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I mentioned previously 9/11. This was in connection to the article that @Soverign Grace posted. I am amazed at the complete lack of response to that article. Even if it was all hogwash, I thought there might be some sort of comment... But no. But it isn't all hogwash. In fact, I can personally attest from my own reading over the years that much of it is absolutely true. And there's more he didn't mention... For example the forced takeover Hawaii. Only 100 years ago! And still no comment. So I thought I would post this link. Yes, some would say another conspiracy theory. But as I said before, if there's sufficient evidence, the term theory should be tossed out. This is about a conspiracy. A conspiracy so obvious... so obnoxious... so evil... And so deeply entrenched and supported by government officials, bureaucrats, and the mainstream media, as to defy belief. And it has. Defied belief. But there are numerous highly intelligent, skilled, and educated people who see through the lies and the deceit. And many who don't. Anyway....
The 9-11 Event, The President, And The Militia

Hi BL,
Back in the first part of the 2000's, I used to listen to talk radio. There was a host on there who used to give her audience "homework" to do. The Right hate her guts. She gets taken to court but she ALWAYS wins. Blackwater even took her to court over their hired militia. It had to do with them just shooting off their weapons without any oversight, NOT to mention they got payed like a whole lot more money than our soldiers. She saw the writing on the wall all along, she is very smart. Unfortunately, she is not a Christian...born and raised Jewish. The woman would sit for hours watching CSPAN and taking down tons of notes, then she would watch "Faux" news (so we did not have to, she would say, lol) The woman was smart as a whip and always checked her facts. I did not agree with her on a couple of topics, and never will but, cannot throw out the baby with the bathwater! I have not listened to her in years as, I pulled out of the political area, way too much division and vitriol, name calling blah, blah, blah. I believed it then and I still do that 911 was certainly a conspiracy. I know I'll most likely get attacked for saying this but I've come to the point where I DON'T CARE! People have been so splattered with propaganda that they just believe whatever the lying talking heads on the TV say. Can ya say "sheep to the slaughter"??
 

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@4Jesus said
2 Timothy 2:14-26
An Approved Workman
14 Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers. 15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some.

19 Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity." 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay, some for honor and some for dishonor. 21 Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work.

22 Flee also youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife. 24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.

The snare of the devil is to cause strife and division through foolish and ignorant disputes. Does this thread expose the devil? Absolutely, just not in the way you are meaning....it exposes the snare he has set before us.

Who in your opinion is to be the decider of what qualifies as "words to no profit"? Who is the decider of what qualifies as "profane and idle babblings"?

If someone is following God and has His Spirit, then I think it's up to them to decide what is of profit and what is not.
 

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Who in your opinion is to be the decider of what qualifies as "words to no profit"? Who is the decider of what qualifies as "profane and idle babblings"?

If someone is following God and has His Spirit, then I think it's up to them to decide what is of profit and what is not.
However, with that thinking, we require of ourselves that we give the other person the same "right" we claim for ourselves. None of us can hold the exclusive right to be the only ones who are correct.
 
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I posted a picture from this site Brakelite - to show how ridiculous the narrative is that has been pushed onto the American people:

The ‘plane hitting the Pentagon’ theory has been a question mark for so many people as the camera footage was instantly seized showing the entire event, and there were no plane parts to be found anywhere. Not to mention the plane would have to be flying completely parallel to the ground, JUST skimming the grass to make it into the side of the Pentagon. And of course the hole made in the Pentagon doesn’t match that of a plane at all. See image below.



I'm glad there are others who aren't willing to swallow the lies. The best credibility that I have is my own husband and a group of average professional tradesman/ construction workers who all looked at the footage of the towers and made the offhand remarks that they looked as if they fell by controlled demolition.

There were no angles - no one trying to convince anyone of anything - just a group of men who had witnessed hundreds of professional demolitions and recognized that something didn't look right. I did not know that years later those remarks would come back to me.

Remember: if Bush and others are so abjectly evil within their own hearts as to implement something so evil, (I believe Skull & Bones must be tampering with Satanism) knowing he was sending thousands of people to their fiery deaths - what do you think is planned for our future? It's high time Americans woke up and stopped trying to shut people down who recognize that there is something seriously wrong going on. A lot of people think some of these shootings are false flags too. I read that David Hogg, the anti-gun zealot allegedly attending Parkland during the "school shooting" is really a crisis actor whose father works for the CIA or some other high office - the office that may be the ones plotting the "mass shootings" - which has the end goal of disarming the American people so they're better controlled.

