Quick question: It's a bit interesting, don't you think, that you think "Israel" gets to rule over the Gentiles, when Jesus actually tells us something different in the NT:
Jesus said to them, “Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of Man will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. -Matthew 19:28
Guess you never heard of delegated authority!
The bible says Israel has supremacy over the gentile nations and jthe apostles have supremacy over the 12 tribes and Jesus has supremacy over all.
In the kingdom god also said there would be judges, and pastors and governors and priests. When you put them all together it is not hard!
I'm sorry. I beg your pardon? Could you say that a little louder?
We have already "entered into eternal life", you say?
I'm assuming you mean because of the new, everlasting life we have in Christ, right? That is, the new life we have in Christ when we were born again in the Spirit? When our own spirits moved from death into the assurance of life everlasting?
I really wish there was a face/palm emoji. Or a "can you see the irony" emoji.
You dismiss my biblical attempts to show you just this from scripture when speaking of 'the first resurrection'...mostly, I suspect, because it upsets your doctrine if it's correct, but now, here we are, oops, you just admit to it. Which makes your denial of the 'first resurrection' being anything but physical a tad wobbly.
Being saved is not the "first resurrection" of revelation 20. though I have eternal life, if I die before teh rapture, my body gets buried and then at teh rapture- my body gets resurrected and transformed ! None of that has anything to do with teh first resurrection of REv. 20.
You are putting both time limitations and assumptions on this passage that simply are not there. That, I am fairly sure, is not only not 'allowed' by your own hermeneutic, but its questionable by any standard of biblical exegesis. It does not, in any way, tell us that there is a 'compartment' of hell they go to, or that these 'goats' have been sent there rather than hell.
What the passage DOES tell us is this:
Vv 34: "Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world."
Vv 41: "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels".
Vv 46: "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life".
You can assume, if you want, that the kingdom being spoken of is the Millennial kingdom, but if we are just reading the text in the most faithful way, we can see that it leads us to conclude that it is one that takes us into 'eternal life'. That is not the Millennial kingdom.
We can also see that the 'eternal punishment' spoken of, is not a 'compartment of waiting', but the self same 'eternal punishment' that was prepared for the devil and his angels. Anyone who knows Rev 20 knows this to be the lake of fire.
Well if these were the only passages speaking on the issues- I would agree with you and we would not have this discussion. But the bible speaks of an earthly kingdom, where people have children (heaven doesn't), prosperity, people farming etc.etc. in righteousness, and Jesus ruling with a rod fo iron and judging sin immediately! That does not take place in heaven.
Maybe at jesus return, the goats are thrown into teh lake of fire and not the place of torments, that is a small issue, because bottom line they are lost and will be punished from that point on.
But see just reading this text and ignoring the rest of SCripture that speak of a future kingdom is foolishness!
Let me ask you these then. When does Jesus give up this kingdom? At his physical return?
When does Satan get loosed if it is not 1,000 years.
Where does he get all the rebels to attack the "beloved city?"
If this is the eternal abode why does God destroy it later?
So your version of the eternal kingdom has satan gathering a rebellion.
That is reading rev. 20 faithfully!
Revelation 20
King James Version
20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Before we proceed, please give me succinct answers to these please:
1. If this is eterntiy, are you admitting that Satan will be released to deceive the nations again afer your XXXX time frame?
2. He gathers what appears tro be a massive army to besiege the beloved city (Jerusalem is a safe assumption)
3. YOu conclude then that saved people become unsaved to join satan in this rebellion?
4. If the first resurrection is our being raised to newness of life- then is satan bound now with chains?
5. If 4 is true why is there so much sin on earth? Why did Peter an Paul speak of Satan freely roaming the earth seeking whom he may devour? Was He not bound in the early days of the first resurrection? Scripture?
If Jesus kingdom extends into eternity- why does God destroy the universe?
1 Cor. 15:
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
If Jesus is reigning on earth- where is HIs rod of Iron? Do you agree withthe watchtower that evil still exists because Jesus has to fight to end it and it takes time for God to defeat evil in His Kingdom?