No More Death

[David in NJ]

You have no answer to my question of how all the takers of Mark of the beast are going to be allowed into a Pre-mil view of another 1000 years on earth, after Jesus returns in all His Glory. However, I do. They all shall be burned to a crisp, as having never been born.

Those who take the Mark never make it to the 1,000 Year Reign of Rev ch20 for they are destroyed at His Coming.

Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

[Earburner]

"The mark of the beast" hasn't been issued yet, but it's now in the beginning stages with the proposal of a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDCs). In the US, its known as the "Digital Dollar". With their new economic paradigm already being experimented with, in pilot programs of 90+ countries, all they will be looking for, or creating, is a catalyst to implement it. Bank failures on a global scale, food shortages with mandatory rationing, another plandemic, or even Nuclear war.

 

[rwb]

That isn't part of a resurrection. We are born again while physically alive. This is not one part of a multi-part process either. It is one part and done.

After we physically die, we await a physical resurrection which is one part not two.

There are two resurrections in Rev 20. This is a two part process where the first group are the saved in Christ, whom live again through resurrection. This is the first part called the first resurrection.

The rest of the dead do not resurrect until the thousand years has ended. They are the second part of the resurrection of the dead being the unsaved dead.

We are born again while we are physically alive and spiritually dead! You who were dead in trespasses and sins! Do you think Paul is addressing corpses? Of course not! He's warning us regarding our spiritual state because the Kingdom of God is within you and spiritual, not physical. Millennialists drone on and on about two physical resurrections separated by one thousand years but cannot explain the souls John sees being alive after they have physically died on earth. They are not physical because there will not be a physical resurrection until the end of this age of time.

Explain who are the souls John sees alive after they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years? How can they be physically alive after death before the last trumpet sounds?

There will not be two physical resurrections of the dead no matter how many times you continue to spread falsehood and you and all millennialists know it!

John 5:28-29 (KJV) Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

 

[rwb]

How are they in the Amill Millennium?

Amill does not believe a thousand years means ONE thousand years. That's what differentiates Amill which means NO millennium, from Millennialists who believe a thousand years physically means ONE thousand years.

 

[rwb]

Those who take the Mark never make it to the 1,000 Year Reign of Rev ch20 for they are destroyed at His Coming.

That doesn't make sense, because the souls John sees alive during this period of time "were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years"? How could they have been faithful unto death during a thousand years by refusing to take the mark of the beast if the beast has already been destroyed?

Also you still have not given an answer for how these souls can be physically alive a thousand years if a thousand years does not begin until Christ returns the second time?

 

[David in NJ]

That doesn't make sense, because the souls John sees alive during this period of time "were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years"? How could they have been faithful unto death during a thousand years by refusing to take the mark of the beast if the beast has already been destroyed?

Also you still have not given an answer for how these souls can be physically alive a thousand years if a thousand years does not begin until Christ returns the second time?

It does not make sense to you because someone told you that we are currently in the 1,000 year period of Rev ch20.

It is impossible for us to currently be in the 1,000 year period of Rev ch20.

Here is how you know it is impossible: 1 Thess 4:13-18

But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

15For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are [d]asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18Therefore comfort one another with these words.

 

[ewq1938]

There is no such thing as beginning stages of the mark. The mark is not currency or any form of it. The mark is created by the AC and is issued to people to control who can buy or sell, using whatever monetary system that is in place. The mark is not mandatory, nor does the bible state refusal of it alone is a death sentence.

 

[rwb]

It does not make sense to you because someone told you that we are currently in the 1,000 year period of Rev ch20.

It is impossible for us to currently be in the 1,000 year period of Rev ch20.

Here is how you know it is impossible: 1 Thess 4:13-18

But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen 1 Thessalonians 4 NKJVasleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who [c]sleep in Jesus.

15For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are [d]asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18Therefore comfort one another with these words.

Then why aren't you able to explain how if your ONE thousand years are physical and on this earth after Christ returns, can John see souls physically alive after physical death who LIVED and REIGNED with Christ during this period? Nor can you explain how these living souls in life during a thousand years refused the mark of the beast you say will not be around during this time you imagine is ONE thousand years after the return of Christ.

