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    TLHKAJ Well-Known Member

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    @Grailhunter
    If you're looking from the outside in, it would be more difficult to weed through all the info and see what is involved. But from the inside out, it's all too real. It isn't just the CIA and FBI ...the whole government is corrupt and overrun with cult involvement. The term "conspiracy theory" is just to throw people off from the truth.
     
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    Thank you ...I appreciate your prayers very much!
     
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    Sis, are you talking to me? God bless you.
     
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    I understand, yes, she was wicked and allowed that to happen but to rejoice that her soul is screaming in Hell is not a good thing. We mourn also for her soul because Hell is not a place I would even want my worst enemy to end up. We must love our enemies as we love ourselves.. From the Lord's standpoint, we are all guilty and have broken the law. Thank God for the blood of Jesus!
     
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    First off my statement was a satire....a joke....still to address your reaction....
    Well ya know...wouldn't it be nice if all were saved and go the heaven! I want to sign on for that deal! Do anything you want and go to heaven. No punishment...no ramifications....no responsibility, no accountability, no day of reckoning! Well then letz expand that ideology, since we do not call abortion...murder...then if I want to do a few retro-abortions...adults being aborted! (As far as I am concerned that is less of an evil than murdering and innocent baby.) So if I do that 4 or 5 thousand times....less than 8 million....you are expecting what?
     
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    yep tlhk
     
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    I totally get what you are saying Grailhunter. But the Lord said "Vengeance is Mine." I believe that the judgments going on right now is because we have allowed these babies to be put through the fire. Remember too that we are not to hate the sinner but the sin. I initially thought, "That wicked woman finally died!" too, and I felt the conviction of the Holy Spirit. I had to repent. We must all remain humble because like I said, we must not rejoice that the soul went to hell. She was still created in the image of God and I am sure it grieved His heart to send her there. We must watch what we say because we will answer to every word that comes out of our mouth. Death and life are in the power of the tongue and those that love it will eat the fruit thereof. Let us speak life. blessings!
     
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    @Grailhunter I said in a previous post that I'd write about how the Lord confirmed to me the Christian counselor that I could trust. I went online on the site for Theophostic Prayer Ministry. It is a type of counseling with principles based on John 8:32, “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” I went on the site and used their search feature to find a prayer minister near me. The closest ones were a couple hours away. I began to communicate with one lady via email, and then by phone. I felt very comfortable and safe talking to her. So we set up a meeting at her church. She was over 2 hours from me.
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    Before we were to meet, I had this dream...which I later gave the title... "TRIAGE! The Mission of the Church"

    I dreamed that I arrived at a church, and was greeted at the doors by 2 blond haired women wearing nursing uniforms and stethoscopes around their necks. They led me inside the church. We turned right down a hallway and as we walked down the hall, the church began to resemble a hospital. They took me to a room, and I was to put on a hospital gown (vulnerability). They came back in the room and laid me on a hospital bed. (Neither had spoken one word thus far.) The one with the longer blond hair laid on the bed shoulder to shoulder next to me. The other "nurse" leaned over me and placed her stethoscope on my heart...looked over at the other "nurse" (next to me) and said, "She was born with this. This has been from birth."
    [End of Dream]
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    Well, the next time I talked to this prayer counselor, I asked if she had blond hair ....yes, she did. And so did her prayer partner, the woman who sat in on ministry sessions and prayed. The one I spoke to (the main counselor) had longer blond hair. The prayer partner had short blond hair.

    When I went to meet with them, they met one of my child alters. She (my counselor) felt a bit unsure if she should be the one to minister to me, as she had never ministered to someone with alter personalities. So the next day, she requested we meet outdoors under a pavilion in the fresh air to discuss her concerns.

    Now...let's back up a little. I had stayed in a hotel in her town the first night, and while reading my Bible, I came across this verse...
    “I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye.” — Psalm 32:8 (KJV)

    I felt the Lord spoke to me about this counselor, so I wrote her name next to the verse, and the date.

