New World Order

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Reggie Belafonte

Well-Known Member
Mar 16, 2018
5,871
2,919
113
63
Brisbane
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
i can hear it now, actually; "We're the real Jews!"
imo we have ezackly zero differences from OT Israelites; NT for sure
Jews are a Religion not a race and that's the OT Religion end of story.
Jesus came 2000 years ago and the OT was finished wrapped up and died the end and then Salvation came in the NT that the fulfilment of the OT blueprint came to life in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour for ever, he is the King of Israel and he is our lord and Saviour to Christians who abide in him.
Remember in him only and nothing other at all ever !

Christians follow the King of Israel because he is the King of his Servants and that is Born again Christians.
 

Reggie Belafonte

Well-Known Member
Mar 16, 2018
5,871
2,919
113
63
Brisbane
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
There is truth in these posts you have made in this thread. I posted this video before. Jews are protesting against Israel and Zionism. There is video after video where are they doing this. This is just one of those videos.

That Jewish man is totally correct in what he is saying because he is a true Jew, and the media do not show the true Jews and what they truly say at all, the media have a ban on them people and it's controlled by Zionist Nazis mad men who are of Satan who are trying to make the true Jews out to be the evil people.

Zionism is just like the Nazis, Satanic and Socialist Marxist madness that works to control people with the art of Political Correctness.
 

Truth

Well-Known Member
May 31, 2017
1,737
1,797
113
71
AZ, Quartzsite
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I would not bother with the Talmud at all, as it gives me the creeps.

The thing is with idiots that they will idolise people, they will come and idolise me for being a Jew and then the same bastards will turn and attack people who they claim to be Jews when their world goes wrong, thing is they never listen ! and they don't know what they are talking about.

A Jewish person can become a Christian, but this is rejected totally by many who get enraged, I don't know why, because a lot of Atheist and some so called Christians reject the fact.
Such is the work of Satan in the people I have come across, they reject everything I say and I ask my self why is this huge full on hostility to me, when they are totally ignorant of the Bible or some brainwashed dolt claiming to be a Christian, maybe with such that make the claim of being a Christian are the ones who peddle end of times and the 3rd Testament, thinking that Jesus is coming back in the flesh ? it will be the Devil who they will worship as their jesus and the Talmud whore Moloch the Golden Calf etc etc that will be there gods, I can see it as everything is heading that way, Jesus Christ is under attack full on nowadays in every Church, Governments, Schools you name it.
Preaching idolising of Jews, well the Jews were worthless back in the days before Jesus because they had failed God and most did not pick up who Jesus was and nor do they nowadays, such is very sad but Satan rules this world because people are stuck in worldly works and can not fathom that the Holy Spirit is what's needed above all things in your life to deal with all the madness of people getting hung up on worldly things, it's like they are all stuck in 1st gear and don't or can not change up a gear.

When Jesus comes into your life being born again ? you change up a gear, you have progressed, that is what the 2ed coming is all about. Jesus comes in the Holy Spirit, he is not coming as a man in the flesh as the Bible points this fact out.

People who are wanting the end of times are under the power of Satan and much like a dog chasing it's tail. or a dog that goes back to eat it's own vomit.

The Jews have nothing to offer and never did, I point to Jesus is the only way and some fool claims oh oh oh the jews the jews, come off it ! mans works for crying out loud does not cut it and never did.

WOW! I just read your response, If I may ask, are you you of Hebrew descent?? If so there is nothing normal about you turning to the Savior! That said there is nothing to stop you from believing what you may have been taught within your upbringing. It is Absolutely OK to be of Hebrew upbringing and be a believer in the Savior. Let them stew in there own juice! My main concern is the Truth, and there have been a few that I trust, as to the Truth, Be who you are in the Faith, and let no one deceive you with the Churchified way.
I am only responding with what I presume you are trying to express, I am not sure???
 

truthquest

Well-Known Member
May 23, 2010
846
780
93
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
That Jewish man is totally correct in what he is saying because he is a true Jew, and the media do not show the true Jews and what they truly say at all, the media have a ban on them people and it's controlled by Zionist Nazis mad men who are of Satan who are trying to make the true Jews out to be the evil people.
I guess that means that the Zionists have enough control over the American news media to make sure that only their side of the story is heard.

Is it true that Zionism was founded by Theodor Herzl who was an atheist?
 

