Well when Jesus says that he has a Father and God in Scripture that's what I'm going to believe.
GINOLJC, to all
first thanks for the reply, second, there is no "well" nothing, "Father" is a title. if you're a soldier, or a serviceman, or servicewoman, in the military, you have a
UNCLE name "SAM", as in uncle Sam. when will you get it through your head that "Father" here, is not biological, but the title or the term Father simply means "SOURCE" or the the "First" in order of time and place. notice Genesis 4:20 "And Adah bare Jabal:
he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle." he was a father, in the sense that he was just the "FIRST" to dwell in Tents. are you getting this? my God how hard is it to understand.
now listen, John 20:17 "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to
my Father: but go to
my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto
my Father, and
your Father; and to
my God, and
your God."
question, is God Mary Magdalene Father in a biological sense? but did not as you say, "JESUS said", well JESUS say, God was her Father also, but is not Jesus the "only" begotten of God...... (smile), see how ignorant your thinking is. but as you say, "Jesus said", well Jesus said Gopd was here Father too, care to explane that? ... never mind.
now is not the "Lord", notice how Lord is spelled, is not the "Lord" the Father? 2 Corinthians 6:17 "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,"
2 Corinthians 6:18 "And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters,
saith the Lord Almighty." WHO IS THE "Lord" ALMIGHTY Barney? lets see, John 13:13 "Ye call me Master
and Lord: and ye say well;
for so I am." now barney you have a problem, for if the LORD who is GOD is the Father, and the Lord who is God is the Father and you say they are not the same person, well you just violated scripture, for the bible clearly states, there is only one "Father". John 8:41 "Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have
one Father, even God." now this, 1 Corinthians 8:6 "But to us there is but
one God, the Father, of whom are
all things, and we in him; and
one Lord Jesus Christ,
by whom are all things, and we by him." who made all things.... see John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24.... (smile). see THOMAS got it right my "Lord" (who is God), the diversified "spirit, that was in Flesh, G2758 κενόω kenoo. and My (God) the Spirit in that Flesh now enpowered by the Spirit that is his from the beginning, John 17:5 "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine
own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." what was JESUS befeore the world was? answer, Spirit, supportive scripture, 1 Peter 1:11 "Searching what, or what manner of time
the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow." WHO? the Spirit... let that sink in... the "Spirit"... and HOW MANY "Spirit" IS THERE? ONLY ONE. BINGO
when Jesus say MY FATHER, which art in heaven, he's saying "MY Spirit" which is in heaven. that's him, JESUS, the Spirit, the Holy Spirit, diversified in heaven abd on earth.
say what? my God how slow can one be to learn. you say you read your bible FINE, "BUT ARE YOU UNDERSTANDING IT?"
one more and I'm going to leave this alone. Revelation 3:12 "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of
my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of
my God, and the name of the city of
my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from
my God: and
I will write upon him my new name."
see you can read something, but yet not understand it. listem "my" here is ME. while in the diverse state MY GOD is his "Spirit". supportive scripture, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold:
therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto
me; and my fury, it upheld
me."
"MINE" as a Pronoun, used to refer to a thing or things
belonging to or associated with the speaker. MY GOD is MY "Spirit", for God is a "Spirit". are the light blubs coming on now?
MY God is me, the diversified "Spirit" that is me in heaven while I'm on earth also at the same time, John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."
I keep saying this, while on earth in flesh "diverse", or shared in flesh, Jesus is on earth talking to Nicodemus, at the same exact time in heaven running or upholding the universe. THIS IS PLAIN AS DAY.
well you keep on using that old lame worn out excuse, "Jesus said", but do you "UNDERSTAND" what Jesus said? that's the problem.
as the proverb clearly states, Proverbs 4:7 "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom:
and with all thy getting get understanding."
NOW, you say you believe what Jesus say, ok, John 8:58 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."
now Jesus said that, but do you UNDERSTAND what Jesus said......
I hope God... no "MY" God open your closed eyes... we suggest you re-read this post for ....... WISDOM and UNDERSTANDING.
Good Day.
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"