated and do not get it. The pictures that I cannot send you are lines for vaccinations....because there are none.
And NOW... all day... I am going to be envisioning... little covid bugs flying around in bubbles of spit.... LOL
That's the nicest thing you have said to me since we met.... a cookie for you.
Not speaking for GH but what part of what he said is "unproven" in your mind? (Talking about the part where its smaller than germs and can travel by various means )
Regarding how far and/or fast depends on the specific prime mover and has literally an infinite number of possible answers.
"Contagious" is a measurement of pathogen volume, strength and concentration- has nothing to do with the mobility of the pathogen.
If you have a question, i will endeavor to address it for you
What you are saying is mere speculation. I don't form opinions based on speculation. It sounds more likely that the virus is suspended in mucus and moister.
No, its well known scientific fact.
The "virus" is a living squiggly" like every other virus.
The transmission media can be moisture (mucous is just moisture with other agents in it to add lubricity and surface tension/adhesion ability) but it can also be dust, skin cells or anything else. It can also decouple from everything and fly on the air.
None of that is speculation. It applies to every like virus known.
AWE... a living squiggly... So... If I wear a mask and don't talk directly to people... but pass them by in a store aisle maybe.... Am I not
protected a teeny tiny bit from those little squigglies?
I think you are stating that they do not just ride on wet molecules? That they can ride on skin cells or other particles... and even fly without anything?
I am interested in what you have to say. Can you make is simple English.
In Ontario... we have mask mandates... and social distancing also.
Are you suggesting that it is useless to wear a cloth or thin fiber mask?
Edited.... I went back and read all your posts... I think you already answered my questions previously... so don't bother.... Sorry to waste your time... I'm sure you have better things to do than repeat yourself for the simple minded.
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Grailhunter
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Ya proving it in a lab? LOL
One thing I want everyone to know...you cannot kill a virus because it is not living...it is a messenger to cells.
That is one of many reasons that I say we have to use common sense. Common sense---If moisture of any kind could contain or affect or encapsulate Covid, all you would have to do is use water in the air and water on surfaces to move it...get rid of it. It would stick to the moisture in the body...Covid does not wiggle loose it passes through. You could put a patient in a high humidity room and it would effect Covid. If moisture could contain, capture, or encapsulate Covid it would never move out of the blood stream.
No virus that I know of is glued to moisture...it would change so many things. What is the problem?...understanding very small things ... Subatomic particles....atoms....molecules....the smallest thing that you can see with an electron microscope, the smallest things that we can see with a optical microscope....the smallest things we can see with a magnifying glass....the smallest things we can see with the naked eye...or good glasses for old folks LOL Viruses are a little larger than molecules...but you have to increase their size a thousand times to see them in an optical microscope....the fiber in a mask you can see with the naked eye. From the viruses perspective LOL a single strand of fiber looks like swiss cheese and the distance between fibers can be like several yards. Then there is the discussion of how these different sized items can relate to one another. The surface connections are not like glue.
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I will try
I presume you cook so envision flour with each particle as an individual pathogen. (except the flour is several thousand times larger in mass and weight)
Blow a finger full. You will see it sit on top of water ( until it breaks surface tension and gets inside it) like some coffee creamers making clouds and the velocity of air will pick some of it up and float it all over ( watch dust particles in a very strong light)
Futile would be a better word because there is a "degree" ( be it a minor fraction of a percent) of protection from a mask in general- if the mask is not 100% properly fitted around the portals of entry ( nose and mouth) then the effectiveness is zero out of the gate.
In case of surface contact- when you take the mask off, IF the pathogen is on your hands, arms, clothes and you don't decontaminate then you still get contacted with the pathogen.
So "yes" a mask has a fraction of a percent legitimate protective capability but nothing more.
You're not using common sense here either. HIV is clearly transmitted in body fluids just like COVID-19. Think about it. It's just that the COVID stays in the nostrils and lungs so the obvious transmission is coughing and sneezes. That is common sense.
Michiah-Imla
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Dr. Fauci once stated the following before the hysteria begun:
“In the middle of an outbreak wearing a mask might make people ‘feel’ a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And often there are unintended consequences, people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face”
The mask is a sham and people who religiously wear them are simple minded.
I doubt that Fauci serves our Lord and Saviour. Beware!
"For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple." (Romans 16:18)
“In the middle of an outbreak wearing a mask might make people ‘feel’ a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And often there are unintended consequences, people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face”
The mask is a sham and people who religiously wear them are simple minded.
I doubt that Fauci serves our Lord and Saviour. Beware!
"For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple." (Romans 16:18)
Sheepdog, if this is a dumb question, I apologize beforehand.
When you said, if the particles of an odor can get through the mask then so can the virus - what size are the particulates of…say a perfume someone has on their skin and is spreading as they move around COMPARED TO the size of the particulates that are COVID?
When you said, if the particles of an odor can get through the mask then so can the virus - what size are the particulates of…say a perfume someone has on their skin and is spreading as they move around COMPARED TO the size of the particulates that are COVID?
I think the majority of experts would agree with the following:
How does COVID-19 spread from one person to another?
Data has shown that it spreads mainly from person to person among those in close contact (within about 6 feet, or 2 meters). The virus spreads by respiratory droplets released when someone with the virus coughs, sneezes or talks. These droplets can be inhaled or land in the mouth, nose or eyes of a person nearby. Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) - Symptoms and causes
How does COVID-19 spread from one person to another?
Data has shown that it spreads mainly from person to person among those in close contact (within about 6 feet, or 2 meters). The virus spreads by respiratory droplets released when someone with the virus coughs, sneezes or talks. These droplets can be inhaled or land in the mouth, nose or eyes of a person nearby. Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) - Symptoms and causes
I heard talk recently where we might have to hold our breath when within 6 feet of each other. I'll save on deodorant and mouthwash!
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