Jesus Christ IS Jehovah according to Scriptures...A REBUTTAL

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The title Lord is undoubtedly one of the most Important honorific titles of Jesus Christ In the New Testament, because It inevitably leads to His identification as the blessed second person of the Godhead is identified as the Incarnate God in many other ways in Scripture, but no other single title is more exalted than Lord in proclaiming His Deity and His Equality with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit

In the New Testament, there are two meaningful terms rendered by the English word Lord by the translators of the authorized version. The more common of the two is ”Kurius” the other is “Despotes.”

In the scriptures, both terms are used for Jesus as well as Jehovah, and in secular writings for the pagan deities and emperors who were counted to be as absolute masters and gods to be worshipped by their people.

Now the term "despotes" was used by the Greeks to certain gods and persons who executed unrestricted power an absolute dominion over others without any limitations or restrains whatsoever. It was particularly a term used for one who owns slaves and exercises the right to determine the exposal of their bodies as well as their abilities and energies.

Despotes is used with extreme care In the New Testament for the lord and honor of the house, for the master of slaves and as an advocate of prayer to god. Now it's not at all surprising to find such an honorific title which insist upon absolute and unrestricted ownership and disposal of others used for Jesus Christ as well as God the Father.

Paul in his Epistles does not hesitate for a moment to count himself as all Christians do to be a slave of God. And that the purchase price for our slavery from Satan, and death, and sin is the blood of Jesus Christ.

This concept of absolute ownership of the believer by his Lord is inherent by the term “redeemed” for redemption speaks for the purchase of slaves from the marketplace. The term "despotes" in no doubt express in the lips of the faithful who used it their sense of God absolute disposal of His creatures and of His autocratic power who does according to His will in the army of heaven as well as among the inhabitants of the earth as we read in Daniel 4:35.

Now at the time of the New Testament when it was being written, we were told that there were words 'Lords many' and 'gods many' by the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 8:5.

The Roman empire spread like an octopus The problem with the Roman senate was to unify the states, nations, and with the many multitude of languages and religions And it's obvious that pay revision common to all must be found if real unity of spirit to bring about what is called Pax Romana.

Now, none of the religions of the western world be suitable for this purpose. So a new religion must be created for the sake of the political unity. Keep in mind that it was the sake of this political unity that this unity was designed.

It was determined that a god should be created for all the Pax Romana, the Roman Peace meant to the Provincials, and the emperor should be declared as kurius and theos, both lord and god. When Rome saw the potential veneration it held in terms of bringing political unity, they seized upon the idea tying Caesar to a “loyalty oath.” Therefore every citizen was mandated to take a loyalty oath for the political unity of Rome.

Of course, the Christians who believed as did Paul, there is but one God the Father, who is all in us, and the Lord Jesus, who is all in us, would never say even under the penalty of death, ‘Caesar is Lord.'

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As a result, many such as Polycarp the disciple of Apostle John chose death rather than use the terms Kurius and Despotes for any other than the blessed persons of the Holy Trinity.

When Jesus returns He will return as King over all kings, and Lord over all lords. This is to say at His second coming He will come as one with absolute Owner and Sovereign over all created beings and things. He will come as one who has the privilege, and the authority, and the power, to do with His creatures that which is according to His pleasure.

Therefore, to acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord He is to declare that He is Jehovah, that He is God manifest in the flesh (1 John 4:2-3). We must recognize that the theology of the New Testament that presupposes the Godhood of Jesus Christ if it did not He would never have been allowed the title of Kurius or Lord.

This is quite amazing when we realize that the human authors of the New Testament, for the most part, were Monotheistic Jews. Yet it is strikingly apparent that they were firmly convinced that Jesus Christ is “Emmanuel, God with us” for they transferred to him without hesitation all that the Old Testament says about Jehovah. This indicates that they have pursued all final outcome of the Lordship of the son of God Jesus Christ.

We have just stated the monotheistic authors of the New Testament transfer to Jesus all of what the Old Testament says about Jehovah. Let me back it up with some scriptures. There are many examples but let me list a few if you please.

