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Ok I see that.They became the european nations.
If you are talking about the stone that destroys Daniel's image, then it has not come yet. We are at toes of iron still mixed with clay.
1. huge and powerful with iron teeth. - rome, again the iron kingdom. Again, the most powerful, Rome actually held more land than any kingdom previous and any since, It also had the longest reign of any of the previous kingdoms on earth (including back to Egyptian kingdom)
do you have any proof please. Not saying you are wrong. Just want some proof.Thatr is factually incorrect. Greece conquered further than rome.
WW2 Germany held more territory captive.
Ok. Up front first, I must apologize. My head is super foggy and I'm pooped, so stuff may not come out correctly. If if doesn't I will try to answer anyway, maybe a bit later.Ok I see that.
We still have the one person who whom they all give their power too. Also the 3.5 years given to them to go against the saints. And the other things we are told they will do
Are they still in power today? Sorry just trying to figure out your thinking..
ok I see, yes it is fascinating.Ok. Up front first, I must apologize. My head is super foggy and I'm pooped, so stuff may not come out correctly. If if doesn't I will try to answer anyway, maybe a bit later.
The kingdoms are still there. As nations.
As for the person coming into power--
'When the Ostrogoths fell at the hands of Justinian in 538 AD all remaining opposition to Roman Catholic supremacy had vanished and the church rose triumphant, sitting enthroned upon the ashes of Imperial Rome."
https://lineagejourney.com/read/the-roman-empire-from-313-538-ad/
3.5 years first, i believe the 3.5 years is 1260 days, and using each day for a year, comes out to 1260 years
Adding 1260 to 538=1798 . what happened in 1798?
Feb 20 French General Louis Alexandre Berthier forcibly removes Pope Pius VI from Rome during French occupation of Rome (Pope later dies a prisoner in Valence)
What Happened in February 1798
Then in 1929, the Lateran Treaty was signed, this restored "land and privileges" to the papacy .
The Lateran Treaty - Is it Part of Bible Prophecy?
and is what many believe to be the healing of the mortal wound.
Whether you believe it or not, it is fascinating, isn't it?
I hope this helps. Just offering it as more info for the thread.
do you have any proof please. Not saying you are wrong. Just want some proof.
ok, I have tried to look it up. I can not confirm the land area of Greece. I did find that rome was 2 million so that is correct. I will take your word for it.Best I could find in short notice:
Persian (Achaemenid) Empire Map (biblestudy.org) Grecian Empire covered 2.9 million sq. miles at its largest.
How many square miles was the Roman Empire at its height? – JanetPanic.com 2 million sq. miles
Largest Empires In History - WorldAtlas England controlled over 35 million sq miles.
How much land did Hitler conquer? - Answers Nazi Germany conquered over 3 million sq. miles
Hello,
The usual mistake, trying to make Daniel's statue prophecy fit the Beast prophecies is what is being presented here as "Facts." The reality is that the two prophecies are not necessarily connected. The Daniel 2 Prophecy ends with the judgement of the kings of the earth, while the Daniel 7 prophecy is in play right up and until the finial judgement, with a 1,000 year gap in the prophecy while the four beasts of verses 1-12 are imprisoned in the bottomless pit before being released once more after the 1,000 years is past to have their last hooray just before the final judgement at the end of the seventh age .
The Daniel 2 prophecy is all about the people, people groups, kingdoms and empires that have and will have dominion over the Land of the Chaldeans. Whether or not these people, people groups, kingdoms or empires manifest the primary characteristics of the respective four beasts mentioned in Daniel 7 is not important as the Daniel 7 beasts are wicked fallen heavenly hosts who stir up the sea of humanity such that what rises up out of the sea of humanity manifests the respective four beasts of Daniel 7:1-12 primary mentioned characteristic, until they, the wicked fallen heavenly angels who are the described beasts of Daniel 7:1-12 are judged and imprisoned in our near future at the same time as the kings that have trampled God's sanctuary and earthly hosts at Armageddon.