There are too many unanswered questions - too many loose ends. Maybe it will mean something to you if you or your relative is in a 9-11 style mass slaughter. Mike Adams, Dave Hodges, and others believe that something big is planned to depopulate America by 2025 in accordance with the Deagel government document.

I don't believe that God wants us to be

a) stupid
b) uninformed
c) too trusting
d) too preoccupied with things of the world as many are

Proverbs 27:12

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself; but the simple pass on, and are punished.”
 

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I was only reading through it....and was really saddened by the attack against you.

I re-read through the posts - a discussion can get unprofitable and then I can see if something devolves to that point it may be unfruitful.

Willie - I think she may have been referring to how 4Jesus was being treated. In any event, it would be nice to see you change how you're talking to him. Everyone should be allowed to have a free exchange of ideas without being attacked.

Sometimes we may have gifts we're not using - maybe you have a gift that God is going to use.
 
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I read the article by Brian Willson and strongly urge others to scroll back in the thread and read it. It truly speaks the truth. As I was reading the article I thought about a former person in our old town - your average American moral dirtbag who has adopted every evil thing America affords to those who go along to get along. Frighteningly uneducated, he spouts his latest sports team scores with enthusiasm, and knows all the latests smut delivered up by Hollywood along with all the latest celebrity gossip and once bragged to my husband and I that he knew where all the porn sites were online. Truly a crowning trophy of the accomplishment of America.

It scares me that there are many like him - to a greater or lesser degree. He has absolutely no moral compass and he and his wife, a nurse, brought in a foster child who was used to do all the work in their house like a slave. Mr. America (hereafter referred to as "Cheat") bragged that the child was his ticket to a vacation in the Bahamas - and that is exactly what Mr. & Mrs. Cheat did: used an abused foster child to do their housework, while getting paid by the government to keep her in their home and use her as an unpaid domestic worker. Ahh America...land of opportunity (or rather opportunists.)

America is churning out people like them - people who have no moral underpinnings. Could this be by design? Or lets take any legislator who gives government contracts to his relatives, who funnels all of your hard-earned taxpayer dollars to their relatives. We were up at a local store and the salesman cut his eyes at a young woman milling around in the store. He said "See that woman over there? She's so-and-so's daughter - we taxpayers were just forced to pay for a new roof on her house because her father had her house designated as a 'historical house' so that we were forced to pay for her new roof instead of her."

And the poor average Joe taxpayer gets nothing. Unless you're Mr. & Mrs. Cheat and have no compunctions about playing the system yourself. The older I've gotten - mostly just in the last few years my eyes have been opened to just how sick our entire system really is. I write to prisoners and it's sick to see these men who have done far far less evil than legislators (such as the one who tricked taxpayers into paying for his daughter's new roof by disgnating it a 'historical' property) yet he's in jail. The real criminals are on the outside.

Until Americans - especially Christians - are willing to face the truth then we'll continue living in a fairy-tale. A fairy tale for us but a nightmare for others. The nightmare of having a bully country come in and attack. But as we're seeing - the bully who has turned its guns on others will eventually turn its guns on us - such as in 9-11.
 

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I mentioned previously 9/11. This was in connection to the article that @Soverign Grace posted. I am amazed at the complete lack of response to that article. Even if it was all hogwash, I thought there might be some sort of comment... But no. But it isn't all hogwash. In fact, I can personally attest from my own reading over the years that much of it is absolutely true. And there's more he didn't mention... For example the forced takeover Hawaii. Only 100 years ago! And still no comment. So I thought I would post this link. Yes, some would say another conspiracy theory. But as I said before, if there's sufficient evidence, the term theory should be tossed out. This is about a conspiracy. A conspiracy so obvious... so obnoxious... so evil... And so deeply entrenched and supported by government officials, bureaucrats, and the mainstream media, as to defy belief. And it has. Defied belief. But there are numerous highly intelligent, skilled, and educated people who see through the lies and the deceit. And many who don't. Anyway....
The 9-11 Event, The President, And The Militia

Brakelite,
And @Soverign Grace too:

I agree with you. There's something even more to it, I think, that I've never seen discussed.