Let us compare Mark 1:3 where Isaiah 40:3 is quoted you will see what I mean. In the gospel account we read, “the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.”

Here in Mark, the word Lord translated is the honorific title used for Jesus (Kurius). The way preparer is obviously John the Baptizer and the Lord that is being prepared is plainly our Savior.

Now in Isaiah 40:3 you will see that in the passage which has just been quoted in the New Testament that the word Lord is spelled with all capital letters. This is the printers way of telling you hat the original Hebrew text has the word Jehovah or YHWH. Since Jesus is declared to be the one called LORD by Isaiah, it is quite clear that He is Jehovah as far as Mark is concerned,

The most remarkable confirmation of our statement that the writers of the New Testament writers eagerly and quickly transferred to Jesus all of the Old Testament says about Jehovah Is to be seen by contrasting Romans 10:13 with Joel 2:32 Paul says, “whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord (Kurius) shall be saved.”

This is a direct quotation by the Jewish Prophet Joel by Paul a monotheistic Jew. Here again, as you examine the text of the Old Testament prophet you will discover that the word which Paul uses “Kurius” is also translated Lord in our English Bibles is the Hebrew word YHWH or Jehovah for Lord is spelled with all capital letters In that passage.

Since Paul applies this verse to Jesus using Kurius to render Yahweh or Jehovah It is clear that he is declaring that our Lord is none other than the Eternal God in Person. Not only are there numerous other instances where the name Jehovah is transferred to Jesus but the Apostle Paul, also to affirm to call Jesus “Kurius” as to declare that is none other than Jehovah. To call Jesus “Kurius” is to glorify the Heavenly Father.

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Turn to Philippians 2:9-11 you read these words:
9 “Wherefore God also has highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow of things in heaven and things in earth and things under the earth;
11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is “Kurius” that is Jesus Christ is Lord, that is Jesus Christ is Jehovah, to the glory of God the Father
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For the monotheistic Jew the most exalted name, bar none Is Yahweh or Jehovah. It was before this name that all the peoples of the earth were to bow their heads according to the promise. It is this very name of names that is transferred by Paul to Jesus, this is the Heavenly throne Sitter there with the Father for all whom creatures one day will frustrate themselves in humble adoration even from the midst of the fire or from the midst of radiant angels of heaven.

Now it becomes more apparent why the early Church refused to say a Caesar is Kurius even though they knew it was simply a “loyalty oath” as far as Rome was concerned.

Every indoctrinated believer knew that Kurius was a title for a god, and he refused to call anyone other than the true God by that title Lord or Kurius.

Undoubtedly, the Apostle Paul had In mind Isaiah 45:22-23 when he writes to the Philippians “Jesus Christ is Lord and that every knee one day should bow for our savior. You see, Isaiah, quoting the word of God Himself:

The God Who created the heavens and the earth He declared that all creation shall before his Divine Majesty then in verse 21 of the same passage it will be noted that there is no savior other than the sovereign Jehovah who created the Heaven and the earth.


45:22-23

Look unto me and be ye saved all the ends of the Earth for I am God and there is none else I have sworn by myself the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness and shall not return unto me every knee shall bow every tongue shall swear.


Now in this great passage, the speaker is “Elohim” The God Who created the heavens and the earth He declares that all creation shall bow before his divine majesty

Therefore Paul declares Jesus is to be Savior and Lord before whom every knee shall bow. He is openly and passively transferring that prerogatives and position of deity to Jesus.

No matter where one looks in the New Testament he finds Jesus described as Lord. Now, this is especially true in the epistles for our dear Savior is called Kurius nearly 150 times and Lord Jesus nearly 100 times more. It must be understood that this constant application to the term Kurius to our Lord Jesus must not be imagined as merely a formal mark of respect. It is a definite description of him as universal absolute dominion not only over men but overall angels the entire created beings of the universe.

