My understanding of end time events

[Jay Ross]

God said He "confounded" all language (meaning even the scriptures) at the tower of Babel. Then Jesus (not me) said that His "words are spirit." And He said "all things come in parables." So, if you want to read His words as just literature, then you are going to miss the whole truth.

As for spiritualizing....I should hope that all who love the Lord would spiritualize all things...for "God is spirit."

Just as you too seem to be doing.

 

[ScottA]

Just as you too seem to be doing.

How do you mean - confounding, or spiritualizing?

Which I will answer: I am not confounding, but rather all things already are confounded by God, and must be interpreted through the Spirit. But I do spiritualize, for this is the way of the Holy Spirit whom leads us unto all truth.

 

[Jay Ross]

Scott

You seem to want to over contemplate every thing with your particular "spiritually revealed" revelations and emphasis in everything that you post.

It is just an observation on my part because of your initial post in this thread.

I used scripture to confirm what I had posted. You have used your spiritual mind to post what you post.

Since the posts do not compliment each other then what should I assume?

 

[Jay Ross]

Just a bump in the night to allow others to comment on the OP.

 

[bbyrd009]

Armageddon is in our near future.

today is the last day of the rest of your life

 

[Jay Ross]

today is the last day of the rest of your life

I know that that is not true, but I was looking for more substance than what you have provided in the your post. Hopefully, other members will be able to provide their input.

 

[bbyrd009]

I know that that is not true, but I was looking for more substance than what you have provided in the your post.

hmm. well, maybe that just was not for you, dunno, but nonetheless there is truth in it, if you will see it.
You say that you know that that is not true, and yet it is true in a sense.
Will it not be "today" on the day you physically die?
Are you promised a tomorrow?
Are we not told to give no thought for tomorrow?

 

[Jay Ross]

Is there anyone on this forum who can confirm that the Op is an accurate summary of what is to happen between now and the time of the final judgements?

 

[ScottA]

Scott

You seem to want to over contemplate every thing with your particular "spiritually revealed" revelations and emphasis in everything that you post.

It is just an observation on my part because of your initial post in this thread.

I used scripture to confirm what I had posted. You have used your spiritual mind to post what you post.

Since the posts do not compliment each other then what should I assume?

You might use the "Reply" function (lower right) to avoid your replies getting missed like this.

Anyway...to answer your question: It is a fact of history that those who take up the written word as law, and those who look for a sign...are those who killed the prophets and those sent by God to declare what was given to them [in spirit].

God is spirit. I would recommend changing your approach to one that cautiously yields to the spirit. Test, but do not reject, what the spirit says. Flesh and blood, and even words on parchment, are not the future.

 

[bbyrd009]

Armageddon is in our near future.

Armageddon is mentioned exactly one time in Scripture, and it is in the Revelation of Christ

 

[bbyrd009]

Is there anyone on this forum who can confirm that the Op is an accurate summary of what is to happen between now and the time of the final judgements?

ergo as you are encouraging ppl to worry about tomorrow, i can def confirm that the op is yack, if that helps any. Armageddon might be in your near future, just as it will be with anyone in whom Christ is being revealed, sure.

 

[amadeus]

today is the last day of the rest of your life

"I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work." John 9:4
I am not really entering deep into this thread. Rather I thought this verse would help give understanding to the above post by bbyrd009

 

[Jay Ross]

ergo as you are encouraging ppl to worry about tomorrow, i can def confirm that the op is yack, if that helps any. Armageddon might be in your near future, just as it will be with anyone in whom Christ is being revealed, sure.

Thank you for your post, in which you show a grasp for unusual words that convey your meaning but for the plebs, goes over their heads.

As for your inference that I am wanting people to worry about tomorrow then I am guilty as charged in your opinion, however the Saints are also encouraged to study and understand the Holy Scriptures. As to whether or not the OP is trivial as you are suggesting, is really dependant on the reader and their understanding of what the Bible contains with respect to the End Times.

Understanding what is to occur during the end times, I have found, for myself, removes any fears and concerns that I might have in my ignorance. It also helps to me understand how God remains in control and, that as I remain in relationship with Him, I have nothing to fear even if I should suffer for Him in my witness.

