Israel to be kept safe during the Great Tribulation

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Perhaps you should re-read Roman 7.

With Best Regards,
ELAM (with bobby jo doing the typing)
You can't surely believe that the Apostle Paul was carnal sold under sin or captive to the law of sin which dwelt in his members. That when he wanted to do good he did evil.

He begins Romans 7 saying ".... I am speaking to those who know the law

verse 5.
while we were living in the flesh [Saul of Tarsus] our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death.

The whole chapter describes how the law affect us when we are in our sinful flesh.

He wanted to do good, he had a zeal for God but instead he killed the christians, he did evil instead.

wretched man, who will deliver him from that body of death? thanks be to God through Jesus Christ.
 

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No I did all that my dad told me to do, looking back I am amassed at what a good child I was never back chat him ever, so as to being a rascal no not at all.

Sin is another thing, such is blindness of this world's delusions and temptations, when one becomes truly born again then one as power over Sin because you have a handle on such, that does not mean that such a one is not a Sinner, but only that one is not lost to Sin.

No True Christian falls from Grace.

The Jews are nothing, if one has no Grace one is chaff.

Israel is not a race at all, it's a way of life under God abiding in God, serving God.

The Jews do not exist and have not existed now for 2000 years in fact, what you have is people making stupid claims that they are Jews.
The only point that could be related to one claiming to be a Jew is, because they are following the OT but they do not in fact follow the OT, because if they did follow the OT I would be glad that one did as that would make one worthy of such in their deeds, but they are clearly not.

If the Jews as such were worthy and seriously into the OT then they would know and abide in Holy Moses, it's only then that they could come to know Jesus is the Christ in fact, just as it was 2000 years ago with the few who had faith in Jesus and they had this faith in him because they were in fact worthy to be called Israelites, the rest were not worthy of such a title as they were just only Jews, that's something like water baptised Christians are sort of on the same level.

For a Jew to be worthy they must abide totally in Holy Moses, sadly no so called Jew nowadays does such because they are into much deceptions in there so called religions, that they are under great delusions, the Talmud for one is a great Whore of insanity that makes them worship Satan.

Any true Christian wishes all to come to Christ Jesus in fact. but don't be fooled into idolising anyone regardless of who or what the may claim they are.

I myself am from a Jewish blood line, my sir name is Jewish and I grew up with and know many Jews, I have no delusions about them and I do not idolise anyone at all regardless of who or what they are. I understand the nature of original Sin. even a worthy Jew is not that stupid to idolise Man.

Who on earth would be stupid enough to pretend to be a Jew? they are hated by everyone, [just as christians are] Who in Germany in the 30s would have pretended to be a Jew if he wasn't a Jew, or in any of the nations they occupied. Who in Russia would pretend to be a Jew?

It is a fantastic miracle how after being made to wander from nation to nation they have kept their ethnicity and they are now in their ancient homeland ... just as the prophet said

They were chosen as a nation, they prospered as a nation, they fell as a nation and they will be reconciled as a nation. as it is written of them.
 

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No I did all that my dad told me to do, looking back I am amassed at what a good child I was never back chat him ever, so as to being a rascal no not at all.

Sin is another thing, such is blindness of this world's delusions and temptations, when one becomes truly born again then one as power over Sin because you have a handle on such, that does not mean that such a one is not a Sinner, but only that one is not lost to Sin.

No True Christian falls from Grace.

The Jews are nothing, if one has no Grace one is chaff.

Israel is not a race at all, it's a way of life under God abiding in God, serving God.

The Jews do not exist and have not existed now for 2000 years in fact, what you have is people making stupid claims that they are Jews.
The only point that could be related to one claiming to be a Jew is, because they are following the OT but they do not in fact follow the OT, because if they did follow the OT I would be glad that one did as that would make one worthy of such in their deeds, but they are clearly not.

If the Jews as such were worthy and seriously into the OT then they would know and abide in Holy Moses, it's only then that they could come to know Jesus is the Christ in fact, just as it was 2000 years ago with the few who had faith in Jesus and they had this faith in him because they were in fact worthy to be called Israelites, the rest were not worthy of such a title as they were just only Jews, that's something like water baptised Christians are sort of on the same level.

