In Answer To: "Where Do We Hide From Evil?"

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What is the coming "great tribulation" our Lord Jesus warned us about in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 REALLY... going to be like? It ain't... gonna' be how the majority of preachers today are preaching it.

Firstly, those in Christ Jesus do NOT... have to go anywhere and hide from the evil that is coming upon this earth. Our Lord Jesus expects His servants to make a 'stand' for Him. That's what Apostle Paul was ultimately pointing to in Ephesians 6 about putting on the whole armour of God so as to 'stand'... in the "evil day" (Eph.6:13).

Will it be all out World War III? No! Absolutely not! Those who think it is are confusing the time of God's cup of wrath poured out upon the wicked, which happens on the day Christ ENDS the tribulation with His coming (Rev.16:14-17; Rev.19; Ezek.38 & 39; 2 Pet.3:10; 1 Thess.5:3; Zephaniah 3:8).
Matt 24:6
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars:
see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
(KJV)



Read that above, simply. Our Lord Jesus said we would hear of wars and rumours of wars, but... what??? WWIII would happen with that? No! Read that part in bold red. Let it sink in. He said with wars and rumours of wars going on, don't... be troubled, why? Those things must happen first but... what? But the end is not... yet!

"Well I thought when the whole earth went to war in the last days, that's what the tribulation would be about, and that Jesus promised to rapture me out of it?", some might say. Those saying that are... WRONG. They are not LISTENING to what our Lord Jesus said there.

So what's the OPPOSITE of that "wars and rumours of wars" that our Lord Jesus said to not be troubled about? The opposite of that is a time of... world peace! Let me say that again, WORLD PEACE, though a false... peace. It will be a false peace by Satan's host on earth. And it means NO MORE WAR in that time ("Who is like the beast? who is able to make war with him?" - Rev.13:4).

'Do we have a witness?' Yes... here's another witness to that fact from Apostle Paul...


In the following Scripture Apostle Paul had just finished speaking to the Thessalonians about Christ's second coming back at 1 Thess.4. Then Paul goes into the following about events leading up to Christ's return and gathering of His Church...


1Thes 5:2-4
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
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For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
(KJV)



The "day of the Lord" there is about the time of our Lord Jesus' second coming and gathering of His Church to Him. But what's that Paul says about those who will be saying, "Peace and safety", and then... sudden destruction will come upon them??

Just what... "Peace and safety"? If the coming tribulation is supposed to be all out nuclear WWIII like many preachers in the pulpits are teaching today, then how is it Apostle Paul reveals this time of "Peace and safety" the deceived will be declaring, just prior to that "sudden destruction" coming upon them?

OK, so what is that "sudden destruction" time upon them? When is that for? That's is the day of The LORD timing Paul started that subject there about, the time of Christ's return to this earth to defeat His enemies, God's cup of wrath poured upon 'them'.

Now... move that timeline back just a little bit, just prior to the "day of the Lord", just prior to that time of "sudden destruction". What timing do you think that is just prior to Christ's coming? That's right, the "great tribulation" timing!

So how can the tribulation time be about a time of "Peace and safety"? That's what those will be saying in that time, meaning the deceived that will suffer the "sudden destruction". Does that align with what our Lord Jesus showed us in the Matt.24:6 Scripture about wars and rumours of wars? You bet it does!

In Dan.8:25 we're told the vile person (put for the coming Antichrist) will destroy many using 'peace'. And also that craft... will prosper by his hand. That's like 'a chicken in every pot'! Healed world economy! Everybody's got work!

But The LORD showed us elsewhere (like Ezek.13), it would be a time of false peace, and even many of the preachers over His people would be preaching that fake world peace in the end, like daubing a wall with untempered mortar. There's already plenty of Churches today getting on board with today's Internationalist's world peace plan, the NWO one world government movement.

This means brethren, the great tribulation is not going to be bad at all for those who side with Satan's host and wicked rulers over the earth in that time. Sadly, that will be the majority of the world that will side with the beast and his world kingdom of our near future. You want to know WHY the wealth of the Christian nations is being removed and given to the unbelieving nations? and even our power to defend our nation and peoples?

It is to create a 'world balance' between haves and the have nots. It's called World Socialism. That is what we are under today, and it is in prep for Satan's host coming to this earth to take rule over it during... the coming tribulation, along with the false messiah setup in Christ's place as 'world king'.

Can you tell that I already well 'know' what Satan's servants on earth today are up to? Can you see it too? Are you afraid of it? of them? DON'T BE!