There is only ONE physical resurrection of the DEAD when the last trumpet sounds at the end of this age in an hour coming. ALL of the physically dead will be resurrected together either to resurrection of life or resurrection of damnation. Then those in Christ who are still physically alive on earth at His coming will be physically resurrected with the physically dead in Christ, and with them meet the Lord in the air. After the wrath of God through fire comes down to burn up everything and everyone left alive on this earth at that time, there will be no one, and no more time given this earth, because the age of eternity on the new earth will have come.

 

[David in NJ]

Then why aren't you able to explain how if your ONE thousand years are physical and on this earth after Christ returns, can John see souls physically alive after physical death who LIVED and REIGNED with Christ during this period? Nor can you explain how these living souls in life during a thousand years refused the mark of the beast you say will not be around during this time you imagine is ONE thousand years after the return of Christ.

There is only ONE physical resurrection of the DEAD when the last trumpet sounds at the end of this age in an hour coming. ALL of the physically dead will be resurrected together either to resurrection of life or resurrection of damnation. Then those in Christ who are still physically alive on earth at His coming will be physically resurrected with the physically dead in Christ, and with them meet the Lord in the air. After the wrath of God through fire comes down to burn up everything and everyone left alive on this earth at that time, there will be no one, and no more time given this earth, because the age of eternity on the new earth will have come.

You said: John see souls physically alive after physical death who LIVED and REIGNED with Christ during this period?

post this passage of scripture please - ty

 

[rwb]

Here is how you know it is impossible: 1 Thess 4:13-18

But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen 1 Thessalonians 4 NKJVasleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who [c]sleep in Jesus.

15For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are [d]asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18Therefore comfort one another with these words.

You think quoting these verses proves a thousand years will be ONE thousand years after Christ returns? But what it really proves is that you do not believe the words of Christ. Christ very clearly says that whosoever lives and believes in Him shall NEVER die. Physical death does not mean death of the spirit in man indwelt with the Spirit from Christ. In physical death they are said to "sleep in Jesus" as Paul has written. Since after physical death the spirit given by God to every human returns to God in heaven, but only those who have died/sleep in Christ return alive through His Spirit to be with the Lord in heaven until the spiritual Kingdom of God is complete.

That's why John sees ALIVE faithful souls after physical death. They are not alive physically but spiritual souls, as are the angels of God in heaven. Physical death could not kill their living (spirit) souls, because they remained faithful unto death. This is how those who sleep in Jesus (spirit (living) soul) return with Him to be reunited with a changed immortal & incorruptible body to live with Christ forever on the new earth.

It seems you lack faith to believe the words of Christ. If you cannot understand the life we receive through Christ NEVER dies, then you have not understood the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven that is being built within the hearts of believers as the Gospel is sent in the power of His Spirit unto all the nations of the world.

 

[rwb]

There is no such thing as beginning stages of the mark. The mark is not currency or any form of it. The mark is created by the AC and is issued to people to control who can buy or sell, using whatever monetary system that is in place. The mark is not mandatory, nor does the bible state refusal of it alone is a death sentence.

I agree. It was refusing to receive the mark of the beast that enabled the faithful, physically dead souls to continue to be alive after physical death during this time of a thousand years when they lived and reigned with Christ.

 

[David in NJ]

You think quoting these verses proves a thousand years will be ONE thousand years after Christ returns? But what it really proves is that you do not believe the words of Christ. Christ very clearly says that whosoever lives and believes in Him shall NEVER die. Physical death does not mean death of the spirit in man indwelt with the Spirit from Christ. In physical death they are said to "sleep in Jesus" as Paul has written. Since after physical death the spirit given by God to every human returns to God in heaven, but only those who have died/sleep in Christ return alive through His Spirit to be with the Lord in heaven until the spiritual Kingdom of God is complete.

That's why John sees ALIVE faithful souls after physical death. They are not alive physically but spiritual souls, as are the angels of God in heaven. Physical death could not kill their living (spirit) souls, because they remained faithful unto death. This is how those who sleep in Jesus (spirit (living) soul) return with Him to be reunited with a changed immortal & incorruptible body to live with Christ forever on the new earth.

It seems you lack faith to believe the words of Christ. If you cannot understand the life we receive through Christ NEVER dies, then you have not understood the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven that is being built within the hearts of believers as the Gospel is sent in the power of His Spirit unto all the nations of the world.

100% = If we are in Christ, we can never die, only our flesh dies and goes to the grave.

John ch11
Martha said to Jesus, “Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died. 22But even now I know that God will give You whatever You ask of Him.”

23“Your brother will rise again,” Jesus told her.