Reggie Belafonte

Well-Known Member
Mar 16, 2018
5,871
2,919
113
63
Brisbane
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
WOW! I just read your response, If I may ask, are you you of Hebrew descent?? If so there is nothing normal about you turning to the Savior! That said there is nothing to stop you from believing what you may have been taught within your upbringing. It is Absolutely OK to be of Hebrew upbringing and be a believer in the Savior. Let them stew in there own juice! My main concern is the Truth, and there have been a few that I trust, as to the Truth, Be who you are in the Faith, and let no one deceive you with the Churchified way.
I am only responding with what I presume you are trying to express, I am not sure???
My Dad is from Hebrew decent, he had the typical nose and all and loved the Jews for what they can do being the best in many things and all. he could not give jack about going to the Holy lands he had been there and all over the world and said Australia was the best and said that the Jews should come here to help build this Nation and to forget about the desert that was not worth 2 goat droppings.
When WW2 was on, his mum and dad had a plan in how they were going to kill themselves and all their children if Hitler was to take over Australia.
My dad was a Christian believer but not Church going but his Dad was staunch Christian Roman Catholic, the other two generations born in Australia were Christians as well and the one before them was a Christian as well, we do not know anything more about the line but we did have a family gathering of 100 or more who came and there was a plate that one could donate to find out the history of before what we know, but there was only 15cents and a tooth pick to be found in it, so my Uncle gave up bothering to look into such.

I don't care about such things as race to much, I think such things can be nonsense, when one looks into things.
Take for example Australian Aboriginals I have always said that full bloods were Abos and that once mixed they were not truly abos but something other and that's what word Aboriginal truly means, it's full blood but nowadays the word aboriginals has been cunningly bastardised to cover much regardless, we have fools claiming to be abos who are only 5% abo, sadly such people making such a claim are under delusions conjured up by a Satanic Government etc, such foolish who make such claims is an attack on the full blood Aboriginal people, that in fact is only working to undermined them and it's underhanded deceitful attempt of Satanist to destroy the true Aboriginal peoples.
I lived with full blood abos and have been good mates with them for 45 years and we agree that this is the case of Satan is at work in all this.

But with the point about the Jews it's much the same, but it in fact is not a race but a people who were a Religion called Hebrews, meaning they were separated out of from the others, namely from the other Semitic tribes, so it's not a race at all truly but that they were a community people of God separated from all others, exclusive ! following in line with Abraham as he was exclusive from the others and as we see in Holy Moses that he brought the flock back out of enslavement under mans works nonsense and the whole point of this all, was to lead to Jesus Christ.

But now Jesus Christ is under attack from the Satanist that want to bring about The Third Reich ? because people are to stupid to understand what such truly is, because they are not truly educated on such a topic, so they will just dismiss what I say.
Hitler's Socialist new order will come about MK 2 it's here all around us and the trump card is called Political Correctness and such is a intent of just another attempt at a governments total control over the people that wants desperately to enslave you all like cattle, because they are corrupt as hell.
It's a madness of the Satanic extreme right wing capitalism madness in bed with the extreme Satanic left wing Communist Marxist, their is a plan to wipe out billions of people in their plans, some have even said such openly especially the greenies party.
Russia starved to death over 10 million people to maybe 20 million in the Ukraine before WW2 and not many even know this or give a toss about how such was done, until it happens to them and it looks like it will.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Truth and Helen

Reggie Belafonte

Well-Known Member
Mar 16, 2018
5,871
2,919
113
63
Brisbane
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
I guess that means that the Zionists have enough control over the American news media to make sure that only their side of the story is heard.

Is it true that Zionism was founded by Theodor Herzl who was an atheist?
That must be the case with the media, but it's not only the so called Zionist but much more to it then just them.

The So called Zionism is more of a foundation of the Golden Calf mob and Moloch worship etc
Not all the Zionist are bad people but just miss led and corrupted by small mob of who ever from what I can make out of it.
 

truthquest

Well-Known Member
May 23, 2010
846
780
93
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
That must be the case with the media, but it's not only the so called Zionist but much more to it then just them.

