Brakelite
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Why compare Canada with Florida, a republican run state? Why not compare it with Democrat run new York, whose covid death rates are five times worse than Florida with smaller population?
Covid . . Are Americans totally stoopid??
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I read a magazine articles years and years ago on the topic. It was interesting but also a wee bit frightening. It discussed the case of a remote village in the jungles of South America where a virus hit and wiped out the entire village in about a week. It was pure chance that no one from that village had gone to a major city. Had that happened, odds are some people would have been getting on planes and spreading it around the world. It spread easily and quickly, and the mortality rate (judging from that village) was 100%.
The article also discussed how someone with a virus was on a ship going from South America to Europe. The ship stopped at an island and someone on the island got infected. I can't remember all the details; but almost everyone on that island died. I don't recall if the infected passenger wasn't contagious for the first part of the voyage and maybe he got off on that island; but it was pure luck the virus never made it to Europe.
The article was written at a time when the federal government was cutting spending on research on tropical diseases. Politicians and bureaucrats figured they had better things to spend their money on. Why bother with tropical diseases when the USA has so little territory that could be considered tropical? Of course, a policy of neglect and indifference is misguided. A disease can start out as a tropical disease and spread around the world. The USA has no automatic immunity.
Covid-19 is bad, but it could have been worse, far worse; and we are still not prepared.
Prayer Warrior
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LOL!!!!!!!!!! You have no idea what he had in mind when he tweeted about a "pandemic" last October. Or are you actually Joe Biden posting from the basement??
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Prayer Warrior
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Good point! About 1/3 of the confirmed cases in the entire U.S. have occurred in the Northeast, mostly in New York City. The Northeast is pretty much Democrat Country.
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Prayer Warrior
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I agree with this statement 100%, and I THANK GOD Trump is doing this! No other president in U.S. history has done more harm to our nation than Obama. Before you play the race card, I voted for Alan Keyes in the primaries when he ran for president! He attended a meeting of parents in my state concerned about radical education reforms. He and I had a discussion about it, and I was very impressed with him. Also, I would have loved to see Herman Cain as president!
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Several factors need to be considered. New York was hit by surprise. Florida had more time to prepare. It's also possible that people being outdoors a lot in Florida helped. Being cooped up in cold weather was probably a factor in spreading it so quickly in New York, overwhelming the health care system. So far, Florida's hospitals haven't reached a breaking point; but if they do, expect the mortality rate to rise.
I'm also thinking how old people are dealing with it is better in Florida than in New York where inept handling led to a lot of deaths in nursing homes. My guess is the retired people in Florida are less exposed to the virus by staying home a lot. The following statistics interest me more:
Big drop in Florida COVID-19 cases Monday may reflect tropical storm, but two-week trend is favorable
The U.S. has 4.3% of the world’s population, but nearly 26% of the world’s cases and 22% of the world’s deaths.
Those numbers will change, of course, when the virus hits poor areas more. Lack of testing, facilities and protective equipment will doubtlessly change those numbers. Some countries are also too poor to be able to pay people for not working; and where people are forced to work in order to eat, we may also see bigger numbers.
Americans disagree with you. For many good reasons. Normally, the "most admired man" in America is the president. In Obama's case, he continued to be the most admired man in America for two years after he left office. And he left office with a 58 percent approval rate, and continues to be widely admired by Americans. Partially, it's because he succeeded a less-than-average president, and was succeeded by a complete disaster of a president. But it's also because he made a huge step forward in solving our medical care issues, made America respected again in the world, and pulled us out of an economic tailspin, leading the longest economic expansion in U.S. history.
Most Americans think these are good things.
Why is it always about race for you people? Why would you even bring race up?
If you were less obsessed with race, I think you could be more objective about things here.
That won't happen. He unwisely let himself be persuaded to attend the Tulsa rally, sat in the closely-packed area where they made everyone sit, didn't wear a mask, and got COVID-19. And he just died.
He didn't. He wasn't talking about COVID-19; he was talking about how foolish it was to shut down our pandemic response team.
I'm merely noting what he said:
Nothing at all about COVID-19. He was just commenting on the stupidity of shutting down the pandemic task force, when the likelihood of serious disease outbreaks was higher than ever. It was stupid, and it was mostly because Trump's irrational hatred for Obama made him try to erase anything Obama did.
And in this case, his stupidity killed tens of thousands of Americans.
I'm merely noting what he said:
Nothing at all about COVID-19. He was just commenting on the stupidity of shutting down the pandemic task force, when the likelihood of serious disease outbreaks was higher than ever. It was stupid, and it was mostly because Trump's irrational hatred for Obama made him try to erase anything Obama did.
And in this case, his stupidity killed tens of thousands of Americans.
Waiting on him
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Hopefully the virus wasn't carried in by a missionary. When Americans first came to this continent disease was the primary killer of native Americans the way I understand it.
Waiting on him
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I have been following Florida because my family has a winter home there. Doesn't look like they will be going south this year.
Syphilis was brought back to Europe by Columbus' crew. It only took 20 years for Henry VIII, king of England to contract the disease!
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Yes, that's a fact. Entire civlizations fell because of the new diseases. The Mound Builder civilization had collapsed before Europeans ever reached the Ohio valley. It wasn't intentional, but it was a huge disaster for American populations.
There is good evidence to support that hypothesis.
Waiting on him
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So what do we do live in fear or embrace, because the way I see it is it's here?
Not this one! And it's not just me, most the people I know would agree.
Actually, that was why we elected him. To try to recover from the damage done by Obama, the Clintons, and the Bushes.
Did you like the Clintons? Good Administration?
Wondering . . .
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Waiting on him
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My opinion, everyone wants a savior, and the government is trying to sale " we're your huckleberry"
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