24Martha replied, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

25Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life.
Whoever believes in Me will live, even though he dies.
26And everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?”

Ask your self this question: Has the LORD Returned and Resurrected the dead in Him as well as transforming our mortal bodies into immortal glorified bodies?

This is a simple YES/NO answer

 

[David in NJ]

You think quoting these verses proves a thousand years will be ONE thousand years after Christ returns? But what it really proves is that you do not believe the words of Christ. Christ very clearly says that whosoever lives and believes in Him shall NEVER die. Physical death does not mean death of the spirit in man indwelt with the Spirit from Christ. In physical death they are said to "sleep in Jesus" as Paul has written. Since after physical death the spirit given by God to every human returns to God in heaven, but only those who have died/sleep in Christ return alive through His Spirit to be with the Lord in heaven until the spiritual Kingdom of God is complete.

That's why John sees ALIVE faithful souls after physical death. They are not alive physically but spiritual souls, as are the angels of God in heaven. Physical death could not kill their living (spirit) souls, because they remained faithful unto death. This is how those who sleep in Jesus (spirit (living) soul) return with Him to be reunited with a changed immortal & incorruptible body to live with Christ forever on the new earth.

It seems you lack faith to believe the words of Christ. If you cannot understand the life we receive through Christ NEVER dies, then you have not understood the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven that is being built within the hearts of believers as the Gospel is sent in the power of His Spirit unto all the nations of the world.

Post #92 has been completed for you to review and respond to - ty

 

[rwb]

You said: John see souls physically alive after physical death who LIVED and REIGNED with Christ during this period?

post this passage of scripture please - ty

Perhaps you are referencing reply #90 where I said:

"That's why John sees ALIVE faithful souls after physical death. They are not alive physically but spiritual souls, as are the angels of God in heaven."

I can't find reference to your above quote. How could John see physical life after death since they will not have physical life again until the last trumpet sounds the hour coming when ALL who are who are in the graves will be physically resurrected either to life, or damnation.

Revelation 20:4 (KJVSL) And καί I saw εἴδω thrones θρόνος, and καί they sat καθίζω upon ἐπί them αὐτός, and καί judgment κρίμα was given δίδωμι unto them αὐτός: and καί I saw the souls ψυχή of them that were beheaded πελεκίζω for διά the witness μαρτυρία of Jesus Ἰησοῦς, and καί for διά the word λόγος of God θεός, and καί which ὅστις had προσκυνέω not οὐ worshipped προσκυνέω the beast θηρίον, neither οὔτε his αὐτός image εἰκών, καί neither οὐ had received λαμβάνω his mark χάραγμα upon ἐπί their αὐτός foreheads μέτωπον, or καί in ἐπί their αὐτός hands χείρ; and καί they lived ζάω and καί reigned βασιλεύω with μετά Christ Χριστός a thousand χίλιοι years ἔτος.

The Greek word translated "I saw" is eídō - be aware, behold, × can (+ not tell), consider, (have) know(-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wish, wot.

Through the vision John became aware or understood that for all who physically die in faith, are still spiritually alive after death. (Jo 11:25-26) John could not see physical life after death of them because to be without a head is to be without a physical body. John still writes they are alive after physical death as 'souls' in heaven. Because death of their body cannot destroy the spirit in man indwelt with the Holy Spirit. (Jo 6:63) John was given understanding of life after physical death for the faithful. Without a soul there is no life. (Mt. 10:28) But John is given understanding of life (soul) existing in heaven after physical death and that without a body become as the angels in heaven after His cross and resurrection. (Mt. 22:30-32)

These living souls, as spirits lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. How can a thousand years not come until after Christ returns since these faithful saints have LIVED and REIGNED with Christ in this time?

 

[David in NJ]

Perhaps you are referencing reply #90 where I said:

"That's why John sees ALIVE faithful souls after physical death. They are not alive physically but spiritual souls, as are the angels of God in heaven."

I can't find reference to your above quote. How could John see physical life after death since they will not have physical life again until the last trumpet sounds the hour coming when ALL who are who are in the graves will be physically resurrected either to life, or damnation.