For a Jew to be worthy they must abide totally in Holy Moses, sadly no so called Jew nowadays does such because they are into much deceptions in there so called religions, that they are under great delusions, the Talmud for one is a great Whore of insanity that makes them worship Satan.

Any true Christian wishes all to come to Christ Jesus in fact. but don't be fooled into idolising anyone regardless of who or what the may claim they are.

I myself am from a Jewish blood line, my sir name is Jewish and I grew up with and know many Jews, I have no delusions about them and I do not idolise anyone at all regardless of who or what they are. I understand the nature of original Sin. even a worthy Jew is not that stupid to idolise Man.

I love the Jews I do not idolise them, I know what they were, I know what they are now, and I know what they shall be.
 

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Who on earth would be stupid enough to pretend to be a Jew? they are hated by everyone, [just as christians are] Who in Germany in the 30s would have pretended to be a Jew if he wasn't a Jew, or in any of the nations they occupied. Who in Russia would pretend to be a Jew?

It is a fantastic miracle how after being made to wander from nation to nation they have kept their ethnicity and they are now in their ancient homeland ... just as the prophet said

They were chosen as a nation, they prospered as a nation, they fell as a nation and they will be reconciled as a nation. as it is written of them.
From about 1990 I came across people who were idolising so called Jews ? the MSM also started idolising so called Jews. I had JW's come to me door and wanted to kiss my feet when they knew my sir name, I said no ! Christians do not do that.

In Australia I have never come across people who hate Jews ever as a person or as some morons claim a race. such is only because of the history of the so called Jews cunning devious ways that they have undermined Nations and ripped off people totally, so when I see a professional for the first time, Doctors etc they mainly say Oh your Jewish 9 times out of 10 and I state that I am a Christian directly and then I see them come from different angles, some reflect directly with Oh they did not want to offend me as to the greed side of such Jews history, but a few make stupid claims like, lucky your dad got out in time etc but I do not bother to inform them that my family tree in Australia was many years before Hitler was even born.

My dad admired the Jews for all their good quality's in business and quality craftsmanship etc, but he despised the greed side of such so called bastard Jews. Most right wing people were that way, but the Left in the 70's etc were idiots who only ranted about the bad side of everything as such people are mainly narrow minded and short sighted, just as they are nowadays, but only the simple mindedness of such people can be turned around easy given a few years of reprograming, because such people are dupes that fall in line with the trends fashions, they look to others for encouragement in numbers, they will not speak out of there comfort zone on issues in a group, as they just go with the flow in making out that they are all so smart on subjects, not to mention that if one comes out on points that are not pedestrian they will look to all around them and then start making claims that such a one is out of line with there indoctrination.
Nowadays the young may pull out their phone and look up what you said and then come back and say in amassment, you know you were right you know. they only look up such to try and prove you wrong. but they think anyone who stands up outside of the pedestrian is silly. because they think that they are well educated, but they have never been truly educated because the Schooling industry is not about education, sadly in the main it's only about indoctrination.

True Christianity is a Nation of people under Christ Jesus and has nothing to do with ones race at all, as all are as one, as there is no Jew or Greek etc under Christ Jesus flock and anyone who claims otherwise is of Satan.
 

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I love the Jews I do not idolise them, I know what they were, I know what they are now, and I know what they shall be.
When Christianity shall be as One you mean, under Christ Jesus.

When the works of Satan is truly exposed in this world.

The problem with this worlds Churches is that they are all about themselves first and foremost. One must be Truly born a gain to understand that such Churches in this world are not worthy of Christ Jesus and that's why they have failed to inspire them of faith. sadly they have picked up on this world and promote Socialism as their gods way, such is a Mans works doctrine.
The RCC with Vatican II is a Mans works inspired dribble and now all Churches are on that page.
 

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When Christianity shall be as One you mean, under Christ Jesus.

When the works of Satan is truly exposed in this world.

The problem with this worlds Churches is that they are all about themselves first and foremost. One must be Truly born a gain to understand that such Churches in this world are not worthy of Christ Jesus and that's why they have failed to inspire them of faith. sadly they have picked up on this world and promote Socialism as their gods way, such is a Mans works doctrine.
The RCC with Vatican II is a Mans works inspired dribble and now all Churches are on that page.

