IT'S TIME TO SPEAK UP

[BarneyFife]

 

[BarneyFife]

Again, this has already been proved numerous times.

https://assets2.hrc.org/welcoming-schools/documents/WS_Using_LGBT_Inclusive_Books.pdf

Maryland school district rescinds opt-out policy for parents, pushes LGBTQ books as required reading

Montgomery County schools in Maryland have received pushback from parents and organizations regarding a refusal to opt children out of books featuring LGBTQ characters.

www.foxnews.com

Reading and Teaching the Rainbow

www.aft.org

A school district was given LGBTQ-affirming kids’ books. Then parents objected

Solana Beach School District controversy raises the question: What should schools do when people object to library books?

www.sandiegouniontribune.com

A pattern of advancing Leftism is called incrementalism.

1st, vehemently deny a thing is happening.​

2nd, vehemently, deny what is happening is widespread.​

3rd, vehemently deny what is happening in a widespread manner is bad.​

4th, vehemently attack those as bad who point out the bad of what is happening in a widespread manner.​

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We all know you are in the 4th stage.

I get the strategy aspect but on an individual, intellectual level I honestly don't know what's with all the heavy denial, anyway.

Isn't this what is wanted?

How else are these folks going to "teach" our "children not to hate?"

It's just like the promise from postmodernist academia 20+ years ago that free condoms and free porn would rid the world of rape and venereal disease.

We still haven't gotten an apology for that.

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[Wrangler]

What you two @Eternally Grateful @Wrangler

Gonna do about it?

Oppose the LBGTQ agenda in every way until our last breath. You?

 

[Wrangler]

Gonna keep harping on tinman?

Yup.

 

[MatthewG]

No one said you have to agree with LBGTQ political stances.

Im not political so i dont vote or go to my loval congress to change laws or things around.

However if you hear of abuse… coming from someone that is harming children its a different story.

Its not my business though what two grow people do behind close doors. Unless its harming children. Or if you catch wind if suspicious activity that might be of someone murdering and taking life.

Other than that: May God judge.

Dont you understand that @Wrangler?

 

[BarneyFife]

No one said you have to agree with LBGTQ political stances.

Im not political so i dont vote or go to my loval congress to change laws or things around.

However if you hear of abuse… coming from someone that is harming children its a different story.

Its not my business though what two grow people do behind close doors. Unless its harming children. Or if you catch wind if suspicious activity that might be of someone murdering and taking life.

Other than that: May God judge.

Dont you understand that @Wrangler?

What if one person wants to be murdered and the other agrees to do it willingly?

Mutual consent is the Great Mitigator of God's commandments, right?

All behind closed doors, of course.

 

[MatthewG]

What if one person wants to be murdered and the other agrees to do it willingly?

Mutual consent is the Great Mitigator of God's commandments, right?

All behind closed doors, of course.

What if a person decides to hate a fellow human being, isn't that considered murder?

Remember what Jesus said?

Jesus Teaches about Inner Purity​

7 One day some Pharisees and teachers of religious law arrived from Jerusalem to see Jesus. 2 They noticed that some of his disciples failed to follow the Jewish ritual of hand washing before eating. 3 (The Jews, especially the Pharisees, do not eat until they have poured water over their cupped hands,[a] as required by their ancient traditions. 4 Similarly, they don’t eat anything from the market until they immerse their hands[b] in water. This is but one of many traditions they have clung to—such as their ceremonial washing of cups, pitchers, and kettles.[c])

5 So the Pharisees and teachers of religious law asked him, “Why don’t your disciples follow our age-old tradition? They eat without first performing the hand-washing ceremony.”

6 Jesus replied, “You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you, for he wrote,

‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
7 Their worship is a farce,
for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God.’[d]
8 For you ignore God’s law and substitute your own tradition.”

9 Then he said, “You skillfully sidestep God’s law in order to hold on to your own tradition. 10 For instance, Moses gave you this law from God: ‘Honor your father and mother,’[e] and ‘Anyone who speaks disrespectfully of father or mother must be put to death.’[f] 11 But you say it is all right for people to say to their parents, ‘Sorry, I can’t help you. For I have vowed to give to God what I would have given to you.’[g] 12 In this way, you let them disregard their needy parents. 13 And so you cancel the word of God in order to hand down your own tradition. And this is only one example among many others.”

