Yeah, I don't see any discussion happening yet. You've obviously got some kind of agenda, and I guess I'm not playing along. Too bad! And someone with a screen name Faither!
Not by works - but by faith
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The English language is translated from the Greek, not the Latin. There are a few words that have Latin roots such as the word worship. Worship, is the combination of to Latin words, worth and ship. The shipping of worth! If you can't agree that the English language has direct origins from the Greek, you'll never be able to digest any of the other facts id present to you.
Got to be teachable mark.
The English language? Translated from Greek? Direct origins from the Greek? The language isn't translated, words are. Phrases are.
I think what you may be trying to say here is that the English word Faith, with it's Latin origin of Fides, is used to translate the Koine Greek word Pistis.
But I have to say I lose interest with all the meaningless attitude, the little digs. So unnecessary in my opinion.
Much love!
That fine. Just be advised, it's just not you were talking about but your household.
Grailhunter
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I love word studies. Latin is irrelevant, but the various biblical languages are very important.
1. There were several languages that the Hebrews were introduced to over the centuries. But Greek was distinct and when the writers of the New Testament decided to use that language in their texts, there were difficulties. In some cases the Christians had difficulties finding their meanings in the Greek vocabulary....so sometimes they would modify the definitions and meanings of words and the way they were applied. That is why if you look up the meaning of a Greek word in the Greek language, it can be somewhat different than the Strong's definition of the same word.
2. The word faith is a good example. The Greek word for faith and it's implication are different than the Christian use of it. The Christian use of it is different than the Old Testament / Hebrew use of it and also what it implies. The Old Testament is over three times the size of the New Testament, but the word faith is not used that often, and many times not in relation to faith in God. In the New Testament....that is a third of the size, the word faith is used five time as frequently. 58 vs 279 times
3. Not only that, but Christian faith is as much a power...a spiritual connect...as it is a matter of belief. That belief actually causes things...in the physical and the spiritual that we have come to call miracles. There is no word in the Greek that expresses this meaning. Miracle, this is another word that does not appear very often in the Old Testament.
4. The Apostles were seeing and experiencing things that no one had seen before. They were being taught things that no one had been taught before. It is one of the proofs of the scriptures...they were literally walking and living with God. So it comes to no surprise that they were grasping for words to describe what they were experiencing and learning. No surprise that there were no existing words to describe the power and majesty of all that.
The Hebrew is possibly the worst language on the planet, the Greek " is" the most precise language on the planet!
Grailhunter
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Not sure what you are trying to imply.
No ancient language is precise. For one their vocabulary are limited. That is characteristic of ancient languages. They make up for limited words by how they use the word in relation to other words. Taking English for example...precise by tonnage. There are men that cannot lift a podium dictionary that contains most of the words in the English language. Now compared to Hebrew and Latin...Greek is superior, and one of the reasons I think they chose Greek for the language of the Bible.
Agreed, my point was the Greek is the " most " precise , not precise. I think we just proved the point lol.
Grailhunter
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Would I be correct to say you might have some "pre Google" learning in the Hebrew and Greek?
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Was Christ a teacher? lol
I fellowship with the Baptists, the Lutherans, the Pentecosts, the Catholics, the Glad Tidings Assembly of God, Mormons, the Moravian Church and nearly a dozen non-denominational churches and I have had Jewish friends for most of my adult life.
There are things I disagree with and there are things I agree with. But I love Christians and will stand with them and praise God.
Are you one of the gifted teachers Christ has given to perfect the saints.
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