I think the church is on fire in China and Africa and on the march in India ... for such a HUGE country and such a big hearted people as the U.S. they can be very insular and inward looking sometimes. [edit I just saw you are an Aussie Jew, apologies]

The church is never in the wrong place so far as God is concerned. God can bring about revival at any time and in any place that He chooses, He doesn't need anybody's permission. Do you know how I know that?

Because when He descends from Heaven with a shout the WHOLE church will rise to meet Him and we shall be without spot or wrinkle or any such thing. That is when we shall be united as well.

But you will still have the Jews who have received promises different to the church which promises have not yet been fulfilled.

They will be fulfilled in he Millennial reign.
 

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I think the church is on fire in China and Africa and on the march in India ... for such a HUGE country and such a big hearted people as the U.S. they can be very insular and inward looking sometimes. [edit I just saw you are an Aussie Jew, apologies]

The church is never in the wrong place so far as God is concerned. God can bring about revival at any time and in any place that He chooses, He doesn't need anybody's permission. Do you know how I know that?

Because when He descends from Heaven with a shout the WHOLE church will rise to meet Him and we shall be without spot or wrinkle or any such thing. That is when we shall be united as well.

But you will still have the Jews who have received promises different to the church which promises have not yet been fulfilled.

They will be fulfilled in he Millennial reign.

I see that the Churches are hopeless nowadays the world over, what they promote nowadays is just mans works Socialism and they don't stand for nothing as to Jesus Christ. so we have a false Christian movement that is no promoting Jesus Christ at all, but only their religions ?
Religion never Saved anyone. the Jews could not Save themselves, just as new age Christianity promoting religion is worthless without Jesus Christ.

New age type of Christianity is in bed with the world and under the thumb of Governments who reject Jesus Christ in fact.

Half of the world's people may have some blood line to the original Jewish people you know. how does one put a value on such % is just from that, so it just becomes stupid to make a claim of being such in reality.
In Australia a Aboriginal was defined as a Full blood and mixed was just only a Half cast to what ever, not worthy of being called a Aboriginal at all in fact, but nowadays they make stupid claims that are delusions, so such sends strong delusions. to people who don't know or do not care regardless for reality, so they live a lie and this becomes a code for them ? they stand over the true Aboriginals in fact dominating over them, but the majority of Australians are brainwashed nowadays by the media and Government dribbling tactics that are that of a great Whore that is totally deceptive, if anyone mentions the facts of the truth such a one will be attacked with total Malice in twisting and turning whatever one says into something that has noting to do with what such a one is truly saying at all. it's called the old switch a roo = turning the tables on one and promoting total BS, so as to keep all in the dark of ones real point of view. slandering ones true position and the thing is they have millions of dollars and spin doctors on hand not to mention the ability to cut and paste all in the TV studio with many people involved in the con job conspiring against anyone who comes along that does not fit into their creation of there carnal deranged Godless world.

I remember Pope JP2 on the position of the State being called Israel, every night for years the media challenged Pope JP2 as a total idiot ? they knew better than he did in fact ? without even having any regard for the bible at all, so where they were coming from was, the ignorant side of the coin.
Oh look dill pickle can see a State was being called Israel now ? not that they understand what the word means, nor does the majority care less, it could be called Donald Duck, but if it was called D Duck ? such is nothing in the name at all, so to deny such a naming who would give such a 2ed thought ? but to call something Israel is a big deal if you do understand what such truly in details.

Honest true dedicated OT Jews do not claim that it is Israel, but they hope that it will become Israel one day.
 

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First half of the Tribulation: National Israel is safe while they become Christians. The "rest of her offspring" are lukewarm Christians who must cleanse their robes in the blood of the Lamb. They will be martyred.

Rev. 12:16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Last half of the Tribulation: Beast goes after the saints, both newly converted Jews and Christians that have overcome.

Revelation 13:7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.
 

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First half of the Tribulation: National Israel is safe while they become Christians. The "rest of her offspring" are lukewarm Christians who must cleanse their robes in the blood of the Lamb. They will be martyred.

Rev. 12:16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Last half of the Tribulation: Beast goes after the saints, both newly converted Jews and Christians that have overcome.

Revelation 13:7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.

I agree that the great crowd the Revelator saw in heaven which no man could number are martyrs who come out of the great tribulation rather than rapturees.
 