    So, under that pavilion, these two women met with me, and my counselor shared with me her concerns, stating she didn't want to bring harm to me, and wasn't sure she was the right person since she had no experiences in cases like mine. I looked at her and said, "The Lord will teach you." (LOL! This is what got her!) She smiled and looked at her friend/prayer partner, then back at me and said that if I felt I could trust her, she was willing to try. I said I was. And then she said... "We just want to listen to your heart."
    Wow! How perfectly fitting of her to say that after the dream I was given.

    And here's the kicker....the night before, she was feeling doubts about ministering to me, and she went to bed praying about it. The Lord woke her up with this verse.... you probably guessed it ...Psalm 32:8! LOL! She wrote my name and the date in her Bible next to that verse. Little did she know, I had done the same thing (with her name).

    So ...she walked alongside me in intense prayer counseling for about 3 years and I got a very good foundation in my healing and freedom.

    Tagging @Heart2Soul @Hidden In Him @APAK @Prayer Warrior
     
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    NOTE: The statement given in the dream: "She was born with this. This has been from birth" meant ...I was born with my mind already split, due to trauma introduced in the womb. This is common with MK Ultra. And the next statement speaks of the bloodline/multigenerational aspect of the SRA that I was born into.
     
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    Good tags! warning I am a walking speech.
    What you are describing is very serious...and unique enough that it would be difficult to find someone that is trained or had experience with it.
    You are talking about alter personalities and I am assuming that is something like multiple personalities, which many times is associated with past lives....but you are linking it to your experiences with MK-Ultra, which throws up a whole different array of possibilities. MK-Ultra is a government project that I cannot say enough bad things about. They did deal with civilians and there has been law suits. It is good that you have received some Christian counseling and I believe...I say believe, because I am not qualified to give you a definitive answer, I believe the key to the most success you can have is Christian group affiliation, church affiliation.

    I say the most success you can have is because you seem to convey that you have been damaged....mentally and spiritually. That is the impression that I am getting...if wrong, sorry in advance. If you are damaged, if you have occurrences that seem to be multiple personalities... and you have been wronged in who knows how many ways that includes satanic involvement then, only God is qualified to help you. My experience with what you are describing is limited. I have dealt with children and women that have been raped...by family or others. What happens is their ability to trust is limited and difficult. Even trusting churches or Christians or neighbors or any government becomes difficult or impossible. A lot of them live in a world of conspiracy theories, where boogiemen hide everywhere.

    For this reason you cannot expect anyone to rectify the past. What you are describing is so unique that no church you go to will be equipped to handle what has happened to you. So that is not the goal and perfection in yourself is not going to happen. I had recommended to you that you surround yourself with Christians and to become active in church activities... So then an active church is important. You might think maybe ....what good does do to help the church with food drives or preaching the Gospel or youth activities or sports or church dinners, picnics, or holiday plays...how does this help? In the company of wolves, it is good to have shepherds...what it does, is put you in the company of Christians, in the company of shepherd that have the Word of God in their heart. And it changes your focus from yourself to others. Exhaust yourself in doing the work of the Lord. Learn to love and be loved by others...lots of hugs....learn to trust....trust in God...and those He loves.

    Now the theological side. I do not know how much you have done in the past, that you thought were sins. Forgiveness from Christ is one thing and forgiving yourself can be another. Now my religious views are such that when you are baptized, you die in Christ...That person died and the person that comes out of the water is a new person....born again with a new life and the Deity has no memory of the person or their sins that went down in the water. This is more than forgiveness and it done for a reason. For people that have done bad things in the past, Satan can come and whisper in their ear...."I know what you have done. You do not deserve to be a Christian. You cannot change!" Well you can tell Satan to get behind you, because you are literally not that person. God does not know that that person ever existed. You can go forward with a clean slate. Know that you are completely clean after baptism and when you stumble from there, Christ is there to pick you up, forgiveness is yours and it is between you and Him.

    You have to get it in your head that the past is the past and the future is yours to make. Keep your focus on the future. Surround yourself with Christians...get active in a church...knowing neither Christians or churches are perfect. It is about learning to trust all over again, it is about a relationship with Christ, it is about leaning on the non-perfect to move forward. You are not perfect and they are not perfect but together you can move forward with Christ at your side....on your side!

