Its of Faith so to be of Grace
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Ferris Bueller
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This is what I'm trying to explain to Davy. The imputation of the righteousness that comes from God is a legal declaration. Not a literal righteousness of behavior. I'm growing towards that, but I did not receive that when I was forgiven all of my sin guilt as if I'd kept God's laws perfectly.
amigo de christo
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I need to see your response on a thread called DID jesus really mean all buddists and atheists .
I am beginning to see a false union of mind . I PRAY TO GOD you nor anyone else will agree with it .
This false all inclusive lovey lovey , YOU KNOW the stuff i always warn about , YEAH ITS HERE and folks are buying it .
DONT YOU BUY IT . GO to the post and stand for JESUS .
Ferris Bueller
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But that circumcision did not MAKE him righteous.
This is the very argument Paul is making.
And you seem to be missing it.
He was declared righteous BEFORE he was circumcised. And through this truth Paul tells us that is how we, too, are made righteous - by faith, APART FROM WORK. He did not get circumcised to be MADE righteous. He got circumcised BECAUSE he was righteous, through his faith. His obedience was the SIGN of the righteousness he had while still uncircumcised. This is all explained in Romans 4.
amigo de christo
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I need to see your response on a thread called DID jesus really mean all buddists and atheists .
I am beginning to see a false union of mind . I PRAY TO GOD you nor anyone else will agree with it .
This false all inclusive lovey lovey , YOU KNOW the stuff i always warn about , YEAH ITS HERE and folks are buying it .
DONT YOU BUY IT . GO to the post and stand for JESUS .
Ferris Bueller
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Romans 2:14-16
Everyone who does not have knowledge of Moses and Jesus is judged via their conscience and the law of nature.
This pretty much excludes everyone in this modern age where the knowledge of the gospel almost fills the whole earth.
Ferris Bueller
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It is real only in that a person receives the Holy Spirit through which they can then live a righteous life. But that's a journey, not something that happens in full the moment they believe. But, surely, the righteousness of God given to a person is embodied in the Holy Spirit who lives in them.
amigo de christo
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everyone who denies the gospel is who will be judged . ponder on that one a bit .
Even cornelious had knowledge of MOSES , even HE did much good , but he still needed to hear and believe the gosple TO be saved .
If not , WHY DID GOD send peter to HIM . exactly . THERE IS NO OTHER HOPE but FAITH IN JESUS .
And those who reject HIM , well its gonna be better for sodom and gomorrah on the day of judgemnt .
amigo de christo
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ONLY those whose faith is in Christ has the HOLY GHOST . The Father draws us , the SPIRIT draws us , TO FAITH IN JESUS
all else is but wind and vainity . Satan has him a love gospel and its a false one . We need to stand on
the original words of JESUS .
So here let me leave us with HIS WORDS . GO YE into all the nations
preach the gospel , all who believe will be saved all who do not DAMNED . JESUS WORDS . I Suggest we take them as TRUTH .
We are saved by Grace through Faith, that is faith is accompanied with the Gift of Grace , and the converted person will understand and believe they have been saved by Gods Grace alone !
The Spirit causes Faith Ezk 36:27
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
The Spirit put into a person causes them to walk by Faith !
Being chosen in Christ before the foundation, before they had physical existence came first, and to them, the Chosen in Christ before the foundation, to them in time was given Faith to believe. They believed because of Grace.
how is grace applies to you’re soul except by baptism
God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!
Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38
Christian ritual of baptism:
Immersion, sprinkling, pour pure water over the forehead three time with the words, I baptize thee in the name of the father, and of the son, and of the Holy Spirit! Ez 36:25-27 Mk 16:16 Matt 28:19 Acts 2:38-39 Acts 8:36-38 Acts 22:16
1 Pet 3:21
Proper intention: to make a new creature in Christ, to put on Christ, initiation into the new covenant of grace
Matter: pure water
Form: the words
Born again! Born from above!
'The Father has set his seal' on Christ (John 6:27) and also seals us in him (cf. 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:23, 4:30). Because this seal indicates the indelible effect of the anointing with the Holy Spirit in the sacrament of Baptism,
Baptism indeed is the seal of eternal life." 87 The faithful Christian who has "kept the seal" until the end, remaining faithful to the demands of his Baptism, will be able to depart this life "marked with the sign of faith," 88 with his baptismal faith, in expectation of the blessed vision of God - the consummation of faith - and in the hope of resurrection.
St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13
Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16
1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)
Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the ark of salvation by baptism!
Grace is from God and believing is from God, 1 Pet 1:21
21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
And Christ the Saviour is God Titus 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
So Christ is the author of the believers Faith Heb 12:2
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
And Christ the Saviour is God Titus 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
So Christ is the author of the believers Faith Heb 12:2
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
ALl graces come to us like Jesus did, thru Mary, and we go to Jesus and to God the same way, thru Mary!
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