The So called Zionism is more of a foundation of the Golden Calf mob and Moloch worship etc
Not all the Zionist are bad people but just miss led and corrupted by small mob of who ever from what I can make out of it.
It is the case with the media because the media only covers the Zionist side of things when it is mentioned in the news. Yes I know it's not only about the Zionists because the media is controlled about many things and by many people for their own interests and goals.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Helen

Reggie Belafonte

Well-Known Member
Mar 16, 2018
5,871
2,919
113
63
Brisbane
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
It's about the OT Religion, being of that belief, it's not a race.
Anyone can join a religion.
Does a religion own you ?
Does a religion own your race ?
Can anyone prove that they are of the Tribe of Israel or Judah for a fact ?
Can anyone prove they are from the blood line of the tribe Israel or Judah, well no because their was no blood line to start with, the people who took it up was to do with Faith and then came the tribes of Israel and then Judah and then they got mixed with any other race over 3000 years.
So anyone who claims they are of the Jewish race is having you on, or maybe you could say you are from the Christian race ?
The Semitic race is not a religion, but from the Semitic people came the Jewish Religion and also Islam and also Christianity.
Without Judaism Christianity would of never came about.

People who claim Judah Christianity nowadays are wrong, it's called Christianity only, such is just an attempt to hijack and put Christianity under Jewish OT control or most likely Zionist control and that means kicking Jesus Christ out of the picture and this is being conducted, even the stupid Jesuit Freemason Pope Frances is playing that card and that bastard never mentions Jesus Christ but only the Freemason god.
 

Reggie Belafonte

Well-Known Member
Mar 16, 2018
5,871
2,919
113
63
Brisbane
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
Read it with interest, particularly in what was not said.

Yes having a dominnent religous view has lead to that view being pushed and other views marginalised or penalised.
But two points not covered.
1/ Only Christianity teaches aboutequality for all.
2/ atheism is as guilty as any other religous view of compelling people to believe in atheism.

As Christians we are to promote Jesus and not our political view, to protecte the poor and vunerable no matter how much we dislike them.
Yes Atheism is a religion Communism is a Religion and the Leader is worshiped as a god, look at rocket man, no one in that country dare not idolise that evil moron.
Atheist are the biggest ignorant belligerent deluded morons you can come across.
 

Phoneman777

Well-Known Member
Jan 14, 2015
7,402
2,594
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Those who believe in the rapture of the Church, such as I, are no different than the rest of Christianity that is to be looking for the 2nd Coming of Christ. We all are to be watching...arn't we? So no matter when the rapture occurs or if it doesn't occur, we still watch and anticipate the intervention of Christ during that terrible time.

World events are very interesting to me. Just yesterday I listened to the English representative say that England will not follow the U.S. in pulling out of the Iranian deal. England has chosen to remain united instead with Europe. I think this is very telling. That new world order is going to be centered in the area of the old Roman Empire. And the U.S. is not there geographically. And, we are losing our political clout all over the world.

At present the U.S. is represented by the Christian people of the country, but that is not always the case. Under Obama we were represented by the anti-christian people of the country. Thus under Obama we are brought into a bad deal with Iran, which threatens Israel, who are the promised people of God also. Now under Trump we pull out of the deal and sanction Iran again to the benefit of Israel. Israel has the freedom as far as the U.S is concerned, to fire away at Iran if need be. As she did yesterday. But U.S support for Israel now lasts only as long as the election dictates. Which means in a couple of years it may be gone as anti-christian leftists take power. And Israel knows this.

So we are becoming isolated from the Western world but still allied with Israel. Russia is allied with Iran an enemy of Israel. And I believe Scripture indicates Russia will one day attack Israel. But Russia would never do this if we were there. Which begs the question, where did we go?

Stranger
Where in Scripture do you find "Russia" mentioned?
 

Stranger

Well-Known Member
Oct 5, 2016
8,826
3,157
113
Texas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
But the name "Russia" is not mentioned, of course, so how can you tell?

Start with the Table of Nations in (Gen. 10)

Of this table Henry Morris says of... "Dr. William F. Albright, universally acknowledged as the world's leading authority on the archaeology of the Near East, though himself not a believer in the infallibility of Scripture, said concerning this Table of Nations: 'It stands absolutely alone in ancient literature, without a remote parallel, even among the Greeks,where we find the closest approach to a distribution of peoples in genealogical framework....The Table of Nations remains an astonishingly accurate document.' "

Morris goes on to say: "Returning to Japheth, we find his second son, Magog, listed. This name can mean 'the place of Gog,' and so quite possibly referred to Georgia, a region near the Black Sea still known by that name. Josephus says that Magog (or Gog) was the ancestor of the scythians, who also originally inhabited the Black Sea area.