Revelation 20:4 (KJVSL) And καί I saw εἴδω thrones θρόνος, and καί they sat καθίζω upon ἐπί them αὐτός, and καί judgment κρίμα was given δίδωμι unto them αὐτός: and καί I saw the souls ψυχή of them that were beheaded πελεκίζω for διά the witness μαρτυρία of Jesus Ἰησοῦς, and καί for διά the word λόγος of God θεός, and καί which ὅστις had προσκυνέω not οὐ worshipped προσκυνέω the beast θηρίον, neither οὔτε his αὐτός image εἰκών, καί neither οὐ had received λαμβάνω his mark χάραγμα upon ἐπί their αὐτός foreheads μέτωπον, or καί in ἐπί their αὐτός hands χείρ; and καί they lived ζάω and καί reigned βασιλεύω with μετά Christ Χριστός a thousand χίλιοι years ἔτος.

The Greek word translated "I saw" is eídō - be aware, behold, × can (+ not tell), consider, (have) know(-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wish, wot.

Through the vision John became aware or understood that for all who physically die in faith, are still spiritually alive after death. (Jo 11:25-26) John could not see physical life after death of them because to be without a head is to be without a physical body. John still writes they are alive after physical death as 'souls' in heaven. Because death of their body cannot destroy the spirit in man indwelt with the Holy Spirit. (Jo 6:63) John was given understanding of life after physical death for the faithful. Without a soul there is no life. (Mt. 10:28) But John is given understanding of life (soul) existing in heaven after physical death and that without a body become as the angels in heaven after His cross and resurrection. (Mt. 22:30-32)

These living souls, as spirits lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. How can a thousand years not come until after Christ returns since these faithful saints have LIVED and REIGNED with Christ in this time?

You ask: "These living souls, as spirits lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. How can a thousand years not come until after Christ returns since these faithful saints have LIVED and REIGNED with Christ in this time?"

The "living souls" of Rev ch20 are not Resurrected until Christ Returns/Second Coming = 1 Thess ch4 and Rev ch19

A.) When Christ Returns He brings with Him the living spirits/souls of those who died in Him = 1 Thess ch3 & ch4

B.) When Christ Returns He destroys the Antichrist with the Brightness of His Coming = 2 Thess ch2

C.) When Christ Returns we are Transformed into Immortal Bodies made in His Eternal Image = 1 Cor ch15 & 1 John 3:1-3

 

[rwb]

100% = If we are in Christ, we can never die, only our flesh dies and goes to the grave.

John ch11
Martha said to Jesus, “Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died. 22But even now I know that God will give You whatever You ask of Him.”

23“Your brother will rise again,” Jesus told her.

24Martha replied, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

25Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life.
Whoever believes in Me will live, even though he dies.
26And everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?”

Ask your self this question: Has the LORD Returned and Resurrected the dead in Him as well as transforming our mortal bodies into immortal glorified bodies?

This is a simple YES/NO answer

What happened to their eternal spirit indwelt with the life giving Spirit from Christ when they physically died? The Lord has already come and through Him we have eternal life through His Spirit in us, and that life, as Christ has promised, shall NEVER die! Do you believe this? Christ would not tell us the life we receive through Him is eternal life if physical death for us is no different than those who die without the promise of eternal life. Christ would not say this life from Him is eternal if physical death means cessation of both body and spirit.

In death our physical body returns to the dust of the earth, but the spirit given man returns to God who gave it. The question that every human must consider is will my spirit return to God with the life giving Spirit we received from Christ when we were born again, or will my spirit return to God who gave it without life from His Spirit? For this reason Christ tells us, "Ye must be born again"!

Ecclesiastes 12:7 (KJV) Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

As spiritual body we ascend to heaven after physical death IF we have His Spirit in us. Without the life giving Spirit in physical death man is said simply to be in the grave in silence and darkness. That is to be truly dead, because for those who physically die without the life giving Spirit in them will not again know life until they are resurrected from the graves to stand before God at the GWTJ to give account of their lives according to what is written in the books and the book of life. Then they will be cast into the eternal lake of fire that is the second death.

 

[David in NJ]

What happened to their eternal spirit indwelt with the life giving Spirit from Christ when they physically died? The Lord has already come and through Him we have eternal life through His Spirit in us, and that life, as Christ has promised, shall NEVER die! Do you believe this? Christ would not tell us the life we receive through Him is eternal life if physical death for us is no different than those who die without the promise of eternal life. Christ would not say this life from Him is eternal if physical death means cessation of both body and spirit.

In death our physical body returns to the dust of the earth, but the spirit given man returns to God who gave it. The question that every human must consider is will my spirit return to God with the life giving Spirit we received from Christ when we were born again, or will my spirit return to God who gave it without life from His Spirit? For this reason Christ tells us, "Ye must be born again"!

