Freemasonry

[4Jesus]

Am I reading this correctly? Are some people now saying that the Masons flew those aircraft into those buildings?

If you're talking about me, then no, satanists organized and executed the attacks to the towers in NYC. How and who specifically executed the attacks, beyond the people that were named and caught, I can't prove.

My point was that symbols used in Freemasonry and Kabbalahism could possibly be found on the date and location of one of the attacks, indicating it could've been a mass satanic sacrifice by whoever organized and executed the attack.

 

[4Jesus]

I wouldn't necessarily say the Masons, more like the Illuminati?

SG mentioned Bush being Skull & Bones, so it could've been any one of them. The link between all those groups is satanism, at least in leadership of those groups.

 

[4Jesus]

"I don't believe that God wants us to be

a) stupid
b) uninformed
c) too trusting
d) too preoccupied with things of the world as many are"

Amen sister! Indoctrinated by the propaganda. They have their base, and pander shamelessly to them.
Many believe that they are right and choosing the "Godly" candidate and it is the party line every time...
Why do Republicans believe that ALL Democrats are for abortion? Or, gay marriage? That is so far from the truth. But, I guess we love to label people groups like, they all believe the same way. All we are to do for our "leaders", biblicaly speaking, is to pray and pay. 'Give unto Caesars...Pray for all in authority'..." that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness." It seems the corruptness is already at the core. This world is anything but peaceful, quiet, or godly/holy
It does not matter anyhow as, God allows all who are in authority only because He puts them there for His reasons. Jmho

I don't understand the thinking that a lot of Republicans hold a "you're with us or against us" mentality to the line between political party affiliation; one or the other, there is no in-between. It seems like it is putting politics before Jesus. I don't remember too far back, was it Reagan when it started, or before that?

I agree, pray for the leaders, but that doesn't necessarily mean support them either. One can pray for someone they don't support.

 

[Willie T]

If you're talking about me, then no, satanists organized and executed the attacks to the towers in NYC. How and who specifically executed the attacks, beyond the people that were named and caught, I can't prove.

You wonder why I oppose you Conspiracists and your ridiculous rhetoric. (SG calls it "abusing.") This "quoted paragraph" is why. You people know absolutely nothing more than anyone else does, yet you state your foolishness like it is a solid fact.

Fanatics just can't seem to think or speak rationally.

 

[4Jesus]

You wonder why I oppose you Conspiracists and your ridiculous rhetoric. (SG calls it "abusing.") This "quoted paragraph" is why. You people know absolutely nothing more than anyone else does, yet you state your foolishness like it is a solid fact.

Fanatics just can't seem to think or speak rationally.

Who says I "wonder". I don't wonder, you've called me a "conspiracy nut" before.

I just don't care. I'll respond to you, but that's about it. Ok, you don't think so, I'm not trying to change your perspective.

As for "abusing" me, if you don't know the difference in opposing someone and abusing someone (apparently they are linked in your view), I can understand why you would think this way.

I never stated it was a fact, I clearly stated I can't prove who it was outside of who was named and those who were caught. I said it's possible that that date and location was picked due to symbols some groups believe in - I can't prove it though, nor suggested it.

So once again you are putting words in my mouth. Yet again. Are you having fun arguing with your imaginary friend again Willie, because I didn't state the words that you are accusing me of - that is false accusation from you...

And aren't you here stating that what we are stating isn't a fact (which we admit to, evident by the many, many statements we made citing that these are possibilities) but what you are stating is a fact (that these groups are not involved, when you don't know if they were any more or less than we do)? That's hypocritical, no?

 

[Willie T]

Who says I "wonder". I don't wonder, you've called me a "conspiracy nut" before.

I just don't care. I'll respond to you, but that's about it. Ok, you don't think so, I'm not trying to change your perspective.

As for "abusing" me, if you don't know the difference in opposing someone and abusing someone (apparently they are linked in your view), I can understand why you would think this way.

I never stated it was a fact, I clearly stated I can't prove who it was outside of who was named and those who were caught. I said it's possible that that date and location was picked due to symbols some groups believe in - I can't prove it though, nor suggested it.

So once again you are putting words in my mouth. Yet again. Are you having fun arguing with your imaginary friend again Willie, because I didn't state the words that you are accusing me of - that is false accusation from you...