"Magog is commonly associated in the Bible with two other sons of Japheth--Meshech and Tubal (especially Ezekiel 38:2). Meshech clearly is preserved in the name Muskovi (the former name of Russia) and Moscow. Tubal is known in the Assyrian monuments as the Tibareni, and probably has been preserved in the modern Russian city of Tobolsk. In Ezekiel 38:2 they are associated with 'Rosh', a name from which modern 'Russia' was derived. Generally speaking, therefore, these three sons of Japheth--Magog, Meshech, Tubal--can be considered as the progenitors of the modern Russian peoples."

Taken from (The Genesis Record, Henry Morris, Baker, 1995, p.245-247)

Stranger
 
  • Like
Reactions: Truth

Reggie Belafonte

Well-Known Member
Mar 16, 2018
5,871
2,919
113
63
Brisbane
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
At the end of the day it's Anti-Christ and true Christians that everything is about.

Every Nation has it's satanic mobs.

I am sure Russia has it's good and bad just as every Nation.

It's about the art work of deceptions and temptation that work to lead others astray from God.
Just look at the media what a whore it is nowadays, who controls it ? the Anti-Christ do.
 

Reggie Belafonte

Well-Known Member
Mar 16, 2018
5,871
2,919
113
63
Brisbane
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
The Prejudice towards the Russian people is a disgrace.

Funny that the major prejudice of Russia is coming from the Left, who promote Political Correctness as there god and here we have them sprouting major prejudice, like only they can.

The word Political is Prejudice it's self, so how can Political be Correct, when it never is, it's only an ideology. it's a system of socialist madness of Marxist = mans works = Anti-Christ.

Why try to do harm to a people, it must be a work of Satan to do as such and if they want to take Russia on, well they will regret being such morons, this is not 1945 with crappy little bombs that USA dropped on the Japs.
The PC Socialist drones are dickheads that can't see beyond there nose.
The PC Socialist leadership are Satanist, who lead the world astray.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Enoch111

Stranger

Well-Known Member
Oct 5, 2016
8,826
3,157
113
Texas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The Prejudice towards the Russian people is a disgrace.

Funny that the major prejudice of Russia is coming from the Left, who promote Political Correctness as there god and here we have them sprouting major prejudice, like only they can.

The word Political is Prejudice it's self, so how can Political be Correct, when it never is, it's only an ideology. it's a system of socialist madness of Marxist = mans works = Anti-Christ.

Why try to do harm to a people, it must be a work of Satan to do as such and if they want to take Russia on, well they will regret being such morons, this is not 1945 with crappy little bombs that USA dropped on the Japs.
The PC Socialist drones are dickheads that can't see beyond there nose.
The PC Socialist leadership are Satanist, who lead the world astray.

To identify Russia as Gog and Magog is not prejudicial. It is simply interpreting the Scripture. Same could be said for identifying Western Europe as the realm of the anti-christ. For it will be that same area of the Old Roman Empire. Same could be said for identifying Israel as accepting of, not only the anti-christ, but the false prophet also, but yet rejecting her Messiah.

Stranger
 

Reggie Belafonte

Well-Known Member
Mar 16, 2018
5,871
2,919
113
63
Brisbane
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
To identify Russia as Gog and Magog is not prejudicial. It is simply interpreting the Scripture. Same could be said for identifying Western Europe as the realm of the anti-christ. For it will be that same area of the Old Roman Empire. Same could be said for identifying Israel as accepting of, not only the anti-christ, but the false prophet also, but yet rejecting her Messiah.

Stranger
I don't think we can identify a place as in regards to magog and gog, such does not make any sense, it is what people do that makes the problem regardless of who or where.
Is it a race that we are on about with magog and gog, well that's just stupid beyond belief to come up with something like that.

Jesus says what the problem with man is, it's the Sin that we all have to deal with right from the start in order to deal with any problem, but nowadays the new age Socialist they dismiss Sin as the key to problems, because they see people as a commodity, just like cattle.
But the new age Socialist will jump up and say but we have human rights you know, well well well now that another subject that can be study into at great length, but when we look into that subject we can see that with all Anti-Christ they not bound to any solid foundation, they float about with the wind and can change like a trend and make a 180 deg turn today and what ever tomorrow, like the bastards they are.
There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end.
Communist proposes to enslave men by force.
Socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.