 

[Helen]

Armageddon is in our near future. and the driving button for the world is an attempt by the nation of Israel to rebuild the Temple and they will come up against Jerusalem to stop the Temple being completed. It is at this time of this gathering, that the wicked heavenly hosts will be judged along with the kings of the earth and they will be imprisoned in the bottomless pit for 1,000 years (Isa 24:21-22, Rev 12:7-9, Rev 20:1-3).

Immediately, after the judgement of the wicked heavenly hosts and the kings of the earth, all of Israel will be saved (Rom 11:25-26), God will establish His Everlasting Kingdom here on the earth, (Dan2: 44), the Son of man will be given dominion over the peoples of the earth such that they should worship Him (Dan 7:13-14, Rev , and Israel will become the bride of Christ. (Matt 25:1-12).

Then the souls of those who had been beheaded under the altar in heaven are raised up in the first resurrection to become priests with Christ for 1,000 years.

Then, after the 1,000 years, the Bottomless pit will be unlocked, Rev 9:1-2, 20:7, and the locusts will rise up out of the bottomless pit and torment the peoples of the earth. Their leader is the “little horn” although some suggest that there is Satan. (Rev 9:3-11)

This is then followed by the four beast of Daniel 7:1-12 rising up out of the abyss as a single beast and it will utter blasphemies against God and was given authority for 42 months and it will go and make war with the saints and conquer them. (Rev 13;1-10, Dan 7:19-27).

The little horn, called the false prophet, will also rise up out of the abyss and cause people to worship the beast and images of the beast and give people a mark to indicate that they can buy food because they willingly worship the beast.

Satan also rises up out of the abyss and realises that he has only a short time to accomplish his heart’s desire to become king over all of the peoples of the earth and he goes out to the nations at the four corners of the earth to deceive them and leads the nations in the Gog Magog war against Jerusalem and enters to establish his kingdom (Ezekiel 38-39, Rev 20:7-9a)

Christ then leads out the army from heaven and goes against the Beast and the False prophet, capturing them and throwing them into the Lake of fire very near the end of the Millennium Age Rev. 19:11-21, Dan 7:26-27) and then goes up against Satan also capturing him and throwing him into the Lake of fire (Rev 20:9b-10).

Then Death i.e. death as a result of sin, and Hades are thrown into the lake of fire.

It is only then that we see Christ coming in all of his glory with all of the hosts of heaven to begin the time of judgement of the peoples of the earth. At his time all of the dead are resurrected and those who are still alive will meet Christ in the air and in the twinkling of an eye all will be given resurrected bodies for the time of our judgement.

Then the two flocks will be separated and then the separated flock of the sheep and the goats will be separated as well, and the sheep will be separated from the goats and all those not found in the book of life will be dispatched into the Lake of Fire, the wicked and the Goats who did not measure up even though they call Jesus Lord, Lord.

Then the earth will be restored and healed, (Ezekiel 47:7-11) and the saints will go out onto the fields of battle to remove all of the dead bodies to purify the earth. (Ezekiel 39)

After this Christ will sound the alarm and all of the Saints will assemble to form the temple to worship God, just as Christ said he would in John 2:19.

Much of that OP , I believe is written in spiritual terminology and not literally.
I'm not sure how much is going to be literally.
Like "the little horn" etc...I believe much of it is already 'in play' and has been for a while.
Just my two cents...

 

[Helen]

PS, if we are wise...we won't project 'these things' too much into the future...much has started...we just need eyes to see...

 

[Jay Ross]

PS, if we are wise...we won't project 'these things' too much into the future...much has started...we just need eyes to see...

I agree ByGrace, we just need eyes to see what is contained in the End Time Prophecies.

Yes some prophecies have begun to unfold as I write but other prophecies are very much in our distant future. Sadly, many have mixed up the near and distant future prophetic prophecies and as such there is much confusion but unless we begin to understand we will become lost in our own confusion.

 

[Richard_oti]

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Like "the little horn" etc...I believe much of it is already 'in play' and has been for a while.
Just my two cents...

Something we agree upon.

