God hates the world?

[MatthewG]

No. He hates sin. He hates the things which bind men keeping them from doing the good He has for them to do. He hates the uninhabitable parts of our little bit of earth.

Da 3:22	Therefore because the king's commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flame of the fire slew those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.
Da 3:23	And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
Da 3:24	Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.
Da 3:25	He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

The men serving evil purposes were slain by the heat. The ropes which bound the three men serving God were burned up leaving them free to walk with the Son of God. What was left was the "good", was it not? It was symbolic at least of the real Life, was it not? Did not Jesus bring the really abundant Life, did he not? Joh 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

John,

If sin has been done away with and taken care of and God has reconciled the world; is God still angry at people when they do sin?

It seems God was good to let me score some meth, for my drug usage; there was times i almost went to jail and many times i did not.

Was God mad or hating on me for doing those things? Or did he allow the cost to come through a flesh filled life which in the end doesnt mean anything? Was quenching the spirit done by using the drugs and porn?

 

[amadeus]

John,

If sin has been done away with and taken care of and God has reconciled the world; is God still angry at people when they do sin?

It seems God was good to let me score some meth, for my drug usage; there was times i almost went to jail and many times i did not.

Was God mad or hating on me for doing those things? Or did he allow the cost to come through a flesh filled life which in the end doesnt mean anything? Was quenching the spirit done by using the drugs and porn?

I may come back at a later time. You are too far away from where I am on too many points for me provide a short concise answer.

Give God the glory!

 

[MatthewG]

So the world that is so evil and sinful and wicked has yet to have the sin taken away from it, is still part of the fallen world but restored in the ability to have connection with God in faith.


So while we still have a fallen nature.


God doesnt hate you…
God desires for light to come in your life,
Yes God does not like the way the flesh can be; with all its greed, lust, and what not; however God is not mad or angry with human beings who are all born with a predispostion…

God desires for us by the message of Jesus and even from some of the other Apostles the importances to dying to Sin.

Which has been paid for…

 

[MatthewG]

I may come back at a later time. You are too far away from where I am on too many points for me provide a short concise answer.

Give God the glory!

@amadeus

Just try not to overthink it and be honest about it, i doubt to hear anything though.

Would bring up other things is God good to let a pedophile get away with having sex with children? Well that is a loaded gun handed off to answer…

God is good; to allow people to have freedom. Human beings make bad choices and they are never good even if they dont have sex or use drugs or dont listen to rock and roll.

God is good to restore the lives of pedophiles and broken children, and broken people who seek out God in faith, which beings forth ultimately by the spirit the ability to have understanding, love, being fair, and also allowing people freedom.

There is only so many willingly people through each generation to live a life for God in love for God and others.

 

[Jack]

Everyone will learn to fear God, now or in Hell.

Revelation 20
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

 

[MatthewG]

God was indeed angry though his the chosen nation who abandon him for idols killed the prophets even the Son of God; they broke their covenant where Jesus kept his fully and wholesomely.

That is why he had them destroyed in 70Ad, when Jesus came back seen in the clouds (of course most dont have faith thay jesus had come back).


Cause they see the world has though God hates it… which they wait for Jesus to restore the world… that has happened Spiritually.

But does God really hate the world?

 

[amadeus]

@amadeus

Just try not to overthink it and be honest about it, i doubt to hear anything though.

I do not overthink it. On the contrary every day I return to the lowest room emptying myself all that I can and allowing God to refill or change or whatever is in accord with His will. He does makes changes as well adding sometimes new things for me. What a mighty God we serve!

Would bring up other things is God good to let a pedophile get away with having sex with children? Well that is a loaded gun handed off to answer…

God is good; to allow people to have freedom. Human beings make bad choices and they are never good even if they dont have sex or use drugs or dont listen to rock and roll.

People are "good" according to God when they being led by the Holy Spirit. People without the Spirit or people who are quenching the Spirit of course can do nothing in eyes of God. That is what I believe.

God is good to restore the lives of pedophiles and broken children, and broken people who seek out God in faith, which beings forth ultimately by the spirit the ability to have understanding, love, being fair, and also allowing people freedom.

There is only so many willingly people through each generation to live a life for God in love for God and others.

Mt 7:12	Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Mt 7:13	Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mt 7:14	Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

 

[Jack]

God was indeed angry though his the chosen nation who abandon him for idols killed the prophets even the Son of God; they broke their covenant where Jesus kept his fully and wholesomely.

That is why he had them destroyed in 70Ad

So God destroys people He doesn't hate?

, when Jesus came back seen in the clouds (of course most dont have faith thay jesus had come back).