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I see that the Churches are hopeless nowadays the world over, what they promote nowadays is just mans works Socialism and they don't stand for nothing as to Jesus Christ. so we have a false Christian movement that is no promoting Jesus Christ at all, but only their religions ?
Religion never Saved anyone. the Jews could not Save themselves, just as new age Christianity promoting religion is worthless without Jesus Christ.

New age type of Christianity is in bed with the world and under the thumb of Governments who reject Jesus Christ in fact.

Half of the world's people may have some blood line to the original Jewish people you know. how does one put a value on such % is just from that, so it just becomes stupid to make a claim of being such in reality.
In Australia a Aboriginal was defined as a Full blood and mixed was just only a Half cast to what ever, not worthy of being called a Aboriginal at all in fact, but nowadays they make stupid claims that are delusions, so such sends strong delusions. to people who don't know or do not care regardless for reality, so they live a lie and this becomes a code for them ? they stand over the true Aboriginals in fact dominating over them, but the majority of Australians are brainwashed nowadays by the media and Government dribbling tactics that are that of a great Whore that is totally deceptive, if anyone mentions the facts of the truth such a one will be attacked with total Malice in twisting and turning whatever one says into something that has noting to do with what such a one is truly saying at all. it's called the old switch a roo = turning the tables on one and promoting total BS, so as to keep all in the dark of ones real point of view. slandering ones true position and the thing is they have millions of dollars and spin doctors on hand not to mention the ability to cut and paste all in the TV studio with many people involved in the con job conspiring against anyone who comes along that does not fit into their creation of there carnal deranged Godless world.

I remember Pope JP2 on the position of the State being called Israel, every night for years the media challenged Pope JP2 as a total idiot ? they knew better than he did in fact ? without even having any regard for the bible at all, so where they were coming from was, the ignorant side of the coin.
Oh look dill pickle can see a State was being called Israel now ? not that they understand what the word means, nor does the majority care less, it could be called Donald Duck, but if it was called D Duck ? such is nothing in the name at all, so to deny such a naming who would give such a 2ed thought ? but to call something Israel is a big deal if you do understand what such truly in details.

Honest true dedicated OT Jews do not claim that it is Israel, but they hope that it will become Israel one day.

Why don't you look above all this stuff and see what God is doing? He's doing plenty.
 

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The Great Tribulation is none other than "the time of Jacob's trouble" tribulation is taken from the word trouble.
There is only one place in the bible where we find the term "Jacob's trouble" although the time of trouble is mentioned several times.

So what does God say about it?
Jeremiah.30 vs. 5
Thus says the Lord, we have heard a cry of panic, of terror and not peace
6. ask now and see can a man bear a child? why then do I see every man with his hands on his loins like a woman in labour?
why has every face turned pale?
7. Alas for that day is there is none like it, it is the time of Jacob's trouble BUT
BUT he shall be saved out of it.
8. And it shall come to pass in that day says the Lord of hosts that I will break the yoke from off their neck and I will burst their bonds and strangers shall no more make servants of them. 9. but they shall serve the Lord their God and David their king whom I will raise for them.

10. Then FEAR NOT O Jacob My servant says the Lord, NOR BE DISMAYED O Israel for lo I will save you from afar and your offspring from the land of their captivity. Jacob shall return and have QUIET AND EASE and none shall make him afraid.
11. For I am with you to save you says the Lord
I will make a full end of the nations among whom I scattered you but of you I will not make a full end.

I will chasten you in measure and I will by no means leave you unpunished.

The time of Jqacobds trouble is but one of th emany OT names for Daniels 70th week or what we call the tribulation.

Israel will not be kept safe as 2/3 of all Israelis will die during that 7 year period and teh remaining 1/3 will get saved and usher in the Lords REturn!

Zechariah 13:8-9
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8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

Romans 11:25-27
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25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
 

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IS NOT THE TRIBULATION IS NOW AS WE SPEAK ON GOING?
and Israle... Jacob is this not in reference to all christian who trust in the Lord?

the tribulation has been going on since our Lord's death, in which he made the NEW COVENANT with?

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Why don't you look above all this stuff and see what God is doing? He's doing plenty.
I see plenty of mans works being done in the name of Man in the churches. but not much in the way of any real true regard as to Jesus Christ.

