Grape: I would have to agree with you too, with a slight correction.Atheists usually try to disprove the Bible, and therefore we pick out the nasty parts and the contradictions but overlooks the good parts. (There are good parts, especially in the new testament.) Thunder1: Good parts also in old testament: teaching, comfort, prophecyGrape: Christians usally try to prove that the Bible is right and therefore you pick out the nice bits but overlooks the contradictions and the nasty bits.Thunder1: I don't need to prove the Bible, truth is already there, nothing to proof anymore. It's up to every individual, do they want to receive Jesus as their saviour or not. God has given that opportunity.Grape:The question is therefore, who is doing most wrong?The one who tries to disprove something by picking out the parts he needs to do it?Or the one who bases his whole life on the book without really taking everything into account?Please, give me a comment on this.Thunder1: There is only one real truth regarding your salvation, which is the main message in the Bible:to repent your unbelief in Jesus Christ as your saviour from your sins and from hell. Today is the day of salvation,don't waste your time.Was that good or nasty bit- you decide.- - -Grape:Keep warm.Thunder1: We had +40 decrees on Saturday. Grape:By the way, what is it called when you, instead of trying to find the good parts, tries to find the bad ones?Raisin picking?Good one !! Raisins are dried grapes, watch out Grape !EDIT: Grape:Atheists picks the cherries that the christians have left.Thunder1: What do you mean by that?