Many are against Capitalism and rightly so, I am not idolising it but it should have a social conscious, idolising Capitalism is madness as it has to be regulated for the betterment of all.

I have a stupid builder mate who is a far right wing nut, In the boom lets say a average house was say $100.000 well this moron wanted the price to go up to $200.000 and it did, but he insisted it keep going up to 10 times that making it $1 million, I said such a thing is just moronic and started to explain why and he went ballistic and said he did not give a rats about anyone who could not afford a house as they could just rent off him, I said what about you nipper, oh he had a answer for that, well what you do is ? I said he should go live in India where they treat there own people like that.
He says that his workers are payed too much and that half would be about right, well if no one earns enough no one can buy jack and the whole Nation will become a sh-t hole and fail badly.
He can not see the forest for the trees, he is an atheist and has a inferiority complex and truly claims that the man who dies with the most money is the greater man. it's true that we have morons like that around. he hates unions I said without unions most people would live like crap and the Nation would suffer, but the problems with unions in Australia's history is they are morons, just great fat stupid communist backward slobs who try to destroy company's, they are just retards claiming so much BS it's not funny and if you question them, they work to intimidate you first and then if that does not work, they want to try to bash you up or kill you. everyone has to have mush for brains and just follow along like a donkey. Europe had a much better system but we got the UK type of backward type that encourages just bludgers and bastards.
I have never been in a union but I would of liked to been in one if they were value for there money but they were not in my line of work as all they wanted was money for nothing.
 

Phoneman777

Well-Known Member
Jan 14, 2015
7,402
2,594
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Start with the Table of Nations in (Gen. 10)

Of this table Henry Morris says of... "Dr. William F. Albright, universally acknowledged as the world's leading authority on the archaeology of the Near East, though himself not a believer in the infallibility of Scripture, said concerning this Table of Nations: 'It stands absolutely alone in ancient literature, without a remote parallel, even among the Greeks,where we find the closest approach to a distribution of peoples in genealogical framework....The Table of Nations remains an astonishingly accurate document.' "

Morris goes on to say: "Returning to Japheth, we find his second son, Magog, listed. This name can mean 'the place of Gog,' and so quite possibly referred to Georgia, a region near the Black Sea still known by that name. Josephus says that Magog (or Gog) was the ancestor of the scythians, who also originally inhabited the Black Sea area.

"Magog is commonly associated in the Bible with two other sons of Japheth--Meshech and Tubal (especially Ezekiel 38:2). Meshech clearly is preserved in the name Muskovi (the former name of Russia) and Moscow. Tubal is known in the Assyrian monuments as the Tibareni, and probably has been preserved in the modern Russian city of Tobolsk. In Ezekiel 38:2 they are associated with 'Rosh', a name from which modern 'Russia' was derived. Generally speaking, therefore, these three sons of Japheth--Magog, Meshech, Tubal--can be considered as the progenitors of the modern Russian peoples."

Taken from (The Genesis Record, Henry Morris, Baker, 1995, p.245-247)

Stranger
I can see by what is clearly a very subjective interpretation of Scripture that Russia could be Gog and Magog if the prophesied battle in Revelation 20 took place before the Second Coming when Russia still exists as a nation.

However, we in the West who place the climax of a story at the end need to understand that the Bible writers used Hebrew Chiastic structure of compositon where they place the climax of the story at the middle of its telling (verse 10) and then backtrack to an earlier point of the story where it resumes with added details (verse 11-15). Revelation 20 is an extraordinarily textbook example of this which, if we don't destroy the Chiasm by Western ideas, clearly teaches that the battle of God and Magog happens:
  • after the First Resurrection at the glorious return of Jesus, at which the wicked drop dead where they stand;
  • after the thousand years of Earthly darkness, desolation, and completely devoid of any human activity;
  • after the Second Resurrection of the lost at which time they are gathered together by Satan.
Since Russia, like all nations, has long since been destroyed, "God and Magog" are prophetic symbols of this entire great wicked multitude of the lost of all ages which, by their final act of defiance, prove that they are beyond the reach of Christ's redemptive power - and in one final act of mercy, God destroys them out of existence for all eternity.
 
Last edited: