You said you learned it from a book called Maccabees which someone told you to read.
You don't even know the name of the pharisee who wrote thd book but you believed it anyway.
That’s not what I said I said that I learned it from a Christian Jew
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You said you learned it from a book called Maccabees which someone told you to read.
You don't even know the name of the pharisee who wrote thd book but you believed it anyway.
Romans 8:10-11No he didn't. Your body is alive. This is not debatable.
This is the resurrection of the dead.Romans 8:10-11
"And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you."
That’s not what I said I said that I learned it from a Christian Jew
No, that is living out this physical life. Are you saying the Holy Spirit is currently not in you? It will only be in you hundreds of years from now, after a resurrection?This is the resurrection of the dead.
That's a matter of opinion I believe that it has.
You are missing the forest for the trees here brother. Its not THE Anti-Crist but THAT Anti-Christ.My point is that the man of sin and the sea beast are the same which is nothing like the biblical description of the antichrist. Read the four verses below which are the only verses in the entire Bible that mentions the antichrist and you will see they are nothing like the descriptions of the beast or the man of sin
The Anti-Christ is the Last Beat Head that arises in Europe and is born in Greece, AND who has to have Assyrian Blood. Thus he is a Turk, born in Greece, thus he is eligible to come to power in the European Union.The antichrist is much different from the sea beast in the book of Revelation. The sea beast purpose is to rule the earth to be worshipped as god, destroy Babylon the great and to try to wipeout the church.
Jesus was about to ascend at that moment to present the firstfruits, the OT redeemed to God. This was when they physically entered Paradise. Lazarus would not stay on earth after experiencing the first resurrection. Neither would any coming out of their graves that week.
The antichrist was already on the earth in Johns days and it’s purpose to deceive and to divert people away from the Messiah Jesus the Christ. The antichrist is more like the land beast from the book of Revelation also known as the false prophet. The antichrist is also not one but many a deceiving spirit inside people.
The perfect description of the antichrist at that time was apostate Israel. The Pharisees were supposed to point the Jews to their messiah but instead they turned the people from Jesus and directed them to Rome and had the Jews state “we have no king but Cesar” That is who John was describing in his epistles.
If we’ve been made alive, then that is resurrection.No, that is living out this physical life. Are you saying the Holy Spirit is currently not in you? It will only be in you hundreds of years from now, after a resurrection?
then please show from history the beast, the religious leader many call teh false prophet and the mark and the angel that circumnavigated teh globe warning everyone not to take the mark.
No Jesus taught about the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel.
The apostles asked Jesus about the time of the end and his coming. Jesus told them the abomination of desolation would take place at the time of the end.
Matthew 24:15 So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination of desolation,' described by the prophet Daniel (let the reader understand),
This we know from the gospels. Jesus taught the abomination of desolation would be placed in Jerusalem in conjuction with his coming.
We also know what you claim was taught by the Pharisees because the pharisee named Flavius Josephus who joined the sect of the Pharisees at the age of 19 said so.
Who do you believe, the Pharisees or Jesus?
You said you learned it from a book called Maccabees which someone told you to read.
You don't even know the name of the pharisee who wrote thd book but you believed it anyway.
You are missing the forest for the trees here brother. Its not THE Anti-Crist but THAT Anti-Christ.
1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
It may not seem important but it is, it id not that [THE] Anti-Christ shall come, even though I could still grasp the overall point, it is pointing unto THAT ONE Anti-Christ as in THAT PERSON who is wickeder than all men before him, you have heard THAT Anti-Christ will come, but even now there are many who stand against Christ. So, he is warning them that this ONE MAN to come may not be here now, but there are still MANY who are against Christ Jesus in this evil world.
So, John is referring unto ONE MAN to come, Paul calls him the Man of Sin, Daniel writes about the Little Horn, he is also called a Beast in Rev. 13. He has many more names, the Assyrian, the Wicked One, Lawless One, the man with a Fierce Countenance, Man of Sin, prince of Tyre, the prince that shall come, Willful King, Son of Perdition, etc. etc. So, we have in the modern age chose ONE NAME as a catch all, the one John spoke of, THAT Anti-Christ this covers them all under one badge.
We know there are MANY anti-christ's on earth, but there is just ONE Anti-Christ, Little Horn, Beast over the 10 Kings, Man of Sin et al.
The Anti-Christ is the Last Beat Head that arises in Europe and is born in Greece, AND who has to have Assyrian Blood. Thus he is a Turk, born in Greece, thus he is eligible to come to power in the European Union.
No, men are only born once, you are confusing MANY anti-christ's with THAT ONE Anti-Christ which is to come. Rome was against Jesus as was their Emperors. Paradise is a holding place for Jewish souls in the earth. That is why Jesus told the thief he would be with him that day in paradise, Jesus only rose three days later.
No, THAT Anti-Christ is the Little Horn/Beast/Man of Sin, I agree there are many anti-christs and it just means anti God in reality, and the anti-christ/anti-God spirit is Eternal just like God. It simply means the opposite of God. But THAT Anti-Christ is referring to ONE MAN.
It has been shown several times, once again
Daniel's (Little Horn) will be present on earth to see the second coming and final judgement as scripture clearly teaches below
No Antiochus Epiphanies 167BC didn't fulfill the scripture below in Daniel's (Little Horn), the literal second coming and final judgement seen below, is a future event unfulfilled
Daniel 7:8-11KJV
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
Are you rejecting that Antiochus Epehanies didn’t desecrate the temple alter?
The coming on the clouds in the Olivit discourse I believe to be coming in judgement. Jesus predicted the destruction of the temple with a date attached to it and history shows that it happened when Jesus said it would happen proving once again to the Jews that He is God
You keep making claims about me which are not true you assume things and accuse me of them this is a very bad way to debate. We should debate in grace and love shouldn’t we?
No one told me to read the book of Maccabees I read it myself. It is recorded history
You said you were shown it by a Christian jew and then told me that I should read Maccabees.
Well I read it and found it to be untruthful.
It is a false interpretation of Daniels prophecy. The Pharisees got it wrong.
The Pharisees called Jesus a false prophet because his teaching did not aline with thiers. Turns out they were wrong.
I Agree, however God's word clearly states the "Fact" (The Little Horn) will be present on earth to witness the second coming and final judgment, a future event unfulfilledWeather I state something or you state something doesn’t make it a fact just different views we could both be wrong
I reject the Pharisees interpretation of Daniels prophecy. Those blind leaders of the blind no nothing. They were simply wrong and have misled multitudes of people.
So are you rejecting that Antiochus Epehanies didn’t desecrate the temple alter?
I Agree, however God's word clearly states the "Fact" (The Little Horn) will be present on earth to witness the second coming and final judgment, a future event unfulfilled
Marty will you deny that the second coming and final judgement is seen below?
Daniel 7:8-11KJV
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.