14 Then Jesus called to the crowd to come and hear. “All of you listen,” he said, “and try to understand. 15 It’s not what goes into your body that defiles you; you are defiled by what comes from your heart.[h]”

17 Then Jesus went into a house to get away from the crowd, and his disciples asked him what he meant by the parable he had just used. 18 “Don’t you understand either?” he asked. “Can’t you see that the food you put into your body cannot defile you? 19 Food doesn’t go into your heart, but only passes through the stomach and then goes into the sewer.” (By saying this, he declared that every kind of food is acceptable in God’s eyes.)

20 And then he added, “It is what comes from inside that defiles you. 21 For from within, out of a person’s heart, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, wickedness, deceit, lustful desires, envy, slander, pride, and foolishness. 23 All these vile things come from within; they are what defile you.”

Some crimes are committed right behind the eyes in the mind of individuals, without ever acting the act outwardly, it all starts in the heart.

It's interesting how far you can take the bible @BarneyFife, and a viewpoint.

It's all up to the individual to choose of course, you know that very well my friend.

When Jesus was being murdered on the cross, and even after being thrown under by his fellow brothers he said "Father forgive them, they know not what they do"

Either you look at the world, or you look towards the heavenly. The world aint gonna change, while people can make changes - humans will be human and make their own choices, and also force their ideas on other people, be it with abuse or agape love.

Gotta love Mr Anderson, even for his biblically stated viewpoints, ya know?

 

[TinMan]

where do I start?

Child reads porn to school board

Is this the one where it was found the original book was gutted and replaced? It's tough to tell the media isn't to interested in repoting things like that.

 

[TinMan]

Again, this has already been proved numerous times.

Inclusive books. next thing you know they will be wanting to have books with people of different races. Obviously that will push the kids to choose to be some other sin color.

https://assets2.hrc.org/welcoming-schools/documents/WS_Using_LGBT_Inclusive_Books.pdf

...and?

Maryland school district rescinds opt-out policy for parents, pushes LGBTQ books as required reading

Montgomery County schools in Maryland have received pushback from parents and organizations regarding a refusal to opt children out of books featuring LGBTQ characters.

www.foxnews.com

"Maryland school district rescinds opt-out policy for parents, pushes LGBTQ books as required reading"
Except it's not required reading. Wow Fox news lying....what are the odds?

Reading and Teaching the Rainbow

www.aft.org

"Such concerns often arise because people assume talking about people who identify as LGBTQ means talking about sex. "
What sort of pervert would assume that>

A school district was given LGBTQ-affirming kids’ books. Then parents objected

Solana Beach School District controversy raises the question: What should schools do when people object to library books?

www.sandiegouniontribune.com

From your link: "Schools and libraries received at least 730 reported challenges to about 1,600 books last year, most of them books about LGBTQ or Black people, according to the American Library Association.

That kind of sums it all up

 

[TinMan]

the left want to take that right away. they are trying to make a law that makes it child abuse if a parent does not affirm a childs gender choice..

It's actually the other way around. Texas just tried to make any affirming a parent does in regards to their a trans child as child abuse

and they want to make it a law they do not need to get parent permission to castrate young boys or give a young girl a massectomy..

Genital reassignment surgery is reserved for those 18 and older, according to guidelines for the medical care of transgender patients developed by the Endocrine Society and the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, or WPATH.

and a fact check...

not to mention give them hormones that can have long term effects and shorten a persons life

and no evidence for this

 

[TinMan]

thats interesting.

Half of these people would be stoned or beheaded because they think they are the opposite sex or because they are gay or lesbian.

yet the scream at how hateful their country is.

its an attitude.. that is where it all boils down too. its pride

so because a thrid world country treats peopel worse that makes hate and discrimination here OK?

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Redefining LGBTQ +
Live Godly Believing Truth,
Questioning all the + 's man desires with which to corrupt the word of God !

 

[BarneyFife]

What if a person decides to hate a fellow human being, isn't that considered murder?

Remember what Jesus said?



Some crimes are committed right behind the eyes in the mind of individuals, without ever acting the act outwardly, it all starts in the heart.

It's interesting how far you can take the bible @BarneyFife, and a viewpoint.

It's all up to the individual to choose of course, you know that very well my friend.

When Jesus was being murdered on the cross, and even after being thrown under by his fellow brothers he said "Father forgive them, they know not what they do"

Either you look at the world, or you look towards the heavenly. The world aint gonna change, while people can make changes - humans will be human and make their own choices, and also force their ideas on other people, be it with abuse or agape love.