When the majority of the world loves their 'chicken in every pot', and sign over their souls to the coming dragon and his beast kingdom saying, "Peace and safety" at last... WE brethren, are going to be EASY to single out. Where will we HIDE? WE DON'T HAVE TO HIDE, BECAUSE VICTORY ALREADY IS OURS, THROUGH CHRIST JESUS!

So tighten up your shoelaces, pull up your britches, and make a STAND for Christ Jesus! Do we physically fight then? No! We put on the whole armour of God like Apostle Paul said, and make a stand for Christ Jesus in that "evil day", being prepared with The Gospel of Jesus Christ and HIS Testimony by The Holy Spirit!


Our Lord Jesus told us how to act for that time... even the gainsayer won't be able to resist the Witness by The Holy Spirit we shall give against the wicked rulers of this world during the coming tribulation...

Luke 21:12-19
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for My name's sake.
13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
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For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for My name's sake.
18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
19 In your patience possess ye your souls.
(KJV)
 

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veteran said:
Can you tell that I already well 'know' what Satan's servants on earth today are up to? Can you see it too? Are you afraid of it? of them? DON'T BE!

WE brethren, are going to be EASY to single out. Where will we HIDE? WE DON'T HAVE TO HIDE, BECAUSE VICTORY ALREADY IS OURS, THROUGH CHRIST JESUS!

Luke 21:12-19
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for My name's sake.


16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
How do you not be afraid when your imprisoned or put to death if you testify of Christ? It may be a spiritual victory, but at a physical cost. I wonder who's strong enough not to chicken-out when they are delivered up? It will be a scary scenario if the choice is to go along with the program or die. It sounds easy now, but I think when a person is delivered up to death (antiChrist), most will say whatever's necessary to escape it, instead of giving their true testimony. To avoid wimping out, trying to hide-out sounds like a prudent thing to do? Do you think it would be acceptable to God if we duck and weave during the tribulation? Some people are actually building shelters and storing food for the purpose of hiding-out during that time. Sounds like a plan to me, unless God expects us to face the music?
 

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Dan57 said:
How do you not be afraid when your imprisoned or put to death if you testify of Christ? It may be a spiritual victory, but at a physical cost. I wonder who's strong enough not to chicken-out when they are delivered up? It will be a scary scenario if the choice is to go along with the program or die. It sounds easy now, but I think when a person is delivered up to death (antiChrist), most will say whatever's necessary to escape it, instead of giving their true testimony. To avoid wimping out, trying to hide-out sounds like a prudent thing to do? Do you think it would be acceptable to God if we duck and weave during the tribulation? Some people are actually building shelters and storing food for the purpose of hiding-out during that time. Sounds like a plan to me, unless God expects us to face the music?
Some of us will be killed, like our Lord Jesus already... told us. He said not to fear flesh death either, and why? Because death of our flesh body does not mean the end of our existence at all.

There won't.... be... any place to hide on this earth. And we certainly are not going to be raptured either, for Christ's gathering of His Church on earth won't occur until AFTER... the tribulation like He and His Apostles said (Matt.24:29-31; Mark 13:24-27; 1 Cor.15; 1 Thess.4; John 5:28-29).

Now I'm not against one trying... to hide if they think that's what The LORD wants them to do. But for His elect servants that are to be delivered up, they have that as a 'duty' directly to our Lord Jesus, and to seek to get out of that duty would be like direct rebellion against Him. He knows which ones of us will be delivered up to give His Testimony, and He will prepare those. You can count on it.
 

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For some reason, I have always understood the Tribulation to be what the world does to Believers, and the Day of the Lord, Wrath, to be what God does to unbelievers That we will indeed suffer tribulation but not wrath. Using the terms interchangeably confuses the issue.

As far as being afraid and hiding we should be cautious of extremes. We should certainly be afraid to trust in our own strength, but we should not be afraid to trust God's promise to give us the strength to endure. Preparation is good, but the focus of our preparation should be storing God's word in our memories rather than food in our pantries. After all, God fed the Israelites in the desert and Elijah by the stream, and He can certainly do it again when the world cuts off our ability to buy food and earn a living. If you understand Jesus words to the Apostles on the Mount of Olives to apply to both the first and last generations of Christians, then we can draw great comfort from what he said. He said that there would be tribulation such as had never happened before or would again. If you apply this only to the last generation, it is a somewhat pointless statement because Jesus coming would of course prevent it happening. But if you apply it to the tribulation of the first generation, as referred to in the letter to the Church at Smyrna (ten days of tribulation) and as described in Foxes Book of Martyrs as ten periods of persecution, His promise that it will never be that bad again is a source of comfort and strength. If He could sustain them through what they suffered, then we can depend on Him to get us through a lesser suffering.