We do not get to choose which generation we were born in do we, hey if it was post-trib in 50 years time for those milliniels that are still alive, we can say we went through harder times than you.
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We do not get to choose which generation we were born in do we, hey if it was post-trib in 50 years time for those milliniels that are still alive, we can say we went through harder times than you.
Bobby Jo
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Stop misquoting Scripiture: DAY or HOUR. Got it? -- DAY or HOUR.
And yes, we are supposed to know the event certainly to the year and season, and even to the week:
1 Thess. 5:2 For you yourselves know well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 When people say, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as travail comes upon a woman with child, and there will be no escape. 4 But you are not in darkness, brethren, for that day to surprise you like a thief.
But apparently some people like surprises,
Bobby Jo
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Waiting on him
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Bobby Jo
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Yeah, Reagan is/was not the anti-christ. Duh.
However, -- No man can buy or sell:
A=6
B=12
C=18 ...
B=12
C=18 ...
C = 18
O = 90
M = 72
P =
U =
T =
E =
R =
O = 90
M = 72
P =
U =
T =
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Ok, now calculate.
Bobby Jo
Just because we know these things will happen and expect them to happen one day, it doesn't mean we know the day, hour, date or year they will happen.
Some Christians have even gone as far as turning their properties into military bases, and stocked up on weapons, some have tried to predict dates of the tribulation, and what they expected on those dates/years did not happen.
And it got worse around the turn of the century....from 2000 to 2020....every year...some preacher announces this is the year of His return....smh.Just because we know these things will happen and expect them to happen one day, it doesn't mean we know the day, hour, date or year they will happen.
Some Christians have even gone as far as turning their properties into military bases, and stocked up on weapons, some have tried to predict dates of the tribulation, and what they expected on those dates/years did not happen.
Okay, I ask one last time....
What does scripture say?
Where is Jesus right now?.....Heaven
Heaven must hold Him back until when?
Until the restoration of ALL things...
What restoration? COMPLETE restoration of ALL things...
Acts 3 (KJV)
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²⁰ And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
²¹ Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
Bobby Jo
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Can you Read? Can you read: DAY or HOUR?
Do you like adding to Scripture? Is GOD's Word so inadequate that you have to interject your own ignorance?
I know GOD's Word, and YOU AIN'T IT.
Bobby Jo
Bobby Jo
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Scripture says the YEAR*; and the Feasts provide the WEEK.
*You might consider the premise proposed by J.R. Church in his book "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms".
And please don't scoff, but rather investigate and possibly discover!
Bobby Jo
I am sure when that day and hour comes we will know.Scripture says the YEAR*; and the Feasts provide the WEEK.
*You might consider the premise proposed by J.R. Church in his book "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms".
And please don't scoff, but rather investigate and possibly discover!
Bobby Jo
But before it comes there are things prophesied to happen first.
Bobby Jo
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WE CAN'T KNOW THE DAY OR THE HOUR, but you don't even know the SEASON, and you should:
1 Thess. 5:2 For you yourselves know well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 When people say, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as travail comes upon a woman with child, and there will be no escape. 4 But you are not in darkness, brethren, for that day to surprise you like a thief.
Not a literal "day", just the season/month and possibly week.
Bobby Jo
Timtofly
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In any case, I don't believe the church will go through the Great Tribulation of Matthew 24; the context just does not seem to be there; the passage seems to be talking about a remnant of Israel.Just because we know these things will happen and expect them to happen one day, it doesn't mean we know the day, hour, date or year they will happen.
Some Christians have even gone as far as turning their properties into military bases, and stocked up on weapons, some have tried to predict dates of the tribulation, and what they expected on those dates/years did not happen.
Dcopymope
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Regardless of however you came to that conclusion from reading Matthew 24, revelation says something entirely different. For those people who believe they will be whisked away before the stink really hits the fan, they will be in for a rather rude awakening, and you can count on that. You're not anymore special to God as a gentile believer than the Jews.
The great tribulation of Matthew 24 is clearly a unique event that is unprecedented; the tribulation idea of John 16.33 is a general principle of trouble, about which the church today may be assured that the Lord Jesus has overcome the world.
Dcopymope
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It is indeed a unique event, that doesn't quite play out the same way in revelation as was depicted in all preceding books. Jesus says the Day of the Lord takes place on the seventh trumpet, yet John says it takes place with the opening of the sixth seal. Jesus and Paul says the seventh trumpet ushers in the rapture, yet John in revelation says the seventh trumpet ushers in the last 3 1/2 years of the great tribulation first before the rapture occurs. There are some major differences between the accounts, and many Christians will be in a world of hurt because of it when the time comes.
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