Freed : From Calvinism and HyperCalvinism )Tulip<>5 Pont.

[Behold]

The Holy Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children ,

I asked you to respond to my Specific Post. 2x
You can't because it denies your Calvinism., and it always will, as the TRUE Gospel, and the Truth regarding God accepting OUR FAITH, is always going to expose your Hyper Calvinism, and Brightframes, and Ronald Nolettes, as your deception.

This will never change, as Truth will not make exceptions for Lies.

Calvinism and especially Hyper Calvinism, is a SATANIC Teaching., and you need to get far far away from it.

 

[Ritajanice]

try again @Ritajanice , and dont dodge this again...., as Members are watching you, just as they are watching me try to help you.

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Lets say you have never trusted in Christ, and are not born again, and you have not been on a Calvinist Forum, before.

You are just a woman... an unbeliever.

So, outside your home, on the Street, im preaching... in the middle of November, at 9am.

And you come outside...,. curious.

I say to the small crowd that has gathered....."All have sinned, there is none righteous,.. no not one> and then i Preach....."""Jesus has died for our sin, and He is risen from the dead". "All who will believe In Jesus, shall be saved"..

And the Holy Spirit speaks to your heart, and your are caused to understand that what i have told you, is the TRUTH..

So, at that point, you have come '"to the Knowledge of the TRUTH">.. as the HS has enlightened you to understand that what i am preaching is TRUE...,,, Just like it is right now..... Reader.

So, will you believe by faith.. and trust in Christ ????.......or will you do what some do that Jesus defined as..."You REFUSE to come to me... so that you may have eternal life".

A.) You get to choose.

None of thi is Biblical m therefore I rebuke it.. in the Name Of Jesus.

 

[Behold]

None of thi is Biblical m therefore I rebuke it.. in the Name Of Jesus.

You can be so ridiculous.

I told you already, that you can't successfully "rebuke" Truth........you can only kick against it and fail..

I asked you to respond to my Specific (previous) Post. 2x
You can't because it denies your Calvinism., and it always will, as the TRUE Gospel, and the Truth regarding God accepting OUR FAITH, is always going to expose your Hyper Calvinism, and Brightframes, and Ronald Nolettes, as your deception.

This will never change, as Truth will not make exceptions for Lies.

Calvinism and especially Hyper Calvinism, is a SATANIC Teaching., and you need to get far far away from it.

 

[Ritajanice]

I asked you to respond to my Specific Post. 2x
You can't because it denies your Calvinism., and it always will, as the TRUE Gospel, and the Truth regarding God accepting OUR FAITH, is always going to expose your Hyper Calvinism, and Brightframes, and Ronald Nolettes, as your deception.

This will never change, as Truth will not make exceptions for Lies.

You have no faith to give God just as his word says, faith is a supernatural gift from God...

God accepting our faith is non Biblical..as has been proven to you time and time again.

No one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Living Holy Spirit ..Praise God, plus it’s biblical.

 

[Behold]

Lets look deeper now., into this "Doctrine of Devils" that started with Calvin, and was evolved into Hyper-Calvinism (TULIP) "the 5 points".

A "TULIP"> a hyper calvinist, a "5-point">.. is one who believes in Calvinism = extremism .

So, both the Calvinist and the Hyper, have been led to believe that Paul the Apostle is a Calvinist. a 5 Point Hyper Calvinist.
And that is what they TEACH and BELIEVE.

So, lets look at that, and then i'll show you one more, in the next post..

First, lets understand why a person goes to hell and not to heaven..
Its simply because they "died in their sin, never forgiven", and were never born again. So, they died separated from God, by their Sin..
So, that situation, does not allow you to go to Heaven, because you were not forgiven all your sin.... born 'In Christ" as "one with God", before you died.
This is why Jesus told us.....>"YOU, MUST, be born again", and if you are not you are not a Son/Daughter of God when you died, and so your eternity is spent, where those who are not born again Sons/Daughters of God, end up... and that is not in Heaven......
There is only one other option. : HELL.

 

[Behold]

Now, Calvin and the Hyper-Calvinist, teach that Paul is a 5-point Hyper Calvinist, as they teach that a few verses that Paul wrote, that they SEE as meaning what Calvin teaches and others who evolved Calvins theology in Hyper-Calvinism.., proves that Paul is a Calvinist, and a Hyper Calvinist.
They believe that a few of Paul's verses teach the 5-points of Hyper- Calvinism as well as Calvinism.

