Fundamentalist Christianity breeds narcissism/bigotry

[marks]

What I quoted isn't corrupted. I don't have a "all or nothing mentality". That junk comes from cult membership. I'm not a cult member. Truth is truth.



I know when the KJV is right and when it is wrong. I trust parts of it. I don't throw the baby out with the "bathwater".

Someone who thinks/feels as you seem to, why would you even have anything to do with the KJV? Why aren't you posting your quotes from the Geneva Bible, and promote it's use instead of promoting the Bible that you hate?

Much love!

 

[praise_yeshua]

Someone who thinks/feels as you seem to, why would you even have anything to do with the KJV? Why aren't you posting your quotes from the Geneva Bible, and promote it's use instead of promoting the Bible that you hate?

Much love!

I don't hate the KJV. It is just full of mistakes. Horrible mistakes. I don't quote the mistakes. How difficult is that for you to understand?

How about your wife? Do you drown your wife in the river because she made one mistake with your meal?

No one takes that approach in anything but stupid "fundamentalism"......

 

[Jim B]

I've worked in IT professionally since the 90s. The last few major updates to Windows 10 have introduced random issues with the clipboard. Many people suffer from it. If you're experiencing the issue, it is almost impossible to fix. A new profile can fix it for a time but it usually returns.

Windows 11 has the same issue. I generally don't "buy new PC" when I have issues and it will not necessarily fix the issue if you did. Microsoft knows about it. It is complicated. Billions of lines of code. Windows 11 isn't ready for corporate use.



I bet you didn't tolerate dissent did you? If someone seriously disagreed with you, what would you do? I bet you'd tell them to "move on".....

That is what people do. Their kindness ends when you disagree with them. Christianity is full of egomaniacs. Disagree with me all you want. Please do. I have no agenda involving acceptance or rejection. It is what it is. I have nothing to sell.



So why do you believe others were doing good by coming to YOUR training?

Why not study themselves. I have everything you have and maybe more. I know how to study. I don't need your conclusion. I just need the facts.

However, that is not how "discipleship" is taught today. "Discipleship" is all about being identical to another man, not Jesus Christ.

Are you okay? Maybe you need a break! Go have a beer, watch a baseball game, and "chill out".

I worked for decades as an IT professional. If you can't cut-and-paste successfully -- a very simple task -- how did you survive in the industry? Microsoft has been incredibly successful because their OS works. If cut-and-paste fails for you, don't blame Windows; it's your fault.

When I led the Bible study, my main purpose was to have people discover the meaning of Scripture for themselves. Your saying that "I bet you didn't tolerate dissent did you? If someone seriously disagreed with you, what would you do? I bet you'd tell them to "move on"....." does nothing but reveal your behavior if you led the Bible study. I did not tell them what Scripture meant; we studied what it meant as a group. Everyone could freely express their views. I never told anyone to "move on", nor would I. Perhaps you would behave that way, but I never did.

I never said anything like I " believe others were doing good by coming to MY training". That exists in your mind only! They came because they wanted to come -- to study the Bible together and share what it meant to them.

"Christianity is full of egomaniacs" is "the pot calling the kettle black". Is that really what you think of your brothers and sisters in Christ? That we're all "egomaniacs"? Really? How very sad!!!

Obviously, your kindness ends when others disagree with you.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Are you okay? Maybe you need a break! Go have a beer, watch a baseball game, and "chill out".

I worked for decades as an IT professional. If you can't cut-and-paste successfully -- a very simple task -- how did you survive in the industry? Microsoft has been incredibly successful because their OS works. If cut-and-paste fails for you, don't blame Windows; it's your fault.

No need to deflect your weaknesses my way. You're either not an IT professional or you don't support any infrastructure at all. If you did, you would know that what I said is true. I've managed and supported large infrastructures for decades.

Everyone that supports infrastructures know what I said is true. You have no idea what you're talking about.

When I led the Bible study, my main purpose was to have people discover the meaning of Scripture for themselves. Your saying that "I bet you didn't tolerate dissent did you? If someone seriously disagreed with you, what would you do? I bet you'd tell them to "move on"....." does nothing but reveal your behavior if you led the Bible study. I did not tell them what Scripture meant; we studied what it meant as a group. Everyone could freely express their views. I never told anyone to "move on", nor would I. Perhaps you would behave that way, but I never did.

I haven't. I seriously doubt that you've faced much dissent in your life. I have. Your attitude towards me proves it to me. There is no way I'd be welcome in your bible study. Not that I need YOUR bible study. Like I said. I have all the information you have and more. I know how to study. I don't need your teaching.

