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Featured FACTS ABOUT ABORTION

Discussion in 'Ethics & Morality Forum' started by marksman, Jun 21, 2020.

  1. Grailhunter

    Grailhunter Well-Known Member

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    Let us have a moment of silence for the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Over 8 million babies were murdered during her tenure. If we are real quiet, maybe we will be able to hear her screaming in Hell. I wonder if they packed the good barbecue sauce in her casket. I hear demons like the spicy stuff! Yum Yum!
     
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    Philip James Well-Known Member

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    Rather, let us pray for the Lord to have mercy on her soul..

    Lord,
    For the sake of your sorrowful passion,
    Have mercy on Ruth Ginsburg,
    And on the whole world!
     
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    Grailhunter Well-Known Member

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    Have mercy on the 8 million babies that were murdered....
    Ruth will get her reward.
    In the military you get awarded your sentence.....because you worked for it.
    Oh, yes...prayers....Prayers for those murdered babies and the mothers that have to live with the fact that they let a monster murder their babies!
     
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    Philip James Well-Known Member

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    Yes, prayers for them too,

    Lord, have mercy!
     
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    shortangel Active Member

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    thank you so much for shareing this as graphic as these photos are, we need to know the truth about what really happens in abortion this is preety shocking & sad :( i'm an adopted daughter of a loving woman who got me from an adoption agency back in the 70's, my biological parents gave me up for adoption, this woman who is my mom loves me very much, my biologiccal parents could have chosen to abort me but they did not, i'm glad that they didn't because i have a disability
     
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    HEY everyone . who here would love to watch an approver of abortion become a non approver .
    I bet if i had a time machine and took ol stan back to Even the moment he was conceived and then said
    Okay i am going to walk over and give your mother a pill that will abort you , HOW MUCH yall bet he would be screaming NO
    NO , wait THATS ME . IF you do that I WONT be BORN . Exactly stan . exactly . Lets not pretend its not life
    Cause if ONLY one had a time machine and each supporter of abortion was presented this same case , HOW Much you all
    bet they would not be supporting the end of that pregnancy . Exactly . But cause its anothers life , OH well it dont really matter too much
    Does it . Its murder peroid . And if i had a time machine and took you to the day you were conceived , I bet you WOULD try and stop me .
    WELL the babies cant defend themselves . SO the true christains will defend them .
     
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    amigo de christo Well-Known Member

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    And let us ask the simple questions . I bet if i took anyone who supported abortion
    back to the day they were even first conceived and then said , okay i am giving mama a pill now that will end that pregancy
    or never even let it take place , THEY would cry in holy fear and beg me and plead with me , and say on bended knees
    OH DONT DO IT , YOU WILL END MY LIFE . YEAH , ever heard there are not too many athiests in foxholes
    WELL i bet their would not be one pro abortion , BEING PRO abortion on that day . ITS Hyprocrisy . Folks tell them selves
    anything to be able to beleive a lie and feel comfortable . BUT let it be THEM and SEE what they DO THEN . exactly .
     
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  8. marksman

    marksman My eldest granddaughter showing the result of her

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    So true they make up fairy stories as they go along because what they believe is rubbished by concrete evidence.
     
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    TLHKAJ Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for starting this thread. It is very important to get the truth out there.

    I have something to share that relates, but is probably very different than most who have had an abortion.

    I have shared elsewhere on the forum that I was born into multigenerational SRA and MK ultra. Another poster said that the abortion table may as well be an altar to satan....well, it is.

    I want to first try to briefly explain the dynamics of what happens when a child is born into trauma from day one. Their mind learns to cope and survive by splitting into alternate personalities so that the experience and knowledge of those traumas are locked away and the front/host personality can go on and function in everyday life as if it didn't happen....almost.

    I say "almost" because although the memories of being forced to endure late term abortion were locked away, I still suffered persistent effects of it. I had five beautiful children, and yet I always had the feeling that someone/s was missing. I would look at my children's faces and scan them...thinking they're not all here...count them, recount them....one, two, three, four, five...all here ...but why still do I feel like someone's missing?? It never made sense....

    Until one day, those memories came flooding back. It took weeks for the memories to fully come back when I was in my mid_30's. First, I felt grief ...sadness, sorrow. I would be hit with such deep overwhelming grief, it was like being punched in the gut. My husband would come home from work to find me doubled over in the bed, holding my belly, weeping so hard that I could hardly catch a breath, let alone speak to explain what was happening. And honestly, I didn't know what was happening.

    That went on for a couple weeks ...then one day, I was watching (of all things) America's Funniest Videos with my middle daughter. One clip came on that showed a woman in the kitchen, cutting up a chicken to cook. On the counter was one of those "magic 8" balls. All the sudden, I began to feel nauseous, an urgency to leave the room...because I didn't want my daughter to see her mother out of sorts. I excused myself and went to my room....and that same overwhelming grief hit me. Then, the memories came...

    I was on a table, and I could see medical equipment. I'm given something orally and I feel contractions. I begin to feel an urge to push, but I fight it, knowing that if I do, I am pushing my baby into the hands of his murderer. But I cannot fight the urges much longer, and I push. The doctor "delivers" a dead mutilated chicken from my vagina. I am horrified. Then, he takes his forceps and pulls my baby son from my body ...he was small, but near full term... idk if I want to say more.... :'(

    I was 10 years old. And others were taken after that. :(

    Now, it made sense why that with each of my five children I raised, I would be fine until somewhere around 6 months or so. I'd begin to have this recurring nightmare. In it, I'd dream that I'm pregnant. I look down at my belly and smile...I can see movements, and feel so much love. I then see baby's hand like an imprint through my belly, and I put my finger there to touch baby's hand. Baby's hand grasps my finger and I feel so much love. But then, my baby slips out of me...and they are so small and bloody, mangled.... :'(

    I never understood why until those memories surfaced. And after I have the memories, the overwhelming need to scan faces and count my children stopped.