Not only is the deity of Christ declared by calling him Lord and by applying to him many of the Old Testament of scriptures Identify him as Jehovah but He is openly called God as well as Lord. One of the most stirring examples is to be seen were Thomas his doubts of His bodily resurrection removed, greets Jesus with a great cry, “my Lord and My God.”

Yes, the witnesses agree...Jesus is JEHOVAH!

To God Be The Glory
 

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In the New Testament, there are two meaningful terms rendered by the English word Lord by the translators of the authorized version. The more common of the two is ”Kurius” the other is “Despotes.”
You are off to a bad start. There is no Greek word “Kurius” in Scripture. The word is “kurios”.

The word “kurios” simply means “he to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power of deciding” (Thayer’s) or “supreme in authority, that is, controller” (Strong’s). It is used of both God and men. It does not automatically identify the person as YHWH as can be seen in many NT verses where “kurios” is translated “master” or “Sir”. Here is one example;

Acts 16:16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
 

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Therefore, to acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord He is to declare that He is Jehovah, that He is God manifest in the flesh (1 John 4:2-3). We must recognize that the theology of the New Testament that presupposes the Godhood of Jesus Christ if it did not He would never have been allowed the title of Kurius or Lord.
As I showed above, the mere use of kurios does NOT make one YHWH.

This is quite amazing when we realize that the human authors of the New Testament, for the most part, were Monotheistic Jews. Yet it is strikingly apparent that they were firmly convinced that Jesus Christ is “Emmanuel, God with us” for they transferred to him without hesitation all that the Old Testament says about Jehovah. This indicates that they have pursued all final outcome of the Lordship of the son of God Jesus Christ.
Paul was a Monotheistic Jew who used “kurios” in its plural form to refer to human masters (Ephesians 6:9; Colossians 4:1). Those masters were NOT YHWH. Neither is Yeshua.

Let us compare Mark 1:3 where Isaiah 40:3 is quoted you will see what I mean. In the gospel account we read, “the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.”

Here in Mark, the word Lord translated is the honorific title used for Jesus (Kurius). The way preparer is obviously John the Baptizer and the Lord that is being prepared is plainly our Savior.

Now in Isaiah 40:3 you will see that in the passage which has just been quoted in the New Testament that the word Lord is spelled with all capital letters. This is the printers way of telling you hat the original Hebrew text has the word Jehovah or YHWH. Since Jesus is declared to be the one called LORD by Isaiah, it is quite clear that He is Jehovah as far as Mark is concerned,
The word “Lord” in Mark 1:3 refers to YHWH as is seen in Isaiah 40:3. The phrase, “the way of YHWH” refers to Yeshua who is the “way”, the truth and the life. Of all the N.T. verses that quote Isaiah, Luke 3:4-6 aids our understanding because it includes Isaiah 40:4-5. It says, "As it is written in the book of the words of Isaiah the prophet, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of YHWH, make his paths straight. Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth; And all flesh shall see the salvation of YHWH." "Prepare ye the way of YHWH" does not mean, "Move out of the way because YHWH is coming." And so when Yeshua comes they believe he is YHWH.

How was "the way" to be prepared? By filling valleys, leveling mountains, straightening paths, etc. This work is not to be understood literally, but spiritually through the humbling of those in exalted positions and the restoration of truth. Who was to do that work? John 4:34 says, "Yeshua saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of Him that sent me, and to finish His work." Almighty YHWH appointed His Son Yeshua to finish His work. Yeshua was YHWH's instrument in the accomplishment of His great plan. Yeshua is the "Messenger of the Covenant," "the servant of YHWH," and "the salvation of YHWH." John 14:6 calls Yeshua "the way." He is "the way of YHWH;" the means through which YHWH will finish His work.

The most remarkable confirmation of our statement that the writers of the New Testament writers eagerly and quickly transferred to Jesus all of the Old Testament says about Jehovah Is to be seen by contrasting Romans 10:13 with Joel 2:32 Paul says, “whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord (Kurius) shall be saved.”