Gotta love Mr Anderson, even for his biblically stated viewpoints, ya know?

I hear you but you're basically just being evasive here, Matthew. I know I've been guilty of anger without cause many times. I don't think that's the case here. I don't know how to hate a hypothetical human being. And I don't hate anyone here.

Is mutual consent the trusty mitigator of duty to God and man or not? That seems to be what you implied. If you don't want to address that, it's okay. I just want to be clear about what we're doing here. You seemed to be making a strong appeal, albeit not to me personally.

Not being of the world has nothing to do with the equivocation or obfuscation of sin.

And the Bible is clear that sin has to be pointed out, especially when it is being represented as righteousness.

 

[MatthewG]

I hear you but you're basically just being evasive here, Matthew.

@BarneyFife

Here is my final word on the matter, sir.

LGBTQ - is what you had in your title at first but now it is remove.

All messed up people live all over the world, you and me are also messed up.

The solution Jesus.

That's why God so loved the world he sent his son.

You wanna know why these things dont inherit the Kingdom of God?

1 Corinthians 6:9-11​

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9 have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites,
10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, the reign of God shall inherit.
11 And certain of you were these! but ye were washed, but ye were sanctified, but ye were declared righteous, in the name of the Lord Jesus, and in the Spirit of our God.

It's because it's the flesh... and it's not the heart - people can still live in the flesh and have trouble with the spirit, and

ALL PEOPLE ARE CALLED TO AND BY THIS SPIRIT - just cause people do sex behind doors aint none of your business....

UNLESS YOU HEAR OF CRIMES BEING COMMITED that ENDANGER LIFE.

That is all I can say cause I don't believe in "Social Reform" - but Jesus can "REform" the mind, and sometime people live a long long time, that do evil and have time to change there mind and come to God....

therefore you can say I am being evading but you are not addressing anything either.

Other than - the bible says it's sin, we must tell them they are sinning! OTherwise we aren't doing our jobs as christians. Isn't sharing the love of the Lord and sharing the biblical narrative with them important than condemning them? They are already condemned... if they don't believe in the death, burial, and resurrection.

God forbid we sit down and read the bible to someone.

All the best in Christ.

 

[Wrangler]

No one said you have to agree with LBGTQ political stances.

Im not political so i dont vote or go to my loval congress to change laws or things around.

However if you hear of abuse… coming from someone that is harming children its a different story.

Its not my business though what two grow people do behind close doors. Unless its harming children. Or if you catch wind if suspicious activity that might be of someone murdering and taking life.

Other than that: May God judge.

Dont you understand that @Wrangler?

Odd. I understand you are addressing your wonderfully neutral comments to me - who is extremely politically active - and not the resident LGBTQ anti-Christian activist to this Christian forum.

I understand the LGBTQ agenda has moved way beyond "Let God Judge" what we do behind close doors.

I understand the the LGBTQ agenda is targeting the grooming of children starting in Kindergarten that harms them now and worse in the future.

I understand all this goes against God's word. Do you understand this @MatthewG?

 

[MatthewG]

God will judge @Wrangler, and he sees the heart.

So... say what you want. I dont believe in "Social Reform", and I am not political, like some on this website and its okay if you are I love you just the same as Jesus told us to love our enemies... that is the ethic and moral delimma.

"Love your enemy, do good to those who hate you"

 

[Wrangler]

Inclusive books.

Agh, is that what it is called? Let me guess. You think "inclusion" is good huh?

 

[Wrangler]

"Maryland school district rescinds opt-out policy for parents, pushes LGBTQ books as required reading"
Except it's not required reading.

You say it is not required reading. The article says it is. Do you have a link, something other than your own opinion? Or do you deem your opinion to supersede all other evidence? Wait! That's it.

 

[Wrangler]

"Such concerns often arise because people assume talking about people who identify as LGBTQ means talking about sex. "
What sort of pervert would assume that

Willfully ignorant. It is impossible to talk about LGBTQ without talking about sex.

 

[Wrangler]

From your link: "Schools and libraries received at least 730 reported challenges to about 1,600 books last year, most of them books about LGBTQ or Black people, according to the American Library Association.

That kind of sums it all up

Another desperate attempt to equate moral condemnation against behavior with racism.