People are so obsessed with the end of times and the so called Jews and the pathetic rapture lies, that they have forgotten who Jesus Christ truly is.
It anyone is looking for the second coming you are lost ! or such a one is not Saved. because if one is truly Born again then you are as one with Jesus Christ and he is within you, so such a one is in the Kingdom of God = Saved. such a one is Israel ! it does not matter when the Hellfire comes because such a one's Soul is saved, ones flesh may die in the Hellfire but the main thing is the Soul. one should not give in to your flesh and loose your Soul. so if one keeps solid in Christ is the point and do not be swayed into selling out your Soul to this world as one can not serve two masers. the flesh is weak, but the Spirit is willing and as such we can move mountains. the other way we can not cut it at all. so do not look forward to the rapture as it is darkness and Hellfire that comes first.
I have seen many who can not wait for the rapture, they have been sucked in as to believing that they are going to be raptured out before the Hellfire, but no they will all go through the Hellfire that they have created, one reaps what you sow and the rapture comes because of what they sowed was not of Jesus Christ at all, but of Mans works. I can see it all. I can see their works and I am not impressed at all as I know where such will lead.
The creation of the State claimed to be Israel is a sick joke ! do you know who created it, Lord Rothschild claims the glory of all such was all their doing in fact he has said so. I seen on TV Pope Francis giving up his position of authority to Lord Rothschild like a mongrel dog, just as a underling sub serving under the Pope does.

Satanist are doing plenty, I can see that even in the churches.
 

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I see plenty of mans works being done in the name of Man in the churches. but not much in the way of any real true regard as to Jesus Christ.

People are so obsessed with the end of times and the so called Jews and the pathetic rapture lies, that they have forgotten who Jesus Christ truly is.
It anyone is looking for the second coming you are lost ! or such a one is not Saved. because if one is truly Born again then you are as one with Jesus Christ and he is within you, so such a one is in the Kingdom of God = Saved. such a one is Israel ! it does not matter when the Hellfire comes because such a one's Soul is saved, ones flesh may die in the Hellfire but the main thing is the Soul. one should not give in to your flesh and loose your Soul. so if one keeps solid in Christ is the point and do not be swayed into selling out your Soul to this world as one can not serve two masers. the flesh is weak, but the Spirit is willing and as such we can move mountains. the other way we can not cut it at all. so do not look forward to the rapture as it is darkness and Hellfire that comes first.
I have seen many who can not wait for the rapture, they have been sucked in as to believing that they are going to be raptured out before the Hellfire, but no they will all go through the Hellfire that they have created, one reaps what you sow and the rapture comes because of what they sowed was not of Jesus Christ at all, but of Mans works. I can see it all. I can see their works and I am not impressed at all as I know where such will lead.
The creation of the State claimed to be Israel is a sick joke ! do you know who created it, Lord Rothschild claims the glory of all such was all their doing in fact he has said so. I seen on TV Pope Francis giving up his position of authority to Lord Rothschild like a mongrel dog, just as a underling sub serving under the Pope does.

Satanist are doing plenty, I can see that even in the churches.

The 2nd advent is not the end of the world, it is the end of the age. It is also the beginning of the new age when Christ will reign during a 1, 000 years on earth.

So I am not looking for hell-fire.

Before the Lord returns we are warned repeatedly to watch and pray, we are warned that the days preceding His return will be perilous for the church. We are warned to expect the great end-times persecution aka as the Great Tribulation.

God is doing amazing things in the earth in these last days.
 

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The time of Jqacobds trouble is but one of th emany OT names for Daniels 70th week or what we call the tribulation.

Israel will not be kept safe as 2/3 of all Israelis will die during that 7 year period and teh remaining 1/3 will get saved and usher in the Lords REturn!

Zechariah 13:8-9
King James Version

8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

Romans 11:25-27
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25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Jeremiah say concerning the time of Jacob's trouble " fear not oh Jacob, be not dismayed oh Israel for I will save you out of it.... I will bring your children home and they will sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree and none shall make him afraid."

