Better to focus on now. Let God worry about the next life .Is there not a heaven and hell?
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Better to focus on now. Let God worry about the next life .Is there not a heaven and hell?
Oh, sorry, were you referring to the authority of the canon itself, or simply the comparison between the KJV and Catholic Bibles (sorry, I only read your post atht i responded to, nothing prior).This is what I found on the web...
The Short Answer
We can say with some certainty that the first widespread edition of the Bible was assembled by St. Jerome around A.D. 400. This manuscript included all 39 books of the Old Testament and the 27 books of the New Testament in the same language: Latin. This edition of the Bible is commonly referred to as The Vulgate.
Jerome wasn't the first to select all 66 books we know today as the Bible. He was the first to translate and compile everything into a single volume.
Who Compiled the 66 Books of the Bible and When?
Understand it in context.and that is a very nasty comment... which reflects that you are being a very disobedient Christian yourself.
It's the majority of it, ...you're not appreciating the gravity of the situation.I define evangelism differently. Or more broadly. You seem to limit evangelism to "I'm the expert. Now listen to what I have to say".
There is a time and place for that I admit. But it's only a part of it.
I'm quite certain I "read" you properly... I am most familiar with the kind of "evangelism" ofUnderstand it in context.
Maybe not entirely, maybe not denouncing, ...but you are just way too luke warm in your convictions.Entirely denouncing?? Not sure about that
No, you didn't read me properly, at all. Read my follow-up to aintnosaint in regard to that comment, he appeared to have misread me also.I'm quite certain I "read" you properly... I am most familiar with the kind of "evangelism" of
which you seem to believe in...
I stay away from Christians with this mind-set as I find they do so much damage to every one they
come into contact with... Just my opinion.
but you are just way too luke warm in your convictions.
Yes. I'm in my secular Christian phase.I find you to be rather secular in your perception of Christianity - you are not appreciating the martyrdom, both physically and spiritually, required in order to be both edified and efficacious.
Gravity.It's the majority of it, ...you're not appreciating the gravity of the situation.
Point is, no matter what the context, when there is error, no matter how egregious the error is, the one who knows better is obligated to step in.
Your attitude is way too complacent. I get your point, but it's not balanced enough, you have not acknowledged the merits and obligation, of evangelism on any level.
It's the majority of it, ...you're not appreciating the gravity of the situation.
Maybe not entirely, maybe not denouncing, ...but you are just way too luke warm in your convictions.
I'm not trying too disparage here, but, judging by many of your posts, including this, I find you to be rather secular in your perception of Christianity - you are not appreciating the martyrdom, both physically and spiritually, required in order to be both edified and efficacious.
No, you didn't read me properly, at all.
Only if you take it seriously.Christianity...and it
does massive damage to everyone
You are right on a very important principle, God converts the individual. It is a spiritual act that involves lifting that veil of blindness, shedding light on the darkness, there is so much that we are not capable of doing that. But we cooperate with His love and His Word and He works through us.When is that the case though? Are they dying?
Convert? From Catholic to adult saved paradigm Christian? From atheist to Christian?
Personally speaking I don't try to convert people. I let God do the work by my example if necessary but as I said I don't try to convert anyway. I don't like the word "convert". It implies there is something wrong with them.
Excellent post.You are right on a very important principle, God converts the individual. It is a spiritual act that involves lifting that veil of blindness, shedding light on the darkness, there is so much that we are not capable of doing that. But we cooperate with His love and His Word and He works through us.
Imagine a person who has been fed lies, false religions, doubts, weird philosophies, dark stuff, all their lives. God has to go in and do some surgery, remove, dissolve every one of those bindings (if you will) ... snip ... snip. Each one of them surgically removed. Sometimes it takes years for these falsehoods to dissolve.
I can remember much of my falsehoods dissolving quickly when I became a Christian. But everyone has major stumbling blocks that they need to resolve, they need answers to those complex questions and God reveals those answers. It's a miracle, how He enlightens us and releases us from bondage. We find most of the answers in the Bible, but people just read it and can't believe it.
Your last sentence though, the implication that something is wrong with them is absolutely true. We are all born with this spiritual defect and then of course a sinful nature that is likened to a disease - something is truly wrong with us and we all need a very special Physician to cure us.
As far as "truth" goes, how you communicate says a lot more about "truth "than the message itself.
What is the feast with alexandria , or constantinople .
and to be quite honest.. I would rather be in the presence of an athiest than a great many Christians.
is there a difference between ‘an atheist’ and those ‘against the word they preach’?
I know your temperament is gentle and therefore... I don't think this is a loaded question... LOL
Can you clarify this question for me please? Is there a difference between an atheist and those who preach against the gospel ??? Is that what you are asking?