The attacks could have been part of a satanic sacrifice. In addition, the two towers could have represented the two-pillars symbol used in Freemasonry, known as Jachin and Boaz (which were pillars on either side of the entrance to King Solomon's temple).

The date the attacks happened was on 9/11, obviously. What isn't obvious is that the numbers 9 and 11 have a meaning to occultists/esoteric believers. It's found in the "Tree of Life" symbol, in Kabbalahism.

I'm not saying it's definitive, but there is a link between the date the attacks occurred and the use of 9 and 11 in non-Christian beliefs.
 

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Brakelite,
And @Soverign Grace too:

I agree with you. There's something even more to it, I think, that I've never seen discussed.

The attacks could have been part of a satanic sacrifice. In addition, the two towers could have represented the two-pillars symbol used in Freemasonry, known as Jachin and Boaz (which were pillars on either side of the entrance to King Solomon's temple).

The date the attacks happened was on 9/11, obviously. What isn't obvious is that the numbers 9 and 11 have a meaning to occultists/esoteric believers. It's found in the "Tree of Life" symbol, in Kabbalahism.

I'm not saying it's definitive, but there is a link between the date the attacks occurred and the use of 9 and 11 in non-Christian beliefs.
Do you even remember all the taped videos of Osama Bin Laden bragging and claiming death to America and claiming responsibility for the attacks? All terrorists on board the planes were positively identified as Islam Terrorists.
Osama's intent was strictly to destroy America.
 
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Here's a picture of the "Tree of Life" Kabbalah symbol that some non-Christians believe in. In the picture I uploaded, if you turn your head sideways, you can see the numerals that appear with the red and blue lines I complimented the original lines with...they form an IX and a XI, broken up by color here. Roman numeral IX = 9, Roman numeral XI = 11

Please also note the upside down pentagram within the image.
 

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Do you even remember all the taped videos of Osama Bin Laden bragging and claiming death to America and claiming responsibility for the attacks? All terrorists on board the planes were positively identified as Islam Terrorists.
Osama's intent was strictly to destroy America.

I don't deny that OBL and his gang were happy about it - I believe it. I also think people take credit for others works sometimes, not saying that's definitive either, but I'm sure he'd be happy to claim it was him even if it wasn't, to push his goals through. Believing that a terrorist is honest is funny in itself, kinda like thinking a deceiver will be honest, when he/she is deceiving another...
 

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Brakelite,
And @Soverign Grace too:

I agree with you. There's something even more to it, I think, that I've never seen discussed.

The attacks could have been part of a satanic sacrifice. In addition, the two towers could have represented the two-pillars symbol used in Freemasonry, known as Jachin and Boaz (which were pillars on either side of the entrance to King Solomon's temple).

The date the attacks happened was on 9/11, obviously. What isn't obvious is that the numbers 9 and 11 have a meaning to occultists/esoteric believers. It's found in the "Tree of Life" symbol, in Kabbalahism.

I'm not saying it's definitive, but there is a link between the date the attacks occurred and the use of 9 and 11 in non-Christian beliefs.

That's a possibility. I recall reading that they use specific dates to commit acts on. I think that once you start seeing the truth it's worse than anything we could have suspected. I think that Skull & Bones is intimately entwined with the occult and that is why Bush was able to do such an horrendously evil act. Only a very evil heart could be involved in such a thing as 9-11 and the suffering that those people endured.
 
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Do you even remember all the taped videos of Osama Bin Laden bragging and claiming death to America and claiming responsibility for the attacks? All terrorists on board the planes were positively identified as Islam Terrorists.
Osama's intent was strictly to destroy America.

I don't have all the answers but I can surmise a few things. People sometimes claim responsibility for crimes they didn't commit to boost their reputation - this is a well known fact. Police often have multiple people claiming responsibility for a crime who aren't guilty - for one reason or another.

Did you also know about the "dancing Israelis" on the roof in NJ? Did you know about the van that was found full of explosives:

I found this site that I began reading: http://freedomfightersforamerica.com/home

There are too many unanswered questions. I know that it challenges the narrative that you've put your faith in and it's sometimes hard to face the cold facts that the bill of goods you've been sold is a lie. Neither should we be so gullible as to believe every story that comes down the highway - but when you have a group of engineers who say that heat cannot collapse buildings as we've been told then I think that it's time to take a 2nd look.
 