Zechariah in ch.13. is speaking about the fall of Israel
vs.7
"Awake o sword against My people
against the man who stands next to Me" says the Lord of hosts

"strike the Shepherd that the sheep may be scattered, I will turn My hand against the little ones"
" In the whole land " says the Lord "two thirds shall be cut off and perish ....2

Now we read in the gospel how that when Jesus was arrested the disciples fled "this was to fulfil the prophet "I will strike the Shepherd and the sheep will be scattered" So this prophecy of Zechariah has been fulfilled and shows the fall of Israel

But Zechariah.14 speaks of a different day.

Behold a day of the Lord is coming when the spoil taken from you will be divided in the midst of you. For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the houses plundered and the women ravished, half of the city will go into exile but the rest of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations as when He fights on the day of battle ....

This is clearly speaking of a different time, a time when God will fight for Israel. Ch.13 speaks about the fall of Israel in the 1st century and ch.14 speaks about the rise of Israel at the time of the end.

It corresponds to Daniel.12

At that time shall arise Michael the great prince who has charge of your people and there shall be a time of trouble such as has never been since there was a nation till that time [the great tribulation]

But at that time your people will be delivered everyone whose name shall be found in the book.
 

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The 2nd advent is not the end of the world, it is the end of the age. It is also the beginning of the new age when Christ will reign during a 1, 000 years on earth.

So I am not looking for hell-fire.

Before the Lord returns we are warned repeatedly to watch and pray, we are warned that the days preceding His return will be perilous for the church. We are warned to expect the great end-times persecution aka as the Great Tribulation.

God is doing amazing things in the earth in these last days.
It's called the second coming, this has to do with after all has been burnt to the ground so to speak and all the delusions that are cast will be lifted as such a time people will truly cry out for the Lord Jesus Christ, for they have noting at all.
Jesus Christ is Gods only begotten Son ? remember that fact.
Now when one becomes truly born again such a one is then of the Kingdom of God. then you are truly one of Gods people who are sent out among this world as a Saint in Jesus Christ among the wolfs. such a one does not cower for their lives like a coward, because there Soul is Saved.
Look at all the people of God in the Bible who stood up to the Godless.
 

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It's called the second coming, this has to do with after all has been burnt to the ground so to speak and all the delusions that are cast will be lifted as such a time people will truly cry out for the Lord Jesus Christ, for they have noting at all.
Jesus Christ is Gods only begotten Son ? remember that fact.
Now when one becomes truly born again such a one is then of the Kingdom of God. then you are truly one of Gods people who are sent out among this world as a Saint in Jesus Christ among the wolfs. such a one does not cower for their lives like a coward, because there Soul is Saved.
Look at all the people of God in the Bible who stood up to the Godless.

I think they fled, they were instructed to flee persecution. Lambs are not Lions, we are the weak and foolish in this world, the poor and those who are nothing in society ... we are not brave, we look to One who is mighty to save and protect us.
When we are filled with His Spirit He makes us bold.

Paul did not understand the second coming of our Lord in the same way the other Jewish apostles did ... he had further revelation which they did not have.

The other apossums had the Jewish understanding and they are not wrong for the world will end with a loud bang and fervent heat to the melting away of the elements.

But Paul understood there was to be a significant gap, a delay.

The delay is not between the Lord's coming and the end of the world, the gap or parenthesis is between our Lord's ascension and His coming to gather His people. The other crowd had no understanding of this, only Paul teaches the rapture. This is because only Paul understood that the church was to be established among the nations, the others thought it was to be established in Jerusalem, they believed the 1,000 year reign had begun and they were it's kings and priests.

Paul understood that the kingdom was to become reality after the church was gone. Peter candidly admits there were many things in Paul's teaching which were hard to be understood.
 

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"strike the Shepherd that the sheep may be scattered, I will turn My hand against the little ones"
" In the whole land " says the Lord "two thirds shall be cut off and perish ....2

Now we read in the gospel how that when Jesus was arrested the disciples fled "this was to fulfil the prophet "I will strike the Shepherd and the sheep will be scattered" So this prophecy of Zechariah has been fulfilled and shows the fall of Israel


Sorry but it has not been fulfilled. Even the siege of Jerusalem did not kill 2/3 of Jews in the land. And the phrase " it shall come to pass" is a sign that a new thought has begun!

Hitler was by far teh one who killed more Jews as number and as a % of all Jews. He was only able to kill 1/3 of all Jews alive. The antichrist will see two thirds killed!.
 