Preterism is one of the most ridiculous doctrines I've heard!

Cause they see the world has though God hates it… which they wait for Jesus to restore the world… that has happened Spiritually.

But does God really hate the world?

Define "the world".

 

[MatthewG]

I do not overthink it. On the contrary every day I return to the lowest room emptying myself all that I can and allowing God to refill or change or whatever is in accord with His will. He does makes changes as well adding sometimes new things for me. What a mighty God we serve!

You took what i said very personally. I was simply trying to be encouraging.

People are "good" according to God when they being led by the Holy Spirit. People without the Spirit or people who are quenching the Spirit of course can do nothing in eyes of God. That is what I believe.

There are good and bad people by merits of morality but no one Good enough to stand in front of God and say “i never sinned”.

Believers do good things; by allowing the spirit to come through like you said but its not them. Its Christ in them, and the Holy Spirit… all glory to God and what he is able to do, indeed.

Of course if a person lets God in their life to work on their heart and mind.

 

[amadeus]

You took what i said very personally. I was simply trying to be encouraging.

Ultimately I can only speak for myself. What other hearts do I have access to?

There are good and bad people by merits of morality but no one Good enough to stand in front of God and say “i never sinned”.

Are there not people who will be able to say that they never sinned after they were born again?

1jo 3:6

Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Perhaps many who claim to be born again while saying they still sin and cannot stop are not really born again at all.

1jo 3:9

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Believers do good things; by allowing the spirit to come through like you said but its not them. Its Christ in them, and the Holy Spirit…

When [and if] we are able to see him as he is, what are we or where are we then?

1jo 3:2

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

 

[Cassandra]

No thank you Jack. You are still on the ignore list. Thank you for commenting again, rather not get conjected into a horrible debate even though this is a debate forum.

The question still remains is does God hate the world, and you are more than welcome and should bee encouraged to look defintions up for yourself, and express and share what your overall thoughts are.

Thank yiu for understanding (there is nothing wrong with using the ignore button; its there for a purpose, to not get conjected into to heated discussions when one gets ticked off by overconsumation; know yourself).

God's creative force was put into all life initially when He made them. Everything now is a copy of a copy of a copy.
While we have many wonderful things, we are missing many too. How many animals are extinct? Everything dies.
Are plants as good for us as they were hundreds of years ago? We have to take supplements.
We have man made chemicals eveywhere that are killing folk. Our oceans are getting worse--things are heating up.

Man is less kind to man, much less. Everyone is angry--our morals are dropping. Even the difference between when I was a kid and now is tremendous.

What do you mean when you ask if God hates the world?No, He is allowing sin to reap its destructive force.. God will make a new earth, and everything will be restored to it pre Fall state.

Why is it people hate on the world?

Hasnt it got better? Rather than worse?

No, it certainly has not gotten better.

 

[MatthewG]

No, it certainly has not gotten better.

What about medicine and treatments and surgeries for people compared to the early days?

Either way your totally entitled to the way you see things.

Wasnt it Jesus who said that God so loved the world? God couldnt hate the world (everyone in it); if sin had been paid for, already.

Unless Jesus wasnt real and everything was a facade everything since his death and resurrection got better in atleast one way; the wrath would never again be poured out; and life still goes on; if Jesus never did come or never died on the cross i believe the human race would have stopped existing or it would still be imperfect without resurrection.

Anyway its just a question and thank you for sharing.

 

[Keiw]

God hate the world, and he gonna destroy it. He gonna put humans in a pit of fire and let them flail around while he is gloried by the host of Heaven who sings him praise.


Got the picture?

Thats not true at all.

God loved the world (everyone in it), that is why He sent his Word, who later after resurrection became the only begotten Son.

No where does it ever say God will destroy the earth again; and in fact its gonna be established still once you leave here. The lake of fire is some type of purging of darkness out of another and comes from God in my opinion and its not as evil as one may think but for a purpose of good.

Why is it people hate on the world?

Hasnt it got better? Rather than worse?

What is your perception?

There sure is alot of confusion about what the bible really teaches. Few on earth know what Jesus actually teaches. Billions claim to follow him, but Few know what he teaches. Proof of ones love is by obeying Jesus the bible says. hard to do if one doesn't know what he taught.
The first answer to your op the man has Matt 6:33--yet Few know what it says. They can read the words but fail to realize 100% --his righteousness=YHWH(Jehovah)

 

[Cassandra]

What about medicine and treatments and surgeries for people compared to the early days?

Either way your totally entitled to the way you see things.

Wasnt it Jesus who said that God so loved the world? God couldnt hate the world (everyone in it); if sin had been paid for, already.