    Now, I know that this was a favorite practice of Joseph Mengele, who passed this down to those MK programmers he trained and mentored, like Lt. Col. Michael Aquino. Mengele loved traumatizing girls by making it look like he was delivering an animal before he took the child...

    Anyway ...all that to say, that even when someone has locked away the knowledge of her abortion for years ....the effects are still there. For years, I suffered with fears around pregnancies and babies. It finally made sense.

    @Ron Coates @APAK @Hidden In Him @Prayer Warrior @Heart2Soul .... Tagging y'all for emotional support....
     
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    TLHKAJ Well-Known Member

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    You are correct ... I'll check your other thread.
     
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    TLHKAJ Well-Known Member

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    AMEN!! That's what's been going over and over in my mind as I've read through this thread...God says that life is in the blood....period. But also, this is a verse that speaks very plainly to the abortion issue. God actually instructs us what to choose.

    Deuteronomy 30:19

    19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

     
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    As a side note ...when the Lord was working healing in my heart related to this, I saw my baby son with Jesus. And I learned my son's name .....Isaac. (There is more to this, because the cult loves to mock Scripture and to twist it for their perverted purposes.) The alter personality who held those memories was named ....Sarah.
    But the Lord redeems and heals.
     
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    Brother, your passion for justice is very commendable. I can appreciate it very much. But I'd like to say that ...#1, I do feel sadness for those who refused truth and salvation through Christ, and I know that God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked. Nonetheless, He is a just God and rewards us according to our deeds.... and #2, not all women (and girls) who have had abortions do so willingly...such was the case with me, and many others like myself. It would be wonderful if you could show the same passion and compassion for those who were forced to endure abortions against their wills (and also for those women who had abortions and later regret it).

    Blessings, AJ
     
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    Would you say that pedophilia is wrong?
     
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    thank you for shareing your testmonies, this has been so touching & inspireing
     
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    TLHKAJ Well-Known Member

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    The Word of God calls "the fruit of the womb" .... "LIFE."

    Exodus 21:22-25
    22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
    23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
    24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
    25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.


    Here, we see that if two men are striving together and a pregnant woman is stricken, causing the baby to miscarry ...the father of that child was to state the penalty that would be exacted upon the other man for the loss of his child. IF, after the woman was stricken and "mischief followed" (showing intent of murder/malice) then the penalty was "LIFE for LIFE."
     
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    Sending lots of (((( hugs )))) your way ....thank you for your bravery in sharing your experience.
     
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    TLHKAJ Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, and God bless you❤️
     
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    Hey there...
    I know that God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked.
    I disagree.

    not all women (and girls) who have had abortions do so willingly...such was the case with me, and many others like myself.
    I guess you fall into one of the categories that people put forward to justify abortion. For one I take exception even with the word abortion being applied to humans. I believe it is more applicable to animals.... The intent of the word is to soften the implications of the deed. When a baby is killed, it is killed...there is no mystery there, no grey area.

    Still there is a difference between killing and murdering. Murder is unjustified killing. That is why we do not refer to God as a murderer in the OT. The question is, how do you justify killing a baby, while it is in the womb or a few minutes later when it is out of the womb? What would be the circumstances that would justify killing a baby? Is such a circumstance possible? Most certainly! But it would probably account for one or two over decades. And it is a choice to kill. The choice aborts the pregnancy, but it kills the baby. Most people do not have to face choosing one life over another, that is a horrible scenario in itself. But that choice would be made in a hospital under a doctor's care. A sad event for sure and in those extremely rare cases, not the fault of the mother.

    Compassion....for the vast majority of abortions....not a chance! I think most people cannot comprehend large numbers. The magnitude of over 600,000 babies murdered year after year in the United States...then worldwide...Oh my! The character of a medical team that could do this day after day.... Do they have compassion? Seems more like the description of a monster! What compels a person to take up such a profession? The Spirit of Christ, or the hand of Satan?

    A dozen babies murdered should concern people. 600,000! Seems more like Satan Inc. You think God approves of that? You think God thinks that all that can be justified. As far as deaths go, no number in history, no war, no catastrophe can come close to this institutionalized evil. This Ruth stood against any attempt to stop this organized holocaust. Over her tenure, over 8 million babies murdered....And the people that are in league with the devil are the people that vote for the political party that supports it.
     
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    @Grailhunter , idk how you misinterpreted my words to mean that I think abortion is justifiable. That is the farthest from what I said. What I DID say is that not all who have undergone abortion did so by their own choice. I was forced...as was a young family member of mine (a cousin). And I know many many SRA/MK survivors who were forced to undergo abortions at young ages.
    Many women who "chose" to get abortions were under duress, and/or given false information about the life they were carrying. There are all sorts of reasons here for compassion. NEVER to diminish the sanctity of the lives of the unborn ...but there is such a thing as regret and repentance ...and so many who feel they do not deserve forgiveness, but Jesus says otherwise. We ALL have been in need of the Savior. All.... ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

    Now, to those who go and get abortions, knowingly killing their babies and mock at it ...and those "doctors" who profit from shedding innocent blood and love doing so .....that's a different story altogether. I do hope for justice and an end to the murders. God knows and sees ....and unless they repent, they will not escape judgment for what they've done.
     
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