And aren't you here stating that what we are stating isn't a fact (which we admit to, evident by the many, many statements we made citing that these are possibilities) but what you are stating is a fact (that these groups are not involved, when you don't know if they were any more or less than we do)? That's hypocritical, no?

Saying emphatically, "This is what happened!, but I can't prove it."... is a pitifully weak place to stand unless you are speaking in faith about God. And, you are far from doing that here.

 

[Enoch111]

I don't understand the thinking that a lot of Republicans hold a "you're with us or against us" mentality to the line between political party affiliation; one or the other, there is no in-between.

This is not peculiar to Republicans at all. And today even more so, the lines are clearly drawn. The Democrats and RINOs have become Socialistic-Anarchists. The days of "in-between" are over. Even Russia would lock them all up.

It seems like it is putting politics before Jesus.

Politics was never about Jesus, or putting the welfare and security of citizens above self-interest.

 

[Willie T]

I honestly don't know for sure..... Did the Towers fall like THIS commercial demolition, each bottom floor imploding while all the upper floors above it stayed intact...….. or did the building crumple the opposite, from the upper floors, downward?

This second video, footage of the Twin Towers, looks like it might be just the opposite of the first video, the Twin Towers collapsing, instead, from the top, down..... but I'm not sure. What do you see?

 

[Nancy]

SG mentioned Bush being Skull & Bones, so it could've been any one of them. The link between all those groups is satanism, at least in leadership of those groups.

It all boils down to the works of Satan...no matter who on this earth is responsible.

 

[Willie T]

A little True/False test:

Do Not Be Fooled

This is a simple true or false test to get things started. Award yourself 10 points on the score card in the back of this book for each correct true or false answer. Complete the entire test before checking your answers.

If you know the answers, KEEP QUIET, don't ruin it for everyone else.

1._____ The phrase "This too shall pass" is in the Bible.

2. _____ Eve bit into the forbidden apple in the Garden of Eden.

3._____ "Spare the rod, spoil the child" is a biblical teaching on child raising.

4._____ "God works in mysterious ways" is from the book of Proverbs.

5._____ One of the most-quoted Bible verses is "Cleanliness is next to godliness."

6_____. Three wise men visited Jesus on the day of his birth.

7._____ "The Little Drummer Boy" Christmas song is based on the boy drummer in Micah.

8._____ According to the book that bears his name, Jonah was
in the belly of a whale for three days and three nights.

9. ____ Satan took the form of a serpent when he tempted Eve in the Garden of Eden.

10________ -God helps those who help themselves" is in the boot of Psalms.

11. _______ -Money is the root of all evil" is a classic Bible verse\
concerning placing money above God.

12._______ Jesus Christ himself said, "To thine own self be true."

13______ The apostle Paul said, "Love the sinner, hate the sin."

14_____ The wise men visited the baby Jesus in the manger.

15_______ There was one set of the Ten Commandments given to Moses.

 

[4Jesus]

Saying emphatically, "This is what happened!, but I can't prove it."... is a pitifully weak place to stand unless you are speaking in faith about God. And, you are far from doing that here.

Please quote my post where I stated "this is what happened!", and emphatically, as you stated I did.

If not, this is one more example of you being a false accuser. You put words in my mouth that I didn't say, then you direct your attack to me as if I did.

You are making up a conversation that didn't occur, yet again.

Please post the "pitifully weak" stance due to emphatically (or without emphasis even) stating that it is a fact, which you accuse me of having.

And after all of this explanation to you, you stated I was a/one of the "Fanatics just can't seem to think or speak rationally." And yet here I am, this "fanatic", who has proven that you are a false accuser, yet again.

I think this might be getting into projection territory at this point Willie...

 

[4Jesus]

This is not peculiar to Republicans at all. And today even more so, the lines are clearly drawn. The Democrats and RINOs have become Socialistic-Anarchists. The days of "in-between" are over. Even Russia would lock them all up.

The post I was responding to when I wrote that was strictly discussing Republicans. I don't deny that some Democrats do this as well, nor stated it. Just because I didn't write it, doesn't mean I believe it to be true (nor hinted that it was true).

Politics was never about Jesus, or putting the welfare and security of citizens above self-interest.

That's why I said it seems as if some put politics before Jesus. Jesus is first, everything else all tied for last.

 

[brakelite]

Architects And Engineers - Solving The Mystery Of WTC 7 - Amazing Discoveries TV

Not sure if this will play...