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Sorry but it has not been fulfilled. Even the siege of Jerusalem did not kill 2/3 of Jews in the land. And the phrase " it shall come to pass" is a sign that a new thought has begun!

Hitler was by far teh one who killed more Jews as number and as a % of all Jews. He was only able to kill 1/3 of all Jews alive. The antichrist will see two thirds killed!.
It will be the Lord who will wipe out the apostate and Jesus hating Jewish State of Israel.
Read Zephaniah 1:1-18, Isaiah 22:1-14, and Isaiah 29:1-4 where it says a few Jews will survive by hiding underground. As Romans 9:27 tells us.
During the final 42 months of this age, when the AC will have total world control, he will kill many Christians. Their souls will be kept under the Altar in heaven and when Jesus returns, He will bring them back to life. Revelation 20:4
 
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I think they fled, they were instructed to flee persecution. Lambs are not Lions, we are the weak and foolish in this world, the poor and those who are nothing in society ... we are not brave, we look to One who is mighty to save and protect us.
When we are filled with His Spirit He makes us bold.

Paul did not understand the second coming of our Lord in the same way the other Jewish apostles did ... he had further revelation which they did not have.

The other apossums had the Jewish understanding and they are not wrong for the world will end with a loud bang and fervent heat to the melting away of the elements.

But Paul understood there was to be a significant gap, a delay.

The delay is not between the Lord's coming and the end of the world, the gap or parenthesis is between our Lord's ascension and His coming to gather His people. The other crowd had no understanding of this, only Paul teaches the rapture. This is because only Paul understood that the church was to be established among the nations, the others thought it was to be established in Jerusalem, they believed the 1,000 year reign had begun and they were it's kings and priests.

Paul understood that the kingdom was to become reality after the church was gone. Peter candidly admits there were many things in Paul's teaching which were hard to be understood.
It's called the Parousia, the rapture is a dumbed down expression that can be so misleading or even outright stupid representations claimed in such that I have heard coming from people.

Jews ? what Jews, there are no Jews in the world nowadays who have a full blood line, not one.
The only people who could be worthy to be claiming to be a Jew would be one who follows the OT regardless of there race, so if they believe and follow the OT then they are followers of the Jewish OT. But so what ! big deal, so we have a group that is lost in the past that are Anti-Christ in fact, sure they may have the blueprint, that's worth something, but as for them people themselves what are they truly, well just dupes. so what's the point of idiots nowadays idolising such a people ?
I can not believe how brainwashed many so called Christians are in idolising the so called Jews. just the other night I had some tosser making claims about the Jews, I said I have a Jewish sir name and he rejected me outright and got in a stupid huff about it all, because he has been brainwashed like a lot of people I know around here. they idolise the Jews ! yet they refuse to accept one like me or they hate me outright. because I am a Christian of some Jewish decent. it's not suppose to be some make out. they are all wrapped up in the childish rapture BS line so much that they can not think past their carnal position, of hope to be Saved in the second coming. the fact is that they have not been Saved, because if they truly were born again they would understand that such a one is in the Kingdom of God for a start= Saved and that the Parousia will come in time, but we should be concerned with now to be truly Saved before hand. not some 3rd rate rubbish that I have seen idiots claim is born again brainwashing crap, that seeks the rapture idol, that is of Satan ! you will reap what you sow the Bible is clear on that and such will not be raptured out of here. they will go through the Hellfire. because they do not know Jesus is truly the Christ, they are looking for Jesus because they have not been found for crying out loud. oh they can't wait for Jesus to come back ? well did he ever leave us ? No ! he says so in the Bible.
You must have faith in the Holy Spirit, if one does not one is lost, religion never saved anyone, I have seen such does in fact, it's only Jesus Christ Saves ones Soul and that can happen now as it was 2000 years ago.
Many people were Saved over the 2000 years but what I get from new age mob is that they are saying none were and it's only after the rapture comes that people will be saved. well all will be Saved at the second coming, just as people were Saved over 2000 years, one must be born again to enter into the Kingdom of God. not to mention if one is not in the Kingdom of God you will not get into Heaven.
So stop your worldly religious works, because they are works of Man, not God. remember no one comes to the Father but through his only begotten Son, that counts all other religions out directly, one must follow in Jesus Christ only, end of story. anyone who claims differently is of Satan.