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Ronald Nolette

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There's a lot of ways that Bibles and study materials are smuggled into there... you just mentioned one.
I don't want to so openly discuss the details because I am still fearful for a lot of people involved.

Christianity is a growing religion in china even with the current crackdowns.

We are hoping that things get better...I'm unsure of how that is going to happen though.

Currently there's a ton of hostility between Hong Kong, Taiwan and PRC.
America has gotten itself involved and it's only stirring the pot.
India is also in increased tensions over Border issues with PRC.
(There's other border issues going on as well besides India)

So...
I don't know how long this thing is going to last... what America will do if it boils over.

I can tell you that China needs the American marketplace. European and African markets aren't substantial enough.

China needs us much more than we need them.

Well if current numbersd are accurate, they say that as many as 10,000 chinese give their lives to Christ daily! The Chinese church knows Evangleism!
 
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Well if current numbersd are accurate, they say that as many as 10,000 chinese give their lives to Christ daily! The Chinese church knows Evangleism!
Chinese people tend to "break all rules" without hesitation as if they aren't even there...
And that in itself has made Christianity be so popular.
Then the focus of true humility, long standing traditions, and "one of many" principles really speak volumes to the culture.

They have a "Back to Jerusalem" desire of evangelizing their way west until they get to Jerusalem itself...and doing it with millions of believers all taking part.
 
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Nope, not "evil". They did what they did to keep people safe.

Unfortunately people have caught covid-19 from going to Church, that's a reason why they were closed.

At the moment Churches are now allowed outdoor services with a limited number of people, I believe the limit was increased from 5 to 10 on Monday.

They will return, when Covid is over.

Yep, it's all for safety and about our own good, like when they round us up and put us in camps for our protection.
 
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Josho, you're starting to sound like a liberal politician. Deny deny deny.

Amen. Let us free, we aren't stupid. In 68-69 there was a bad epidemic here, were they dumb enough to shut everything down? No, they washed hands, disinfected things, and were careful. It is stupid how these idiot liberals are treating us like prisoners
 
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Josho, you're starting to sound like a liberal politician. Deny deny deny.

Amen. Let us free, we aren't stupid. In 68-69 there was a bad epidemic here, were they dumb enough to shut everything down? No, they washed hands, disinfected things, and were careful. It is stupid how these idiot liberals are treating us like prisoners
 

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Amen. Let us free, we aren't stupid. In 68-69 there was a bad epidemic here, were they dumb enough to shut everything down? No, they washed hands, disinfected things, and were careful. It is stupid how these idiot liberals are treating us like prisoners

Thank You historyb. The Patriots and true remnant believers need to unify like never before. Let's stick together.
 
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Josho

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Neither do I
but you deny that it's being used to control us.

Well what about this point of view?

Perhaps the longer the restrictions, the more chance of a global revival and a mega turning to Christ?

Or we can end the restrictions, more people die, and people go back to their wild ways, as a result fast-tracking the downfall of the world?

Which would you rather?

In all truth the way it was before the pandemic, the Christian percentage of populations was falling in many countries around the Western World, so would you like to go back to the way things were before the pandemic?
 

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Well what about this point of view?

Perhaps the longer the restrictions, the more chance of a global revival and a mega turning to Christ?

Or we can end the restrictions, more people die, and people go back to their wild ways, as a result fast-tracking the downfall of the world?

Which would you rather?

In all truth the way it was before the pandemic, the Christian percentage of populations was falling in many countries around the Western World, so would you like to go back to the way things were before the pandemic?

The ends don't justify the means Josho.
They are trying to take away freedom and it ends with slavery and death.
 
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It's temporary because Christ will come back and put an end to it.
Should we then welcome the new world order and mark of the beast?

It's temporary because there is an actual pandemic going on and we need to keep each other safe. Things should be back to some normality after the threat of a coronavirus pandemic goes away.

This is nothing compared to the Tribulation, and the Tribulation has to start first before the beast of the sea and land rise.
 

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It's temporary because there is an actual pandemic going on and we need to keep each other safe. Things should be back to some normality after the threat of a coronavirus pandemic goes away.

This is nothing compared to the Tribulation, and the Tribulation has to start first before the beast of the sea and land rise.

The control is temporary because it's a pandemic? Not very logical.

The powers that be are using the pandemic to condition us.
It starts with masks, social distancing, and it progresses to more control until they Institute the mark of the beast.

These are the birth pains of matt 24

Everything they are doing is right from the communist playbook.
Are you familiar with communism?
Common man, read a history book.
 

Josho

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The powers that be are using the pandemic to condition us.
It starts with masks, social distancing, and it progresses to more control until they Institute the mark of the beast.

Maskes and social distancing have got nothing to do with it.