 

[brakelite]

I don't think the powers that be who lied and destroyed evidence think the public are stupid... Although I would imagine they were surprised at the numbers who proved themselves to be so.
No, they know now, after testing the waters, that you are powerless. They can do whatever they like in the face of your Constitutional rights and know you can do nothing about it. Nearly 20 years now and you've had nothing but evasion and deaf ears. You may not have "proof" that 9/11 was a hoax... But you know that the contrived BS that you were given by the government does not fit the eye witness accounts nor does the official story harmonise with logic and known science. We also know that a dozen or so middle eastern fanatics didn't hatch this idea up on a cave in the wilderness of Afghanistan on a lap top and carry out the whole fiasco without help from an organised treasonous canal inside government and the media.

 

[brakelite]

And what had this to do with Freemasons?
Maybe nothing. Maybe much. What we do know is that whoever is responsible are traitors to the nation. Traitors who desire to dismantle the power of the people over government tyranny. We also know that the upper echelon of all secret societies have this as their principle agenda in establishing a one world government. And we know Freemasons, at least the higher levels of Freemasonry, are very much a part of that plan. So.. What had 9/11 to do with Freemasons? Likely a great deal.

 

[Nancy]

I don't think the powers that be who lied and destroyed evidence think the public are stupid... Although I would imagine they were surprised at the numbers who proved themselves to be so.
No, they know now, after testing the waters, that you are powerless. They can do whatever they like in the face of your Constitutional rights and know you can do nothing about it. Nearly 20 years now and you've had nothing but evasion and deaf ears. You may not have "proof" that 9/11 was a hoax... But you know that the contrived BS that you were given by the government does not fit the eye witness accounts nor does the official story harmonise with logic and known science. We also know that a dozen or so middle eastern fanatics didn't hatch this idea up on a cave in the wilderness of Afghanistan on a lap top and carry out the whole fiasco without help from an organised treasonous canal inside government and the media.

I think you meant "cabal"?
Speak it brother.

 

[brakelite]

I think you meant "cabal"?
Speak it brother.

Haha. Yes cabal indeed.

 

[Enoch111]

So.. What had 9/11 to do with Freemasons? Likely a great deal.

Quite the opposite. 9/11 had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Freemasons, since Freemasons have nothing to do with Radical Islamist Jihadists. Those who seek to deny that the destruction of those towers was a major coup for Radical Islam are probably being funded by the Jihadists to spread disinformation.

That incident changed the face of America (as well as North America). But the response was totally inappropriate. The billions of dollars which poured into Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan in fruitless warfare should have been poured into (a) building a SERIOUS wall at the southern border, (b) properly maximizing airport and port security with PROFILING of Muslims seeking entry into North America (rather than aggravating all travelers including little old ladies), (c) putting a total ban on immigration from the Arab world, (d) properly reviewing all Muslim immigrants from 1970 - 2001 to determine which were *sleepers* for their cause, and (e) making it a federal law that Muslims cannot be elected to office in America (since Christians would never be elected to office in any Muslim country). Furthermore, Saudi Arabia should have been put on notice, since those Jihadists were from there and funded by the Saudis.

Jihad is far from over, but it has taken another aspect altogether -- establishment of the Caliphate. Now Radical Muslims are working to subvert the West internally (while minimizing the impact of 9/11), by having Muslims run for office, establishing organization like C.A.I.R., and then undermine the Constitution and the Christian values which have prevailed. Not to mention constant attacks against Jews and Israel.

Republicans slam Ilhan Omar's comments about 9/11
..."Nearly 3,000 Americans were killed by terrorists on 9/11. It shouldn’t be this difficult for Ilhan Omar to understand why her “some people did something” comment was so offensive," wrote Republican chairwoman Ronna McDaniel in a Sunday Twitter post, attaching a clip of Omar's Sunday morning interview on CBS' "Face the Nation." ...

Republicans slam Ilhan Omar's comments about 9/11 following 'Face the Nation' interview

"It’s beyond troubling that there is someone in our government who is mocking Americans for being fearful of terrorist groups. The Somali refugee was an activist in her community when she mocked Americans."

 

[brakelite]

Quite the opposite. 9/11 had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Freemasons, since Freemasons have nothing to do with Radical Islamist Jihadists. Those who seek to deny that the destruction of those towers was a major coup for Radical Islam are probably being funded by the Jihadists to spread disinformation.