"Christianity is full of egomaniacs" is "the pot calling the kettle black". Is that really what you think of your brothers and sisters in Christ? That we're all "egomaniacs"? Really? How very sad!!!

Yes. I do. I believe most every Christian cares more about themselves than they do about anyone else. It is so very rare to actually find someone that will act contrary to their own self interest in ANYTHING.

Obviously, your kindness ends when others disagree with you.

No. I'm still here arguing with you. If you expect me to pat you on the back when you are wrong, it is not going to happen. Will I run away and hide and let you feel good about yourself.... no. Not going to do that either.

 

[marks]

No one takes that approach in anything but stupid "fundamentalism"......

Your hatred for the KJV shines out of all these posts. How hard is that to understand?

Anyway, I think I've had my fill.

Much love!

 

[marks]

When I led the Bible study, my main purpose was to have people discover the meaning of Scripture for themselves. Your saying that "I bet you didn't tolerate dissent did you? If someone seriously disagreed with you, what would you do? I bet you'd tell them to "move on"....." does nothing but reveal your behavior if you led the Bible study. I did not tell them what Scripture meant; we studied what it meant as a group. Everyone could freely express their views. I never told anyone to "move on", nor would I. Perhaps you would behave that way, but I never did.

That's the way our small group studies worked also. Much better that way. And besides, when this is brothers and sisters, I'm not just shutting people down.

And, aren't we, as God's children, HAPPY when we can be truthfully corrected?? Aren't we glad, relieved, when we realize we've been mistaken, and now understand something correctly?

Much love!

 

[praise_yeshua]

That's the way our small group studies worked also. Much better that way. And besides, when this is brothers and sisters, I'm not just shutting people down.

And, aren't we, as God's children, HAPPY when we can be truthfully corrected?? Aren't we glad, relieved, when we realize we've been mistaken, and now understand something correctly?

Much love!

You're not enjoying being corrected.

 

[marks]

You're not enjoying being corrected.

Since you've essentially entered into an "ad hominem" style of posting, I'm not anticipating responding to you. I don't take it personally, I see you doing that with others also. I just have no interest in that sort of discussion. Just letting you know as a courtesy.

If you'd like to engage in pleasant and friendly discussion, that is something else, but not like this.

Much love!

 

[praise_yeshua]

Since you've essentially entered into an "ad hominem" style of posting, I'm not anticipating responding to you. I don't take it personally, I see you doing that with others also. I just have no interest in that sort of discussion. Just letting you know as a courtesy.

Much love!

It wasn't an "ad hominem" remark. Just pointing out that you've been corrected and you didn't enjoy it. Which is contrary to what you stated earlier.

 

[marks]

It wasn't an "ad hominem" remark. Just pointing out that you've been corrected and you didn't enjoy it. Which is contrary to what you stated earlier.

It's not been correcting. You've been offering a succession of weak arguments and ad hominems. (to the man - not necessarily insulting, but off topic because you start discussing me, primarily in sharing your negative opinions of me on a public forum. How does that look for a Christian, do you think?)

And at no time have I shared what I'm feeling. So anything you think about that is only what you think, and we've never even met, must less have any real knowledge of each other. You have your perceptions of me, your cognitive bias against me, and your opinions of your perceptions, turned by your cognitive bias. Or so it seems to me.

OK. Like I said, I'm not here to discuss myself with you. So enough! (I'm telling that to myself)

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

Your hatred for the KJV shines out of all these posts. How hard is that to understand?

Anyway, I think I've had my fill.

Much love!

And now its time to fill ourselves with many praises to the glorious Lord and just love every word in that kjv bible my friend .
For what GOD inspires is wonderful to the soul of a lamb . So hands up , ITS LORD PRAISING TIME .

 

[JohnPaul]

I don't hate the KJV. It is just full of mistakes. Horrible mistakes. I don't quote the mistakes. How difficult is that for you to understand?

How about your wife? Do you drown your wife in the river because she made one mistake with your meal?

No one takes that approach in anything but stupid "fundamentalism"......

I'd rather adhere to Christian Fundamentalism than the liberal garbage being spewed and peddled today and the acceptance of everything that is vile in the eyes of Jehovah.

 

[Taken]

I'm going to be brutally honest here.

...progressive Christians. Why? Because they don't walk around thinking they have the absolute truth.

Agree.
They (Progressive Christians) do not think they have they absolute truth, nor do I think they do.

...there is no absolute truth.

Disagree. I trust The Word of God, called Jesus, IS the absolute Truth.

...picking on fundamentalist Christianity

No issue. One large group, another large group, under one umbrella, with major differing beliefs.

...fundamentalist Christianity has been on the decline and is even

Disheartening to observe, but Prophetically Expected.