This is a direct quotation by the Jewish Prophet Joel by Paul a monotheistic Jew. Here again, as you examine the text of the Old Testament prophet you will discover that the word which Paul uses “Kurius” is also translated Lord in our English Bibles is the Hebrew word YHWH or Jehovah for Lord is spelled with all capital letters In that passage.

Since Paul applies this verse to Jesus using Kurius to render Yahweh or Jehovah It is clear that he is declaring that our Lord is none other than the Eternal God in Person. Not only are there numerous other instances where the name Jehovah is transferred to Jesus but the Apostle Paul, also to affirm to call Jesus “Kurius” as to declare that is none other than Jehovah. To call Jesus “Kurius” is to glorify the Heavenly Father.

To Be Continued...
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus (Yeshua), and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.​

God”, in this verse, is not Yeshua, but Yeshua’s Father YHWH. It was YHWH who made Yeshua to be both “Lord” and “Messiah” (Acts 2:36) and it was YHWH who sent Yeshua to save the world (John 3:17). Therefore, the ultimate source of salvation is from YHWH through Yeshua.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believes unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.​

The salvation that YHWH provided through Yeshua.

Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believes on him shall not be ashamed.​

It was Adonai YHWH who laid the firm foundation of salvation (Isaiah 28:16) and made Yeshua the chief cornerstone. This is what Paul was referencing in verse 11. If we believe on Yeshua, we will not be ashamed. Father YHWH gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16).

Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.​

YHWH is Lord over all the earth (Joshua 3:11). He made Yeshua to be Lord of all as well (Acts 2:36). Men call upon YHWH for salvation (Psalm 18:3; 55:16; Joel 2:32). They call upon Yeshua for salvation as well (1 Corinthians 1:2). Therefore, it is not clear which “Lord” is called upon here.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.​

This is a quote from Joel 2:32 which uses “YHWH”. Now we know which “Lord” is being called upon in verse 12; YHWH.
 

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Turn to Philippians 2:9-11 you read these words:

9 “Wherefore God also has highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow of things in heaven and things in earth and things under the earth;
11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is “Kurius” that is Jesus Christ is Lord, that is Jesus Christ is Jehovah, to the glory of God the Father
.“
As I showed in the previous posts, being called “kurios” does not make one YHWH. You have no right to distort Scripture in this manner.

Undoubtedly, the Apostle Paul had In mind Isaiah 45:22-23 when he writes to the Philippians “Jesus Christ is Lord and that every knee one day should bow for our savior. You see, Isaiah, quoting the word of God Himself:

The God Who created the heavens and the earth He declared that all creation shall before his Divine Majesty then in verse 21 of the same passage it will be noted that there is no savior other than the sovereign Jehovah who created the Heaven and the earth.

45:22-23

Look unto me and be ye saved all the ends of the Earth for I am God and there is none else I have sworn by myself the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness and shall not return unto me every knee shall bow every tongue shall swear.

Now in this great passage, the speaker is “Elohim” The God Who created the heavens and the earth He declares that all creation shall bow before his divine majesty

Therefore Paul declares Jesus is to be Savior and Lord before whom every knee shall bow. He is openly and passively transferring that prerogatives and position of deity to Jesus.
Paul does apply portions of Isaiah 45:23 to Yeshua in Philippians 2:10-11. That does not mean he is also applying the Name "YHWH" to him as well. John 5:23 helps us to understand this. If you don't honor the Son, by extension, you don't honor the Father. And John 15:23; if you hate the Son, by extension, you hate the Father. If you bow your knees to the Son, by extension, you bow your knees to the Father. Notice that what is sworn in Isaiah 45:23-24 is not what is sworn in Philippians 2:11. (every tongue shall confess or swear that Yeshua is "Master" [kurios]). That same word (kurios) was applied to men in several other verses such as John 12:21 where it refers to Philip. It is only a reference to YHWH when it is a direct quote of an Old Testament verse containing the Tetragrammaton which Isaiah 45:23 does not.