Ecclesiastes 12:7 (KJV) Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

As spiritual body we ascend to heaven after physical death IF we have His Spirit in us. Without the life giving Spirit in physical death man is said simply to be in the grave in silence and darkness. That is to be truly dead, because for those who physically die without the life giving Spirit in them will not again know life until they are resurrected from the graves to stand before God at the GWTJ to give account of their lives according to what is written in the books and the book of life. Then they will be cast into the eternal lake of fire that is the second death.

100% - and that is why i posted John ch11 which is CLEAR as DAY that only our physical body dies = never our spirit/soul

We fully agree with Scripture and can move forward upon this Truth unto Revelation = Post #95

 

[rwb]

You ask: "These living souls, as spirits lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. How can a thousand years not come until after Christ returns since these faithful saints have LIVED and REIGNED with Christ in this time?"

The "living souls" of Rev ch20 are not Resurrected until Christ Returns/Second Coming = 1 Thess ch4 and Rev ch19

A.) When Christ Returns He brings with Him the living spirits/souls of those who died in Him = 1 Thess ch3 & ch4

B.) When Christ Returns He destroys the Antichrist with the Brightness of His Coming = 2 Thess ch2

C.) When Christ Returns we are Transformed into Immortal Bodies made in His Eternal Image = 1 Cor ch15 & 1 John 3:1-3

A thousand years equates to TIME! We both understand this, but you insist on putting a definitive limit on this time, then insist it shall not be until Christ comes again. But this does not agree with what John has written. How can martyred souls who LIVED and REIGNED with Christ a thousand years be according to you future, but according to John both past and present? Past because these martyred for faith have already lived, reigned and then physically died in this time. Future too because then John writes of others (vs6) blessed and holy, having part in the first resurrection, and overcome the second death who shall live with Christ during this same time, a thousand years.

You understand the physical resurrection of all who are dead and shall not be bodily resurrected until the last trumpet sounds an hour that is coming. Some of the physically dead when Christ returns will be bodily resurrected for life (caught up to be reunited with the spirit that returns with Christ together with those in Christ who are still physically alive at His coming), the rest of the dead will be bodily resurrected to stand before God at the GWTJ.

What you are lacking in understanding is what it means to have ETERNAL life through Christ's resurrection life. Christ very clearly explains to Nicodemus who also appeared to understand only that which is physical. Nicodemus thought Christ was speaking of physical birth when He said "Ye must be born again." Christ tells him and us a man must be born again without which he cannot see (know understand) or enter the kingdom of God.

John 3:3 (KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

John 3:5 (KJV) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

We cannot know or enter the kingdom of God through the flesh, but must be born of the Spirit, and this like the wind is not physically discerned, but must be spiritually discerned. We can only know/understand that we have been born again through His Spirit.

John 3:6-8 (KJV) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Christ is not speaking of earthly things, but of heavenly things. These things are only spiritually discerned when we believe in Christ, and whosoever believes will never perish but have (not will have) ETERNAL LIFE.

John 3:11-15 (KJV) Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Paul explains how humans are physically alive but spiritually dead! That's what he means when he says "Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)". To be quickened together with Christ, is to have eternal life through Him. Our body, that which is physical is dead through sin, but our spirit is eternally alive through Christ when we have spiritual life through Him, and that life is ETERNAL in our spirit.

 

[rwb]

100% - and that is why i posted John ch11 which is CLEAR as DAY that only our physical body dies = never our spirit/soul

We fully agree with Scripture and can move forward upon this Truth unto Revelation = Post #95

Where does our living spirit go when our physical body dies? If our spirit dies with our physical body then the eternal life Christ promises to all who live and believe in Him is temporal and dependent upon physical life.

 

[Earburner]

Those who take the Mark never make it to the 1,000 Year Reign of Rev ch20 for they are destroyed at His Coming.

That would mean ALL the saints would be bodily resurrected into immortality, and every living person who remained in their mortal flesh was unsaved.

Yes! No more death. The saints are glorified with Jesus, and all who did not have the Spirit of Christ were none of His, and therefore were destroyed. No more births with the saints, and no more births among those destroyed, equals no more death!

Conclusion: AFTER Christ returns in flaming fire from heaven
NO ONE, who is mortal flesh on this planet, will be left alive, to repopulate this planet in the Pre-mil belief of an additional one thousand years.