 

[Richard_oti]

Is there anyone on this forum who can confirm that the Op is an accurate summary of what is to happen between now and the time of the final judgements?

I can not do so. From my perspective, the OP contains inaccuracies. One of which, @"ByGrace" has already identified.

 

[bbyrd009]

Thank you for your post, in which you show a grasp for unusual words that convey your meaning but for the plebs, goes over their heads.

seek, and you will find, Mr Ross.

As for your inference that I am wanting people to worry about tomorrow then I am guilty as charged in your opinion, however the Saints are also encouraged to study and understand the Holy Scriptures.

these are pretty obviously two diff subjects, Mr Ross, and while i'm sure you mean no offense, porn would be much better ok. BAM study and understand the Scriptures, and fwiw here this link will get you started ok, Holy Book, hope you understand that the words Bible aren't in the Book so i had to search Book there--and you might notice i use "words" there, that is also for a reason. Everything is for a reason, i guess. Translation, the Book is not Holy, unless you can find a single ref that it is, in which case i will be forced to come back and apologize.

and please begin to understand how horribly, horribly far off you are here, ok. And i don't mean about just taking the Revelation of Christ literally, lots of people do that ok, i did for like 40 years, imo that is part of the process. We are called to seek if we really want to find

As to whether or not the OP is trivial as you are suggesting, is really dependant on the reader and their understanding of what the Bible contains with respect to the End Times.

i'm not quite getting how the relevance of the op is dependent upon the reader, but i'm still waking up lol. I would mostly ask how you plan to reconcile all this with Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. And there are a few others that are obviously not being observed, and i hope you understand that i am not meaning to even get into the literal accuracy of your op, because i happen to disagree with it so i would intentionally avoid that; and imo that part is entirely your business, ok, you can believe those things if you like, and i would not even consider you any lesser for it. But on a spiritual level, your op fails from the first sentence, and just keeps getting worse imo, and if i were to shred it (for the sake of mutual understanding, i encourage you to have a go at one of mine, that is why i'm here, dunno about anyone else tho k) the critique would go something like this

Armageddon is in our near future. Take no thought for tomorrow. He who says he knows does not know.
and the driving button for the world is an attempt by the nation of Israel to rebuild the Temple and they will come up against Jerusalem to stop the Temple being completed. i doubt most people care about that even a little, and Jews and Muslims certainly do not, except for a fringe group or two in each discipline. The rest know where the real temple is supposed to be constructed.
It is at this time of this gathering, that the wicked heavenly hosts will be judged along with the kings of the earth and they will be imprisoned in the bottomless pit for 1,000 years (Isa 24:21-22, Rev 12:7-9, Rev 20:1-3). If you dig a pit for someone else, you fall into it yourself. These have already been judged anyway, right. "Wicked heavenly hosts," i mean will you pls listen to yourself now

Understanding what is to occur during the end times, I have found, for myself, removes any fears and concerns that I might have in my ignorance.

BAM understand Mr Ross, and we have an eschatology section for that, that i purposely stay completely out of...that i see i have wandered back into, my apologies. I will once again lobby to get this section dropped from New Posts, as it is so obviously satanic. Anyway, yes, all of your fears are going to come true for you, as Scripture assures you, and i am not worried even a little bit, ok. Best of luck

It also helps to me understand how God remains in control and, that as I remain in relationship with Him, I have nothing to fear even if I should suffer for Him in my witness.

ok Mr Ross, if hearing and disseminating "An atom bomb will be dropped on all of us tomorrow" is somehow comforting to you then i again ask your forgiveness, it takes all kinds, and i don't mean to scoff ok.

 

[bbyrd009]

PS, if we are wise...we won't project 'these things' too much into the future...much has started...we just need eyes to see...

nice, couldn't have said it better.

The Revelation was as valid 3000 years ago as it is today, and It was not written for some special generation, except to validate that they are deceived so that they might reveal themselves, imo.

Now concerning how and when all this will happen, dear brothers and sisters, we don't really need to write you.

Seems awful strange that the brothers and sisters did not need to be written to about this, yet today it is considered a scholarly pursuit right. Go and find out why we don't really need to write you, if you are so sure that you are included in that group.