BlessedPeace
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Yo keep referring to the OT. Is that because you won't accept what the New says about God walking among us as Jesus?
Does God need man?
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BlessedPeace
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I drive several cars.
I bought a used Alfa Romeo Spider that I’ve been restoring. I still need some parts to finish the job and I need to get it out of my garage and onto the road.
A stock photo.
What you need to build is a false premise.
Then you can pretend you need to build whatever you ‘want.’
The premise is real. The car is sitting in my garage as we speak. I’m not able to drive it until I have all of the parts needed to finish the job.
I’m not pretending to build anything.
I have a plan in mind for the little car, which I‘m hoping the local constabulary will find to be done in grand style if not in good taste.
This much is true, because where you have the One, you have the other.
Yet for that One, there is no "need" for the other. The other just "is" because the One is.
The story is told, but folks don't recognize it for what it is-- mostly because they've been taught something else. They neither see, nor understand. It's a bit like this car project of yours. Once you decide to build it, it can become a personal possession, and then a personal obsession, and at some point it can even possess you.
That's the story. Make no copies. Have no idols.
Thou shalt have no other elohim before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Jehovah thy elohim am a jealous El.
In the beginning, elohim made the heavens and the earth.
And elohim said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness....
They didn't need to.
They wanted to.
Here's the problem with your premise. It contradicts scripture, not to mention nature.
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent...
There’s no need for me to repeat what you already know concerning the state of our agreement.
They wanted to?
He isn’t they, in my theology. And he needed the pieces of the plan in order to execute his plan. He made them. Alone. By himself.
For you there wasn’t. I also write for the benefit of others, as do you. For them, there is or may be a need.
I see a lot of posturing from you and a good amount of stubborn obstinance to support your premise, but no scripture....? What support do you offer for your theological notion that God needs man?
The world is mine and the fulness thereof. (Ps 50)
Neither is He worshipped with men's hands, as though He needed anything, seeing, He giveth to all life, and breath, and all things. (Acts 17)
The world is mine and the fulness thereof. (Ps 50)
Neither is He worshipped with men's hands, as though He needed anything, seeing, He giveth to all life, and breath, and all things. (Acts 17)
Starise
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If I decide not to marry a woman, then I decided I don't need a woman in my life. If I love a woman, there can be a codependency there that I need her or I feel I need her emotionally. This is the bond I think God has with us, and the bond satan is doing everything in his power to destroy. Is there a man hole in God's heart that only we can fill? It would seem so.
Yes He could do without us, but it would feel like a divorce. He much prefers us in His company because this is why we were made.
Yes He could do without us, but it would feel like a divorce. He much prefers us in His company because this is why we were made.
What you should see is a person who is wrestling with the issue of why God allows evil.
Scripture is provided sporadically, by myself and others.
God created the heavens and the earth. (Scripture.) What need was there for him to do that? You say none. I say God has a plan and makes what he needs in order to bring it to fruition.
I’ve been reasoning about it throughout the thread.
God doesn’t need for man to exist in order for man to worship him?
Scripture says that God doesn’t need anything, including man to worship him. Read the passage again.
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