...projected to be overtaken by Islam

Not surprising. People who crave to be part of a Religious Order, and dissatisfied with their own, look for something different.
* Key is Every Religious Order, has ONE umbrella of Core Beliefs, and thereafter, Divisions Under that ONE umbrella.
* Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, on an on, all have Divisions.

....religious “ego”...look down on others.

That is a stretch. That is simply the “opinion of ones feelings” not choosing to be included in a particular religious Order, projecting “their choice of not included” to the fault of “those choosing to be included”.

It is not one looking down on an other.
It is accepting the choice of who has chosen a Religious Order same as themselves.....and who has not chosen their same Religious Order.
People with the SAME beliefs, have a SAME commonality.
People with DIFFERING beliefs, have disagreement.
Door swings both ways.

...your religion is the ultimate truth and everyone else is wrong.

Here you are speaking of two components...
* (1) Two Religions in Disagreement;
Christianity Vs Islam
Christianity Vs Buddhism
Islam Vs Christianity
Buddhism Vs Christianity.
Etc.

* That Division is THEY are NOT under the SAME Umbrella of Core Beliefs.

* (2) One Religion in Disagreement;
Christians Vs Christians (same Core Beliefs, Differing Doctrine Beliefs)
Islam Vs Islam (same Core Beliefs, Differing Doctrine Beliefs)
Etc.

* Ya, ya....One with Differing Doctrine Beliefs, “Individually” discuss, debate, their Differences.
“Individually” stand for their own Doctrines.
“Individually” choose their own “remarks”...
ie “disagree, wrong, false, correct, agree, etc.
“Individually” speak for themselves, NOT everyone else!

* IOW - accredit credit where credit is due.
* IOW - One is NOT accredited, for what an other says.
* IOW - One is NOT accredited, for how an other feels.
* IOW - (according TO Christianity (can’t speak for other Religions)... Every man bears his own burden, for what he thinks, for what he believes, what he says, what he feels, what he does.

Gal 6:
[5] For every man shall bear his own burden.

* IOW - whatever you think, believe, say, feel, do...is accredited “individually” to You, is on you, not an other.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[praise_yeshua]

I'd rather adhere to Christian Fundamentalism than the liberal garbage being spewed and peddled today and the acceptance of everything that is vile in the eyes of Jehovah.

I haven't peddled anything vile.

 

[JohnPaul]

I haven't peddled anything vile.

I didn’t say you did, I said the liberal garbage being spewed that so many accept because it’s what is in style so people including Christians fall for this garbage and accept all its filth because it is so called loving your neighbor and enemy.

 

[praise_yeshua]

It's not been correcting. You've been offering a succession of weak arguments and ad hominems. (to the man - not necessarily insulting, but off topic because you start discussing me, primarily in sharing your negative opinions of me on a public forum. How does that look for a Christian, do you think?)

Lets see..... Christianity without dealing with the individual isn't Christianity. Everyone needs change. You're not immune from needing change. Your ego doesn't matter.

And at no time have I shared what I'm feeling. So anything you think about that is only what you think, and we've never even met, must less have any real knowledge of each other. You have your perceptions of me, your cognitive bias against me, and your opinions of your perceptions, turned by your cognitive bias. Or so it seems to me.

Real statements as to fact and you end it with.... "so it seems"..... You and I both are what we present.

OK. Like I said, I'm not here to discuss myself with you. So enough! (I'm telling that to myself)

Much love!

It is a good thing for you to get what you don't want.....

 

[praise_yeshua]

I didn’t say you did, I said the liberal garbage being spewed that so many accept because it’s what is in style so people including Christians fall for this garbage and accept all its filth because it is so called loving your neighbor and enemy.

1Co 13:6 Loves rejoices not in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;

 

[Jim B]

No need to deflect your weaknesses my way. You're either not an IT professional or you don't support any infrastructure at all. If you did, you would know that what I said is true. I've managed and supported large infrastructures for decades.

Everyone that supports infrastructures know what I said is true. You have no idea what you're talking about.



I haven't. I seriously doubt that you've faced much dissent in your life. I have. Your attitude towards me proves it to me. There is no way I'd be welcome in your bible study. Not that I need YOUR bible study. Like I said. I have all the information you have and more. I know how to study. I don't need your teaching.



Yes. I do. I believe most every Christian cares more about themselves than they do about anyone else. It is so very rare to actually find someone that will act contrary to their own self interest in ANYTHING.



No. I'm still here arguing with you. If you expect me to pat you on the back when you are wrong, it is not going to happen. Will I run away and hide and let you feel good about yourself.... no. Not going to do that either.