The Daniel 2 statue prophecy is about the people, people groups, kingdoms and Empires having control of the people that live in the land of the Chaldeans. The first three people, people groups, kingdoms and empires that have dominion over the land of the Chaldeans were revealed to us as the Chaldeans, the Medes and Persians and the Grecian empire, initially under the leadership of Alexandra the Great and then under the leadership of one of the Generals and their descendants after the death of Alexandra the Great.
The Eastern Grecian Empire, about the year 120 BC devastated and desolated the Land of the Chaldeans, and it remained devastated and desolated for around 2,000 + years until 1926 when a nation was established once more in the Land of the Chaldeans by the British and the French.
Until people begin to understand the contextual relationships in the Daniel 2 and 7 prophecies, they will be lead by their nose by Satan and his followers into false understanding like what is being expressed in this and other threads.
Shalom
PS: - in accordance with Exodus 20:4-6, Israel cannot be redeemed until the beginning of the fifth age of their existence when they realise the significance of their idolatrous worship and that the idolatrous worship that they indulged in during the first four ages of their existence from the time of the birth of Isaac up and until the completion of the 2,400 years of the Daniel 8 prophecy that the kings of the earth and the Little Horn that they are allowed to trample God's Sanctuary and His earthly Hosts. Paul in Romans 11:25-26 bears testimony to this fact but it has been twisted by Satan and the men who are under his influence to have a very different understanding which hides God's prophetic word outcome from us..
I am confused.
You say we do not know the kings yet. I agree
Then you say they will be defeated by Christ. I again agree
Since CHrist has not returned yet to defeat the final kingdom. What is the issue?
Revelations will give us these answers I think but we have not got there yet.
I did not want to post my whole comments. they were to long. so I wanted to discuss one part at a time.
Anyone ever seen this ?
Ten kingdoms.
- Anglo-Saxons
- Franks
- Allemans
- Burgundians
- Visigoths
- Suevi
- Vandals
- Heruli
- Bavarians
- Ostrogoths 3 plucked by the roots Vandals, Heruli, and the Ostrogoths the Heruli were in 493; the Vandals in 534, and the Ostrogoths in 553.
I am confused.
You say we do not know the kings yet. I agree
Then you say they will be defeated by Christ. I again agree
Since CHrist has not returned yet to defeat the final kingdom. What is the issue?
Revelations will give us these answers I think but we have not got there yet.
I did not want to post my whole comments. they were to long. so I wanted to discuss one part at a time.
that is allegorizing that verse. the verse simply means as it is written that God would visit the sins of the fathers down through four other generations, not ages of Israel's existence. But that ended when Jesus died and ended the Mosaic Law.
Jesus plainly said that that during this present time period that they would.
But God still has his back toward Israel today and it is over 4,000 + years since Isaac was born. Why are their so many scriptures that point to israel having to repent of their idolatrous behaviour before God before He will relent and turn once again towards Israel. The two ages/days of the Lord, i.e. about 2,000 + years of Israel being scattered through the whole earth has happened during the time period that the iniquities of the father's idolatrous worship began to visit the father's children and the Children's children began with the Birth of Christ, where Christ's birth heralded the beginning of the fifth age of mankind and the third age of the existence of the Nation of Israel that started with the birth of Isaac.
Hosea 6:1-3 also speaks of this same 2,000 + years period where God's back is turned so that He is not able to see the troubles of Israel during this period.
You are welcome to your understanding but because the Israelites could not understand that their iniquities of idolatrous would be visited upon their children for such a long time as two ages. It is only now that Israel is awakening to the realisation that they have to renet of their father's iniquities as well as their own idolatrous worship before God will relent and turn towards them.
Jesus plainly said that that during this present time period that they would.
Once again you force a day to mean 1,000 years without any biblical warrant.
Israleis have been awakened in every generation since Pentecost! There has always been a remnant, and until Israles national regeneration, there will always be a remnant.
Hosea is literally speakingof the last 3 days of teh "tribulation" when the veil is finally removed, Israel mourns for their sin of rejecting their Messiah and repent and cause jesus to retuirn to fight for them with the forces of Antichrist mounted against them.