    So that is the best I can give you....I am not perfect or know everything....count on the one that is and does....Christ. Trust the best you can and fellowship. My personal recommendation is Holy Ghost churches...but that is your choice or maybe what you have available. You have tagged some good people...very good people...I am sure they will offer advise...God Bless you on your journey.
     
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    marksman My eldest granddaughter showing the result of her

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    Your story is concrete evidence that abortion solves nothing. It clearly shows that there are two victims. I would not wish any woman went through something like that. To call abortion health care is the biggest joke of the century. May God truly bless you and your children all of whom I would suspect are delightful.
     
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    marksman My eldest granddaughter showing the result of her

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    The pro-abortion cartel tells us that no one is forced into an abortion. It is the free will of the woman concerned. as they say my body my choice. They claim it is wrong not to allow a woman to have an abortion if that is what she wants.
     
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    Thank you for your input. I do want to mention that alter personalities have absolutely nothing to do with past lives. (lol)

    Anyway, I shared those things mainly to help you understand. I'm not really seeking help with these things. God has been steadily healing and I am already surrounded by a good Christian support system. :) I assure you, I do know God's love and forgiveness. :)

    Thank you for your kind words and advice. :)
     
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    Thank you...yes, all of my children are amazing. That is something that I can't say enough ...God blessed me with wonderful children.❤
     
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    See, I did not know if what you are experiencing...this "alter personalities" is anything close to multiple personalities, and I did not think that past lives have had anything to do with what you experienced or are experiencing. But in multiple personalities I can guarantee you that these people are many times talking about past lives....true or untrue.

    I am glad you are all good. Really did not get that from what you were saying. God Bless and carry on.
     
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    Actually, that also is wrong. MPD (multiple personality disorder) is the same thing I deal/dealt with, which is now known as DID (dissociative identity disorder). MPD was renamed DID in the 1990's to give the condition a more accurate description.

    I don't know what led you to believe this has anything to do with past lives. It may be that you came across someone whose alters believed they came from a past life. That might be because of lies they were told by abusers. But it isn't something that commonly happens with DID/MPD.

    MPD/DID is severe dissociation and it occurs in children who experience severe ongoing trauma before age 7. It is a coping and survival mechanism and is completely curable when the traumas and safety are dealt with. It isn't even a mental illness, as there is no "illness" about it and no chemical imbalance.
     
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    I don't know what led you to believe this has anything to do with past lives.
    I don't know, tons of documentation...documentaries...etc
    I do not know it is true or not, it just comes up all the time. There have been several documentaries on it over the years and a few movies based on it. I am surprised you have never heard of it.
    type in Multi personality disorder and "past lives" in a web browser and Bon Appetit.

    Other than that, what you are saying is probably true.

    Either way I am glad to hear that you are all good. God Bless.
     
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    I don't need to research it further, brother. I've lived it and know for a fact what it is. Alter personalities are parts of the person's humanity that have been fractured off due to trauma. They aren't entities from some supposed "past lives." BUT ....read carefully .....an alter personality may be believing a lie, that they came from a past life. That doesn't make it true. Anyone can believe a lie. AND ...that is not a common occurrence with MPD/DID. I know this from experience, as well as having known literally over 100 others who deal with MPD/DID. None of them claim to be people from past lives.

    Rather than searching for "multiple personalities and past lives" why not just search "multiple personalities"? You will find that 99.9% of the info you get has nothing at all to do with "past lives." By searching "past lives" you are restricting the info you will get in a search.

    I will give you some information in another thread ...this one has gone off the original topic.
     
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    I am not disputing what you have experienced and how it apply to you and your knowledge of it. But there are different facets of it and other people that have experienced it in different ways and it is documented and well known.

    You said...I don't know what led you to believe this has anything to do with past lives. Well like I said this has appeared and is common knowledge. So I gave you that information.

    It is like your MK-Ultra, that is definitely and rogue CIA project that encompassed several mind manipulation projects that span decades. But I am not disputing your experience with it or how it affected you. I just hope it is water under the bridge for you.

    God Bless.
     
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