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I posted a picture from this site Brakelite - to show how ridiculous the narrative is that has been pushed onto the American people:

The ‘plane hitting the Pentagon’ theory has been a question mark for so many people as the camera footage was instantly seized showing the entire event, and there were no plane parts to be found anywhere. Not to mention the plane would have to be flying completely parallel to the ground, JUST skimming the grass to make it into the side of the Pentagon. And of course the hole made in the Pentagon doesn’t match that of a plane at all. See image below.



I'm glad there are others who aren't willing to swallow the lies. The best credibility that I have is my own husband and a group of average professional tradesman/ construction workers who all looked at the footage of the towers and made the offhand remarks that they looked as if they fell by controlled demolition.

There were no angles - no one trying to convince anyone of anything - just a group of men who had witnessed hundreds of professional demolitions and recognized that something didn't look right. I did not know that years later those remarks would come back to me.

Remember: if Bush and others are so abjectly evil within their own hearts as to implement something so evil, (I believe Skull & Bones must be tampering with Satanism) knowing he was sending thousands of people to their fiery deaths - what do you think is planned for our future? It's high time Americans woke up and stopped trying to shut people down who recognize that there is something seriously wrong going on. A lot of people think some of these shootings are false flags too. I read that David Hogg, the anti-gun zealot allegedly attending Parkland during the "school shooting" is really a crisis actor whose father works for the CIA or some other high office - the office that may be the ones plotting the "mass shootings" - which has the end goal of disarming the American people so they're better controlled.

There are too many unanswered questions - too many loose ends. Maybe it will mean something to you if you or your relative is in a 9-11 style mass slaughter. Mike Adams, Dave Hodges, and others believe that something big is planned to depopulate America by 2025 in accordance with the Deagel government document.

I don't believe that God wants us to be

a) stupid
b) uninformed
c) too trusting
d) too preoccupied with things of the world as many are

Proverbs 27:12

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself; but the simple pass on, and are punished.”

"I don't believe that God wants us to be

a) stupid
b) uninformed
c) too trusting
d) too preoccupied with things of the world as many are"

Amen sister! Indoctrinated by the propaganda. They have their base, and pander shamelessly to them.
Many believe that they are right and choosing the "Godly" candidate and it is the party line every time...
Why do Republicans believe that ALL Democrats are for abortion? Or, gay marriage? That is so far from the truth. But, I guess we love to label people groups like, they all believe the same way. All we are to do for our "leaders", biblicaly speaking, is to pray and pay. 'Give unto Caesars...Pray for all in authority'..." that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness." It seems the corruptness is already at the core. This world is anything but peaceful, quiet, or godly/holy
It does not matter anyhow as, God allows all who are in authority only because He puts them there for His reasons. Jmho :)
 

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I don't have all the answers but I can surmise a few things. People sometimes claim responsibility for crimes they didn't commit to boost their reputation - this is a well known fact. Police often have multiple people claiming responsibility for a crime who aren't guilty - for one reason or another.

Did you also know about the "dancing Israelis" on the roof in NJ? Did you know about the van that was found full of explosives:

I found this site that I began reading: http://freedomfightersforamerica.com/home

There are too many unanswered questions. I know that it challenges the narrative that you've put your faith in and it's sometimes hard to face the cold facts that the bill of goods you've been sold is a lie. Neither should we be so gullible as to believe every story that comes down the highway - but when you have a group of engineers who say that heat cannot collapse buildings as we've been told then I think that it's time to take a 2nd look.
Well i am not in agreement with you...I am just going to stick with scripture studies and grow in grace. Have a blessed day.
 

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That's a possibility. I recall reading that they use specific dates to commit acts on. I think that once you start seeing the truth it's worse than anything we could have suspected. I think that Skull & Bones is intimately entwined with the occult and that is why Bush was able to do such an horrendously evil act. Only a very evil heart could be involved in such a thing as 9-11 and the suffering that those people endured.

I can't say it was this group or that group (it's not like they're advertising it like OBL advertises the "victory"), like the difference between Freemasons and Skull & Bones, but at the very least, there is a connection with the satanic. I doubt it was Kabbalah believers either, specifically, but, that they are antichrist at best and satanic at worst, with a connection to that date. So if a satanic group believes in those numbers, that means satan has put meaning into those numbers.