Your combative, argumentative attitude is tragic. Why must you be so unpleasant?

I have no idea what I'm talking about, yet you can't perform a simple cut-and-paste? Try this: ctrl-x and ctrl-v It's that easy. Mr. IT Pro! I simply can't accept your claim that you've managed and supported large infrastructures for decades if you can't even do that. BTW, my last position was directing the IT division of a large state agency. Some of us could even do simple tasks like cut-and-paste.

I have no doubt that what you wrote is true, that you've faced much dissent in your life. Your belligerent attitude clearly shows why. You boasted that "I have all the information you have and more. I know how to study. I don't need your teaching", which is a great example of pride and self-delusion. It's obvious that you really need a group Bible study, both for information and socialization. When you write that "I believe most every Christian cares more about themselves than they do about anyone else", the reason is obvious.

It's clear there are still Pharisees in the world. You have the Word of God, yet use it as a tool to try to dominate others. How very, very tragic!

 

[praise_yeshua]

Your combative, argumentative attitude is tragic. Why must you be so unpleasant?

I have no idea what I'm talking about, yet you can't perform a simple cut-and-paste? Try this: ctrl-x and ctrl-v It's that easy. Mr. IT Pro!

I'm combative? You're not paying attention.

I simply can't accept your claim that you've managed and supported large infrastructures for decades if you can't even do that. BTW, my last position was directing the IT division of a large state agency. Some of us could even do simple tasks like cut-and-paste.

"Director" at a "state" agency. That is your issue. You're not an IT Professional. You're just some "suit" without any technical skills yourself. I don't have a single person working for me that knows more than I do about anything I manage. I'm not some "suit" that doesn't actually have any practical skills.

Like trying to "cut" a static text from a Bible program..... Geesh... you're a "gem" in your field alright....

I have no doubt that what you wrote is true, that you've faced much dissent in your life. Your belligerent attitude clearly shows why. You boasted that "I have all the information you have and more. I know how to study. I don't need your teaching", which is a great example of pride and self-delusion. It's obvious that you really need a group Bible study, both for information and socialization. When you write that "I believe most every Christian cares more about themselves than they do about anyone else", the reason is obvious.

Yeah. A "Director" disconnected from reality telling someone else that actually "does the work" that they need them....... How many times have I heard that before.

It's clear there are still Pharisees in the world. You have the Word of God, yet use it as a tool to try to dominate others. How very, very tragic!

Dominate? Do as you please. I'm arguing the points. You can't handle that. You're the one with the ego issue. I don't want your money, your teaching or "leadership".....

I tell everyone they need Jesus Christ and forget about silly men. I remain anonymous for that reason. You can't rightfully claim I want to be like you. You're looking to be followed. I'm not. I argue the points regardless of relationships. You can't handle that. Not my issue.

 

[Jim B]

I'm combative? You're not paying attention.



"Director" at a "state" agency. That is your issue. You're not an IT Professional. You're just some "suit" without any technical skills yourself. I don't have a single person working for me that knows more than I do about anything I manage. I'm not some "suit" that doesn't actually have any practical skills.

Like trying to "cut" a static text from a Bible program..... Geesh... you're a "gem" in your field alright....



Yeah. A "Director" disconnected from reality telling someone else that actually "does the work" that they need them....... How many times have I heard that before.



Dominate? Do as you please. I'm arguing the points. You can't handle that. You're the one with the ego issue. I don't want your money, your teaching or "leadership".....

I tell everyone they need Jesus Christ and forget about silly men. I remain anonymous for that reason. You can't rightfully claim I want to be like you. You're looking to be followed. I'm not. I argue the points regardless of relationships. You can't handle that. Not my issue.

I'm combative? You are not paying attention.

I was a very successful IT professional for many years, which is why I was promoted to manage the division. You make an absurd claim that are just some "suit" without any technical skills yourself, which is a joke. Unlike yourself I can perform the most rudimentary operation of cut-and-paste in Windows without blaming the operating system! On top of that, you're modest! "I don't have a single person working for me that knows more than I do about anything I manage. I'm not some "suit" that doesn't actually have any practical skills." You can't even use Windows correctly!!!

"A "Director" disconnected from reality telling someone else that actually "does the work" that they need them....... How many times have I heard that before." Probably many! I'm sure it's directed at you regularly, probably behind your back!

You're fooling yourself when you claim that "I'm arguing the points. You can't handle that."

I'm done arguing with you, since all you're interested in is trying vainly to discredit me, someone you have never met. You're a fraud, buddy!!!

Let me know when you decide to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. Until then I will no longer respond to your vindictiveness.

P.S. Ever consider the fact that you get less than 15% "likes" of your posts?