So, listen now.... as you have to see this... in your understanding.

If Paul is a Calvinist, then Jesus is a Calvinist....... as Paul RECEIVED all His Theology "not from any man, but from the LORD", Himself.
So, If Paul is a Calvinist, then Jesus is a Calvinist., according to Calvinism and Hyper Calvinism that is "the 5 Points"..(TULIP).

Therefore, if Paul and The Lord Jesus The Christ are both Calvinists, then they will understand "pre-destined" to believe."
They will understand "pre-chosen" to believe"
They will understand "God causes you to believe or you can't".
And they will teach that always.

 

[Behold]

Now, lets look at some Verses..

1.) "their remainth no more sacrifice for your sin" because you have "willfully sinned", the sin of UNBELIEF... "just as your Father's did".

So, those verses are Hebrews 6 & 10.. .and this one..

“'"You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You ALWAYS RESIST the HOLY Spirit.!""""

So, Lying Hyper Calvinism, teaches that this isn't possible, as you have no free will..
Yet if the Forum member can read, you Just read PAUL tell Christ rejectors, that "THEY...ALWAYS resist the Holy Spirit."
This means that Paul is one confused Calvinist, Hyper Calvinist, or that Calvinism and the "5-points" (TULIP) is a "doctrine of Devils"., as Paul just blamed them for their "resisting the Holy Spirit" that the '5-points" of Hyper Calvinism, says isn't possible.

Now when you read that "you always RESIST THE HOLY SPIRIT", then that is "you are resisting the Truth, that is the Gospel being revealed to you".., and that is also Hebrews 10".. ."If you willfully sin"...(will not believe in Jesus, willfully) there remainth no more JESUS FOR YOU... "there remaineth no more SACRIFICE for your SIN." because of your Willful decision to reject the Sacrifice who is JESUS ON THE CROSS.

So, then If Paul is the "5-point" Hyper Calvinist, who teaches that "you can't choose Christ unless you are caused to believe by the HS"............. then Paul just lied when He taught us that = THEY Resisted the Holy Spirit = Willfully........as does every Christ Rejector.

Notice that Paul didnt say..>>"well, dont worry about it, because you were just not chosen to believe".

Look now at Acts 28:28... as this is actually Hebrews 10... in the Book of the "ACTS of the Apostles."
Paul said to UNBELIEVING JEWS........>>"I will take the Gospel to the Gentiles, and they will Believe it".
So, if these JEWS were "pre-chosen" to not be the "5-Point, Hyper-Calvin" "chosen to believe" .. then you notice that Paul didnt say... "no worries, you can't believe because you are not of the chosen to believe"..

Reader, why did Paul forget all his Hyper-Calvinism, and "TULIP"< "5-points" in these Verses?

A.) Its because Paul is not a Calvinst.. Paul is not a "5-Point " TULIP... = Deceiver.

 

[GodsGrace]

And working hard to act like behold and hurl your pre-pubescent insults simply demeans you.

I follow jesus and His Word. You have yet to show one solid scripture verse as to why the five points that are called Calvinism are false. YOu have just given reviews and opinions.

But my Question for you is, can you even defend your belief in the five points of Jacob Arminius that you adhere to? There is no middle ground or thirds alternative in this discussion. One either accepts TULIP all or in part or accepts the five points of Arminius.

I have at least posted many verses to show why "the five points of Calvinism" are biblical.

so far all you have done is disagree without showing from Scripture why.

This is very intellectually dishonest of you.
I spent half an hour posting a proper exegesis of Romans 9 and neither YOU nor anyone else responded to it.

So let's go down the five points and see what happens.
BTW,,,,I don't know who Arminius is...
I don't follow any MAN....

I follow Jesus the Christ and those whom He appointed to teach me about Him.

1. Total depravity: Man is UNABLE to seek God because He is totally depraved in every sense and in every way.

Here are verses that will PROVE beyond any doubt that MAN HAS THE ABILITY to seek God....
in fact...man is COMMANDED to seek God.
Please explain away the following verses IF YOU CAN....
and post some that prove beyond any doubt that man is unable to seek God.
Thanks.