Unless Jesus wasnt real and everything was a facade everything since his death and resurrection got better in atleast one way; the wrath would never again be poured out; and life still goes on; if Jesus never did come or never died on the cross i believe the human race would have stopped existing or it would still be imperfect without resurrection.

Anyway its just a question and thank you for sharing.

Medicine? All the mass shootings and the floods, famines, etc, and you say medicine???

You think that if God loves the world He wants to keep it this way? It was supposed to be an eternal paradise. sin is destroying it.
I cannot believe you really believe this. I think you are pulling our leg.

 

[MatthewG]

Cassandra,

People been dying since the murder of Cain.

Its not that these problems of social ills doesnt exist; its not me who can change a life - its the Lord Jesus Christ.

God has made provisions in my opinion for people to be able to live within his kingdom spiritually.

People become his chilrden being adopted by faith, to have hope to go to the new spriitual kingdom.

People may believe God will make this world perfect and you can go hug lions and what not; but i dont think that is the truth of what God has done already, @Cassandra. I love you if you are someone who believes that this so called change will happen for you in your life one day; i only see it happening though at death.

Science and medication has came a long way from throwing poopy water out in the streets over passer bys, and bloodletting.


But murder and stuff; jesus died and so will we; and its not to make a mockery out of death as people lose those who are close to them and need consolation; by the spirit.

But if you like others are looking at the world as though its a bad place; it really is dependant on the life one has experienced and issues that are worked through and looking at Jesus to have peace with God.

Many people are in need of actually knowing God and knowing Jesus to have newness of life; thats up to individuals to either hide that news or bring it forth to others.

My life is not perfect but i also dont hate the world or see it as terrible as others may… its just the world and its all flesh and it all goes away one day but while we are here we are to love our neighbor ; the fellow crack head; the murderer, the abuser who abused ones children and so and so forth as Christians.

 

[MatthewG]

There sure is alot of confusion about what the bible really teaches. Few on earth know what Jesus actually teaches. Billions claim to follow him, but Few know what he teaches. Proof of ones love is by obeying Jesus the bible says. hard to do if one doesn't know what he taught.
The first answer to your op the man has Matt 6:33--yet Few know what it says. They can read the words but fail to realize 100% --his righteousness=YHWH(Jehovah)

That is true you dont know what you dont know until you see it and know it for sure. But we cant even see God and we have faith that God sent his Son; who we never seen either. So knowing, belief - are all subjective.

 

[MatthewG]

Cassandra,

People been dying since the murder of Cain.

Its not that these problems of social ills doesnt exist; its not me who can change a life - its the Lord Jesus Christ.

God has made provisions in my opinion for people to be able to live within his kingdom spiritually.

People become his chilrden being adopted by faith, to have hope to go to the new spriitual kingdom.


Science and medication has came a long way from throwing poopy water out in the streets over passer bys, and bloodletting.


But murder and stuff; jesus died and so will we; and its not to make a mockery out of death as people lose those who are close to them and need consolation; by the spirit.



Many people are in need of actually knowing God and knowing Jesus to have newness of life; thats up to individuals to either hide that news or bring it forth to others.

Guess the only point i did not address is Sin was taken care of Jesus Christ for all people believer or not; to learn how to die to sin is to die from a life of no prayer to a life of prayer and seeking God to be in ones life; darkness can ruin and take people away from the light; especially with the spirits of the World. Spirit of greed, hatred, etc…


Sin has been taken care of once on the cross; now ots up to individuals who wanna believe and seek after God to share with those who have the same affinity. And openly dialouge sometimes with others at certain points in your life while praying and asking God to help you by the spirit of course.

 

[face2face]

God hate the world....

It hated him first!
He created all the good bits and the bad bits He will purge.
F2F

 

[Jack]

There sure is alot of confusion about what the bible really teaches. Few on earth know what Jesus actually teaches. Billions claim to follow him, but Few know what he teaches. Proof of ones love is by obeying Jesus the bible says. hard to do if one doesn't know what he taught.
The first answer to your op the man has Matt 6:33--yet Few know what it says. They can read the words but fail to realize 100% --his righteousness=YHWH(Jehovah)

Says the Watch Tower!

 

[MatthewG]

It hated him first!
He created all the good bits and the bad bits He will purge.
F2F

Wasnt that Jesus who said something if the world hates you, just know they hated me first? The world at large for him was the Jewish nation. The world i know is what i put myself under to experience. Will people hate you for beliving in jesus even down play you? For faith? Absolutely. Gotta spirtiually minded and strong in this world in order not to turn away from God in unbelief.