I've stated I've never been in the organization, so I've never personally seen it. That goes for everyone in this thread, supposedly, so that's a wash.
I can't prove one way or the other, I've discussed possibilities. But neither can anyone else, correct?
So each of us only has the evidence that we input to conclude our view on the subject. This goes without saying.
What you're saying is a possibility. I once heard that satan was a double-agent for God - the sheriff for God, if you will. That could be true too, none of us here can prove that, correct?
That being said, for me, there's too much in their own symbols, in their own ways, as evidence, which adds up to the conclusion I have, although keeping enough of an open mind to weight new information either for or against my current belief(s).
Regarding their symbols, look at the Shriner's own logo. On their own website, their wearing hats with the sword on it and "Egypt" printed on them. This gives credence to the logo on the wikipedia page, which has the same sword, and a Pharoah picture (indicating Egypt). It is believable that their former name is "Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine (AAONMS, anagram for A MASON)". Ancient Arabia, Egypt, Shrine, these words do not relate to Christianity. Do you think they do?
And why a symbol of a sword, for a charity to help others? Does helping others medically in any way have anything to do with a weapon (and it's not a tool mind you, possibly like a scalpel)? Do you cure a disease with a gun? Or is the sword on their logo for a reason that is a deeper, hidden meaning to Freemasonry (oath and spill secrets and receive death penalty)?
By their own admission, they are not Christian, otherwise why would they use non-Christian ideas. They are the opposite of Christianity. Do you not agree?
If they are a self-admitted Freemason organization, then why the need to call themselves something different than Freemason? What other groups are under the umbrella of Freemasonry, and why the need to divide themselves? Is it to distract from the parent organization, is it just something fun to do, why not be what they are instead of being a part of something else? Is money the reason, like a corporation with different "branding" in subsidiaries? Of course, these questions don't answer anything conclusively alone.
So what other evidence do we have? The leaders of at least upper-tier Freemasonry have writings that are anti-Christ. Can you or I prove that these leaders are the actual leaders of Freemasonry? No, but we can't not prove it either, agreed? So that alone doesn't prove anything either, but if it is true, then the rest of the organization is part of that way. If it's not true, and is a distraction and someone is using those writings as a scapegoat, then we're left with the rest of the information about that group.
Its symbols. The group self-admits the symbols it uses, do you agree? What is the history of those symbols? What's the meaning behind them? Is the "two pillars" just two pillars or does it mean something deeper. Do some/all lodges have black and white checkered floors because they got a bulk or group discount on tiles, or do they also have a deeper meaning. How about the square and compass, the great architect: on the surface, doesn't sound bad at all. But is there a deeper meaning behind that too. How about their "secret password", which I've heard is "Tubal-Cain": who was Cain? The first murderer, possibly said to have been influenced by satan to build his jealousy of his brother Abel who God was looking upon as doing right - Cain rejected by God, and spilled blood, his own brother's blood, because of it. Can I prove this, no; can you not prove this?
At it's core, the group self-admittedly accepts members from all religious backgrounds. We don't even know if it's true that one must believe in a diety of some sort, possibly even the Flying Spaghetti Monster, heh. Either way, people with many religious backgrounds gather together and "hang out". Are Christians within this group trying to convert other members to Christianity, or again, are they just "hanging out"? Are we as Christians called to have concord with unbelievers or satanic believers (muslim, hindu, satanism, etc.)? Jesus stated not to fight, but he also said have no concord with those against him, do you not agree?
And what about other groups, as mentioned in this thread. Skull & Bones. Doesn't the name say it all there? That sounds like they are in agreement with Death. Isn't Jesus against Death, against having those end in Hell, which is where Death without Eternal Life leads?
Knights of Colombus and Knights of Malta. Are we Christians called to be knights? Why wasn't Peter and Paul called "knights of Jesus Christ"? Neither killed after they were born again. Paul repented of the blood on his hands, he didn't stand behind it, nor the type of role a "knight" is.
Then you have the Knights Templar, and that's a whole other story, as well, depending on one's view of Catholicism.
How about the families of this world, Rothchilds, Medi (where we get the word "medicine" from), Windsor, etc. Are they really just good people that satan/satanists says are bad and are being setup? Possibly. I don't know one of them personally. Do you? Can you say definitively either?
Then that just leaves countries of this world. With 3/4 of this world being anti-Christ, we know they are of the enemy, by who they stand for.
So then why would these other groups splinter off from the main facet which is religion that binds almost everyone else? Why would the Freemasons be called the Freemasons instead of just part of a branch of Christianity? Same with Skull and Bones? Why aren't they just Catholics, Protestants, Reformationists, or Non-denominationalists? Why the division?
So how do you know these groups are not not of the enemy? What evidence do you have that the enemy is behind the distraction to these groups?
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