MAN IS ABLE AND COMMANDED TO SEEK GOD:

Matthew 6:33
But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

Hebrews 11:6
for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.

Matthew 7:7-8
seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened.

James 4:8
Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you

Matthew 13:45-46
the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant in search of fine pearls, who, on finding one pearl of great value, went and sold all that he had and bought it.

1 Chronicles 16:11
Seek the Lord and his strength; seek his presence continually!

Proverbs 8:17
I love those who love me, and those who seek me diligently find me.

Psalm 9:10
And those who know your name put their trust in you, for you, O Lord, have not forsaken those who seek you.


There's a lot more but that should be sufficient.

Now...what do those verses up there mean to you?
From those verses do you understand that man is UNABLE to seek God?
Perhaps you could explain them to us?


And, perhaps you could post some verses that state that it's impossible for man to seek God because he is so depraved.

 

[GodsGrace]

And you lead people no where. Which by default sends them to the lake of fire.

You are unable to show from Scripture why you think the five points are not biblical nor are you able to from Scripture post why believe your five pits of Arminiansm is biblical.

Empty words from an empty soul

Wow. Why waste time responding to you!
Behold has listed more verses than you ever will !
Everyone on this thread uses scripture EXCEPT for the Calvinists !
And those they DO use do NOT support their belief system because they're easily explained away.

Is all you can do insult persons?

Will wait for your reply to my verses showing how God wishes for mankind to SEEK HIM and how both the NT and the OT affirm this.
Thanks.

 

[GodsGrace]

The Holy Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children , as he’s indwelling us and birthing us in the Spirit..your hearing as you call it, is not how we are Born Of The Spirit.

Your faith in God is zero ,as you can’t possibly know him, not until he has gifted you supernatural faith...plus what I say is Biblical.

You cannot teach how to be Born Of The Spirit...your teaching is flawed and that of a heretic.

Plus your understanding of scripture is extremely limited ..you have very little understanding of spiritual matters.

The above is not for me.
But PLEASE don't refer to those that teach biblical doctrine heretics.


A heretic is a person that comes along 1,500 years AFTER JESUS ascended and teaches theology that
WAS NOT PRESENT WHEN JESUS LIVED....was not taught by Him....by those that wrote the NT,,,,or even by those that were taught by those that wrote the NT.

IOW,,,,,it's the NEW teaching that is heretical....
NOT the old teaching.

Please....let's find out what heretical means since many misunderstand what it means.
It's not an insult....
it means that something was not taught by the NT writers.....
If YOU believe what the NT did NOT write...
then YOU are the heretic....
not the person that believes the NT writers, AND JESUS.

 

[Behold]

You have no faith to give God just as his word says, faith is a supernatural gift from God...

Look at this ... from Paul

Ephesians 1:13.... (KJV)​

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1.) """In (JESUS) ... whom ye also trusted, after you heard the word of truth,"""....= (that is the Gospel) being given and a person hears it.


2.) """" the gospel of your salvation:""", .........= .is Paul's Gospel, only.


3.) "" in whom also after that ye believed,""""" ......... = Notice that you HEARD it... and then you BELIEVED after HEARING the Gospel...



AND THEN.....:


4.) "ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,""""................... = = Born again

 

[Ritajanice]

Matthew 6:33
But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

Once you become Born Again can you do this.

Hebrews 11:6
for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.

Same as I posted above.

Matthew 7:7-8
seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened.

We seek God with our heart more and more , once we are Born Again.

James 4:8
Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you

True, we draw near to God in spirit once we are Born Again.

Matthew 13:45-46
the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant in search of fine pearls, who, on finding one pearl of great value, went and sold all that he had and bought it.

The Kingdom Of Heaven/God...can only be known in our spirit.

1 Chronicles 16:11
Seek the Lord and his strength; seek his presence continually!

Yup..once Born Again.

Proverbs 8:17
I love those who love me, and those who seek me diligently find me.

Amen...once we are Born Again.

Psalm 9:10
And those who know your name put their trust in you, for you, O Lord, have not forsaken those who seek you.

Of course we know his name...no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.

This scripture is speaking to the Born Again..not non believers.

 

[GodsGrace]

None of thi is Biblical m therefore I rebuke it.. in the Name Of Jesus.

