The post was to you, so I thought that it would be only fair to have your opinion on my remark, in case you feel that I'm leading AR astray.
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Yes, but by you telling her to seek God's advice, it implies that that is what you do.
Uh, oh, looks like man has a spirit to. Eisegesis!!!!
Ecclesiastes 3:21
Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth?
It was insulting to a certain degree. I meant what I said, for we all wish that it was that easy, call on God anytime we like. The people who claim to do so are usually self-righteous. like I said, it requires a great deal of humility and faith for God to be able to communicate with us so readily. And, empirically speaking, I've always found that those who do state that the Holy Spirit guides them in Scriptural matters, are typically the worst exegetes.
That was extremely incompetent. It is the Spirit of man that Paul is referring to.
Ecclesiastes 3:21
Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth?
I think we went thru this already, but it's pretty clear if Jesus can resurrect himself with his own power back to life from being crucified and punctured dead with a spear, then he is a god at minimum no matter what kind of Eisegesis you're claiming. Saying anything else is just nonsense.
Likewise if the Spirit of God can create the heavens and earth by moving on it, which is not really speculative, then the Spirit "of" God is God, not that the term "Spirit of God" is not sufficient in determination of the spirit being God.
Rom 8:26, Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Rom 8:27, And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Rom 8:27, And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
April_Rose
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Maybe you're right JD. I may have judged a bit quickly, possibly? It just seemed as a flippant response. I've heard it too many times from some of the worst exegetes, that the Holy Spirit guides them in all Biblical interpretation.
You are correct what you said, but, like I said, it requires a great deal of humility and faith to have that communication with God. I prefer to offer a response of my own, and let the people decide from where I received my inspiration.
Sorry, if I was mistaken about your intent, or misunderstood your context.
Of course a man can claim that the Holy Spirit illuminates his study of God's word and also leave it up to the reader to decide as to whether anything he says is truly valid.
I also encourage my readers to be Bereans (Acts of the Apostles 17:10-11) concerning all that I post; because while I do ask for the Holy Spirit to illuminate my study of the word and also believe that God answers me in the affirmative; I also have a mental illness and therefore anything that I say might be off-base.
Therefore I will tell you that it is important that you check everything I say by the word of the Lord.
i may have been a bit quick to make the accusation, just because I've heard it too many times on this forum. I like JD, and may have misconstrued her response to you. For that , I apologize. But again, I am cynical and indignant to those who claim that the holy Spirit guides them in interpretation. Their words should be able to speak for themselves.
And, back to the point. The advice to you should be, yes, pray for insight from God, but in the meantime, reject anything that you can't comprehend, or that does not bring glory to God.
Fortunately the doctrine of the Trinity is comprehensible when you really look at it.
Although for many years there were many who have not understood it and have therefore deferred to Isaiah 55:8-9 when it came to the concept of understanding it as a doctrine.
True Trinity.
I would agree with you at the very start, but, i am rather skeptical about you saying that God answers you in the affirmative. This is the whole point of my contention, that you believe that your insights have been derived from God Himself
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