DOES NO ONE WANT TO BE CORRECTED?

[Ritajanice]

Not true. But I have told you enough.

You have told me nothing...just snippets of scripture, then when asked about the 3 rd heaven..you can’t answer the question..you just tell me to study scripture, what a cop out.

If you know the scriptures, do your own homework.

The scriptures...don’t birth our spirit...I suggest that you seek God out with your heart for there is where you will find him and give your scripture knowledge a rest.

 

[ScottA]

when asked about the 3 rd heaven..you can’t answer the question.

No, apparently it is you who can't answer the question...and you don't even seem to know that I gave you the answer.

 

[Ritajanice]

No, apparently it is you who can't answer the question...and you don't even seem to know that I gave you the answer.

It’s not important that I know any questions that you ask of me...plus you believe you gave me the answer..once again your opinion.

answer.

Seek the Lord God out with all your heart for that is where you will find him.

 

[ScottA]

It’s not important that I know any questions that you ask of me...plus you believe you gave me the answer..once again your opinion.

Seek the Lord God out with all your heart for that is where you will find him.

Do you not know what is written about "proclaiming to be God" as you are doing by proclaiming what I have said is "opinion"--as if you could possibly know?

This is where I get off. You are finished. So shall it be written.

 

[Ritajanice]

Commentary.

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What does it mean that Paul went to the third heaven​

ANSWER

Paul describes a time when he was caught up to the third heaven (2 Corinthians 12:2–4). He mentions himself in the third person: “I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. And I know that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows—was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.”

The word heavens can be used to refer to different realms. Heavens can refer to the sky and the earth’s atmosphere, making it the “first heaven” (Deuteronomy 11:11; Psalm 104:12; Isaiah 55:10). It can also refer to outer space, where the stars and planets are—the “second heaven” (Psalm 8:3; Isaiah 13:10). And it can refer to God’s dwelling place, which is beyond the other “heavens,” a place known as the “third heaven” (Psalm 33:13–14; Isaiah 66:1; Matthew 6:9; Hebrews 7:26; Revelation 11:19). When Paul says that he went to the third heaven, he means that he went to the place where God dwells.

Interestingly, Paul uses the phrase caught up to refer to how he was transported to heaven; it’s the same Greek word used in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 to refer to the rapture of the church. Following his list of “boasts” in 2 Corinthians 11:22–33, Paul further verifies his apostolic office by including his “visions and revelations from the Lord” (2 Corinthians 12:1). The apostle is unsure whether he was physically in the body or apart from the body when he experienced heaven (2 Corinthians 12:2–3). While there, he heard and saw things that he couldn’t describe and was forbidden to relate (verse 4). Some believe this event occurred during Paul’s first missionary journey, when he was stoned and left for dead in Lystra, but we can’t be sure. The privilege of seeing heaven no doubt gave Paul courage to face his later trials and suffering (2 Corinthians 4:17).

Christians today may have not seen the third heaven as Paul did, we can be just as confident of our future in heaven because we are in Christ. The Bible does not tell us everything we might like to know about heaven, but we know that it will be a wonderful place where we will dwell with Christ (John 14:3). Paul knew that being with Christ is far better than anything he could experience on earth (Philippians 1:21–23). Until the day we eternally enter God’s presence, we can state with confidence along with the apostle Paul, “For we live by faith, not by sight. We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:7–8).

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Finally, a reasonable reasonable response appropriate for these times. Thank you!

The "lie" is one lie (though it effects many areas of what has been believed) was only stated as one by Paul, but not revealed at that time, as the final piece was foretold by Daniel, and John as not to be revealed until the time of the end, or just before the sounding of the seventh angel. Which I am able to tell you--not because I am special or any of the other words you have used to describe me, but because it was foretold to come "as He declared through His servants the prophets"--in other words, by the same means, which was by one chosen by God. In spite of your great rejection of any such thing even being possible--that is His method, and He has declared it to be the same regarding the "finish of the mystery of God", or His final revelation finishing all that is written by revealing the contents of the little book previewed by John--which is no addition to what is written, but rather the revealing of what was also written, but sealed until the end.

These things are all written and I have claimed nothing new, unless it is new to you--which is not new, but simply has not been known before now--not to anyone, except "His servants the prophets." You are not alone.

The "lie" was and is the timing of Jesus' return. Which as He himself said "must shortly take place" (Revelation 22:6. Which He only eluded to, as did Paul, because of the prophecy and plan of God to seal and restrain until the end. Leaving many to speculate that His return would not "shortly take place" against what Jesus himself said. Which has consequently effected the interpretation and understanding of many other points of scripture, thus being referred to as "strong delusion."

But you don't have to believe any of it. Your choice. Even so, it is written.

All that to say nothing about what is "the " lie as you call it.

did He already return?

do you believe in transubstantiation.

Such emotion!

No!
Do you believe in transubstantiation.

 

[ScottA]

All that to say nothing about what is "the " lie as you call it.

did He already return?

do you believe in transubstantiation.

No!
Do you believe in transubstantiation.

You're not even reading my posts! Worse than a bot!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You're not even reading my posts! Worse than a bot!

As soon as you answer the question I asked many many posts ago we can move forward.

Do you believe in transubstantiation

 

[ScottA]

As soon as you answer the question I asked many many posts ago we can move forward.

Do you believe in transubstantiation

I answered already. If you missed it--go back and reread all the posts, can't be more than a couple hundred.

The ball is in your court.

 

[Lambano]

DOES NO ONE WANT TO BE CORRECTED?​

Volunteers, please line up at the table in single file.

 

[ScottA]

DOES NO ONE WANT TO BE CORRECTED?
Volunteers, please line up at the table in single file.

But when Jesus heard this, He said, “It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick. But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire חסד, not sacrifice.’”
- Matthew 9:12-13

Coupled with your signature--that's great advice.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I answered already. If you missed it--go back and reread all the posts, can't be more than a couple hundred.

The ball is in your court.

No you didn't. But thanks for trying. You can answer again it would be quicker. If it was you don't even know what it is, I posted what it is and you read the posts so ball is in your court.