Wrangler
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Not if you are God.
Appeal to Ignorance. God does not know nonsense like square circles or trinitarianism because both contradict and go against sense and knowledge.
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Not if you are God.
Yep, that's exactly what JW's do, even tho their own NWT says they are wrong!you just ramble on with your own ideas, and totally ignore what anyone else says. this is pure delusion!
John 20:20 Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and MY GOD". Even the JW Bible says you're wrong.Appeal to Ignorance. God does not know nonsense like square circles or trinitarianism because both contradict and go against sense and knowledge.
John 20:20 Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and MY GOD".
How EVASIVE like a good JW!But the Jews said he was not God. Odd that you take as narration what is exclamation. People say 'my God' even today as an exclamation not a declarative statement of fact.
Jesus said he was not God over and over and over again. This means nothing to you?!
The JW TWIST!To back your trinity theology shouldn't have Thomas stated to Jesus, my second separate person in the trinity?
Your language is not what the Bible teaches. God is One Being, but cannot be as "three separate entities", as this will make this as "separate" from each other, by independent existence. The "essence" of "nature" of the Godhead is United in ONE, not three "parts".
The Persons in the Godhead are "distinct" but not "separate". The Father never became Man, nor did the Holy Spirit. It was the Word that became flesh, Who is Jesus Christ. Not the Father or the Holy Spirit. It was Jesus Christ Who died for our sins on the cross, Not the Father or the Holy Spirit, etc. You cannot confound the Three Persons.
Let me put it another way. The Father is divine, the son is divine, the holy spirit is divine- they all share the exact same divinity. they are not three seperate Gods with separate divinities like the old pagan triads. The Apostle John under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit said Jesus is equal with God.
I agree with what you say here 100%. I think you are making too much of a big deal over the terms "distinct" and "separate"
The Father is not the Son who is not the Spirit but they are all equally God! YOu call them distinct persons, I call them separate because they are separate individuals in that the Father isnot the son who is not the Spirit!
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Well for starters NO translation refers to God as "Them" or "They".
Read up some NON-CHURCH definitions of the Hebrew.
The King James removes God's Name in most of 7,000 places (like most translations), and substitutes "Lord".
The original Hebrew name of God re-discovered in 1,000 Bible manuscripts
Not to mention MANY, MANY mistakes and Archaic English...
No where in the entire Bible are the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, referred to as "divine", which means "God-like", but not "God".
it is not as you say, "a big deal", but very important to get our theology right.
maybe in english "divine" means god-like" but in Greek and Hebrew it means GOD
Appeal to Ignorance. God does not know nonsense like square circles or trinitarianism because both contradict and go against sense and knowledge.
Well then define for me how you view "separate" and "distinct". for I can and do use them interchangeably.
The Father is distinct or separate form the son and Spirit in that the Father is not the Son nor the Spirit. But they all share one absolute Deity.
That is why Peter could say that lying to the Holy Spirit is lying to God for the Holy Spirit is God, but He is not the Father nor is He the Son.
no it does not. In the Greek the word for "divine" is the adjective, "θεῖος", but for "God", it is the noun "θεος"