That incident changed the face of America (as well as North America). But the response was totally inappropriate. The billions of dollars which poured into Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan in fruitless warfare should have been poured into (a) building a SERIOUS wall at the southern border, (b) properly maximizing airport and port security with PROFILING of Muslims seeking entry into North America (rather than aggravating all travelers including little old ladies), (c) putting a total ban on immigration from the Arab world, (d) properly reviewing all Muslim immigrants from 1970 - 2001 to determine which were *sleepers* for their cause, and (e) making it a federal law that Muslims cannot be elected to office in America (since Christians would never be elected to office in any Muslim country). Furthermore, Saudi Arabia should have been put on notice, since those Jihadists were from there and funded by the Saudis.

Jihad is far from over, but it has taken another aspect altogether -- establishment of the Caliphate. Now Radical Muslims are working to subvert the West internally (while minimizing the impact of 9/11), by having Muslims run for office, establishing organization like C.A.I.R., and then undermine the Constitution and the Christian values which have prevailed. Not to mention constant attacks against Jews and Israel.

Republicans slam Ilhan Omar's comments about 9/11
..."Nearly 3,000 Americans were killed by terrorists on 9/11. It shouldn’t be this difficult for Ilhan Omar to understand why her “some people did something” comment was so offensive," wrote Republican chairwoman Ronna McDaniel in a Sunday Twitter post, attaching a clip of Omar's Sunday morning interview on CBS' "Face the Nation." ...

Republicans slam Ilhan Omar's comments about 9/11 following 'Face the Nation' interview

"It’s beyond troubling that there is someone in our government who is mocking Americans for being fearful of terrorist groups. The Somali refugee was an activist in her community when she mocked Americans."

So which of those jihadists flew a non-existent plane into the Pentagon?

Those who seek to deny that the destruction of those towers was a major coup for Radical Islam are probably being funded by the Jihadists to spread disinformation. So who are those working for who deny the government cover-up...deliberate destruction of evidence...and the continuing lies that officialdom keep spewing forth that a fire caused the collapse of the third building.

 

[Enoch111]

So which of those jihadists flew a non-existent plane into the Pentagon?

Who says it was *non-existent*? The quote below is from Wikipedia with sources indicated by footnotes.

Boarding and departure
On the morning of September 11, 2001, the five hijackers arrived at Washington Dulles International Airport. At 07:15, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Majed Moqed checked in at the American Airlines ticket counter for Flight 77,[22] arriving at the passenger security checkpoint a few minutes later at 07:18.[23] Both men set off the metal detector and were put through secondary screening. Moqed continued to set off the alarm, so he was searched with a hand wand.[24] The Hazmi brothers checked in together at the ticket counter at 07:29. Hani Hanjour checked in separately and arrived at the passenger security checkpoint at 07:35.[14] Hanjour was followed minutes later at the checkpoint by Salem and Nawaf al-Hazmi, who also set off the metal detector's alarm. The screener at the checkpoint never resolved what set off the alarm. As seen in security footage later released, Nawaf Hazmi appeared to have an unidentified item in his back pocket. Utility knives up to four inches were permitted at the time by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) as carry-on items.[22][24] The passenger security checkpoint at Dulles International Airport was operated by Argenbright Security, under contract with United Airlines.[25]

The hijackers were all selected for extra screening of their checked bags. Hanjour, al-Mihdhar, and Moqed were chosen by the Computer Assisted Passenger Prescreening System criteria, while the brothers Nawaf and Salem al-Hazmi were selected because they did not provide adequate identification and were deemed suspicious by the airline check-in agent. Hanjour, Mihdhar, and Nawaf al-Hazmi did not check any bags for the flight. Checked bags belonging to Moqed and Salem al-Hazmi were held until they boarded the aircraft.[21]

Flight 77 was scheduled to depart for Los Angeles at 08:10; 58 passengers boarded through Gate D26, including the five hijackers. The 53 other passengers on board excluding the hijackers were 26 men, 22 women, and five children ranging in age from three to eleven. On the flight, Hani Hanjour was seated up front in 1B, while Salem and Nawaf al-Hazmi were seated in first class in seats 5E and 5F. Majed Moqed and Khalid al-Mihdhar were seated further back in 12A and 12B, in economy class.[26]Flight 77 left the gate on time and took off from Runway 30 at Dulles at 08:20.[21]