This is pretty funny stuff.
You rebuke in the name of Jesus?

You rebuke THE TRUTH in the name of Christ who IS TRUTH?

You can't rebuke anything...
You don't have the truth.

 

[Ritajanice]

Look at this ... from Paul

Ephesians 1:13.... (KJV)​

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1.) """In (JESUS) ... whom ye also trusted, after you heard the word of truth,"""" (that is the Gospel) being given and a person hears it.


2.) """" the gospel of your salvation:""", ..........is Paul's Gospel, only.


3.) "" in whom also after that ye believed,""""" ......... Notice that you HEARD it... and then you BELIEVED after HEARING the preaching...


4.) "ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,""""................... = Born again

If you heard, then you must be Born Again,...none of that scripture is referring to how we are Born Again.there is no Born Again in that scripture.

 

[GodsGrace]

Once you become Born Again can you do this.

Same as I posted above.

We seek God with our heart more and more , once we are Born Again.

True, we draw near to God in spirit once we are Born Again.

The Kingdom Of Heaven/God...can only be known in our spirit.

Yup..once Born Again.


Amen...once we are Born Again.


Of course we know his name...no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.

This scripture is speaking to the Born Again..not non believers.

Here's a simple question for you:

WHY SEEK GOD AFTER YOU'RE BORN AGAIN?

If you lose a watch....
and then you find it.....

Do you SEEK IT AFTER you've found it?

 

[Ritajanice]

This is pretty funny stuff.
You rebuke in the name of Jesus?

You rebuke THE TRUTH in the name of Christ who IS TRUTH?

You can't rebuke anything...
You don't have the truth.

I also rebuke in the Name Of Jesus..what you say here.in Jesus Name, Amen.

 

[GodsGrace]

If you heard, then you must be Born Again,...none of that scripture is referring to how we are Born Again.there is no Born Again in that scripture.

The deaf will not hear...
The blind will not see....

 

[Ritajanice]

Here's a simple question for you:

WHY SEEK GOD AFTER YOU'RE BORN AGAIN?

If you lose a watch....
and then you find it.....

Do you SEEK IT AFTER you've found it?

God wants us to seek more of him with our heart.

More knowledge about him via His Living Holy Spirit...my spirit needs to be fed from his Spirit.

I seek him out daily @GodsGrace ..I hunger for him to witness to my spirit his truth.

Oh yea of little spiritual understanding .. how do you think we grow in Spirit/ maturity @GodsGrace ...you need to know God in your heart, just as his word says...seek him out with all your heart and there you will find him seek more of spirit knowledge...

I’m shocked that you asked me, if your Born Again why would you need to seek him out....


well you can’t seek to know anything about him unless one is Born Again is my answer to you.

He has shown me that I am clothed in the righteousness of Christ....that I am a spirit child of the most...the list is endless...

Matthew 6:33King James Version (KJV) But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

 

[Ritajanice]

The deaf will not hear...
The blind will not see....

How do the blind see?

How do the deaf hear?

 

[GodsGrace]

I also rebuke in the Name Of Jesus..what you say here.in Jesus Name, Amen.

Rebuke all you want to.
God will not be pleased with those that CHANGED HIS CHARACTER......

In Calvinism God is NOT a loving God since He sees fit to throw persons into hell FOR NO REASON AT ALL.

In Calvinism God is NOT a merciful God because He passes over some and throws the rope of salvation to just a select few.

In Calvinism God is NOT a just God because He does not give to each person what they deserve since to some He shows mercy and to some He does not.

This is not justice.

Now let's look at the GOD OF THE BIBLE: The One you should be worshipping and are not.


GOD IS LOVE

Romans 5:8
8But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Ephesians 3:18
18may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 19and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God.

1 John 4:8
. 8The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love.


GOD IS MERCY

Ephesians 2:4-5
4But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us

Psalm 145:9
The Lord is good to all, and his mercy is over all that he has made.

2 Corinthians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,


GOD IS JUST

Deuteronomy 32:4
“The Rock, his work is perfect, for all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he.

Psalm 33:5
He loves righteousness and justice; the earth is full of the steadfast love of the Lord.

Isaiah 30:18
Therefore the Lord waits to be gracious to you, and therefore he exalts himself to show mercy to you. For the Lord is a God of justice; blessed are all those who wait for him.