Prophesy: The Whore of Babylon is ISIS "THE STATUE OF LIBERTY."

[BibleScribe]

...
... Do not mock if you strongly disagree with something. God does not mock.

To All,

One of the problems with Christianity, is that it's sometimes difficult to discern true christians versus non-christians. They all have a ~message~; they all claim to have received from God; they all quote Scripture; and they're in a Christian Forum. So who is who?

Well, we know that the Holy Spirit does reveal the TRUTHs of Scripture. And when we perceive in our Spirit the Written Word, we should inherently perceive not the letter of the Word, but the Spirit of the Word. However, those who do not have the Spirit of Truth within them only see the letter, and are a little like the policeman arriving at the scene of an accident, where a semi tractor is hanging over the bridge railing, ready to plunge both the vehicle and the driver into the depths below. And where a breeze swirled through the open door of the cab and capture some paperwork skyward, -- the "letter of the law" cop treats the litter as the same importance of the truck and life of the driver.

In both cases, neither GOD nor the driver are served without the Spirit of TRUTH. But in all processes we should evaluate both the letter and the Spirit to ensure they are in harmony.


I say all this because we know by the letter that GOD is not mocked, but this "Naben123" says GOD does not mock. However, Proverbs 1 says otherwise:

Proverbs 1:25-31
[sup]25[/sup] Because you disdained all my counsel,
And would have none of my rebuke,
[sup]26[/sup] I also will laugh at your calamity;
I will mock when your terror comes,
[sup]27[/sup] When your terror comes like a storm,
And your destruction comes like a whirlwind,
When distress and anguish come upon you.
[sup]28[/sup] “ Then they will call on me, but I will not answer;
They will seek me diligently, but they will not find me.
[sup]29[/sup] Because they hated knowledge
And did not choose the fear of the LORD,
[sup]30[/sup] They would have none of my counsel
And despised my every rebuke.
[sup]31[/sup] Therefore they shall eat the fruit of their own way,
And be filled to the full with their own fancies.


So right off the bat we should perceive that this person did not even comply with the letter. The only question is: Is anyone paying attention to this persons doctrines, and is anyone sufficiently proficient to evaluate their ~teachings~?


Certainly I have evaluated this person's doctrines and consider myself sufficiently proficient to denounce them as FALSE. And should anyone be interested as to why they're false, I would be more than glad to share that assessment.

BibleScribe

 

[Foreigner]

That's not righteous or Christ like of you to say. Do not mock if you strongly disagree with something. God does not mock.

-- Actually, God said that HE would not be mocked.
His prophets occasionally mocked those who opposed Him, and He didn't seem to have a problem with it.

In 1 Kings 18, Elijah mocked the 450 prophets of Baal:

"It came about at noon, that Elijah mocked them and said, "Call out with a loud voice, for he is a god; either he is occupied or gone aside, or is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and needs to be awakened."






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[Foreigner]

That's your opinion, I can't stress that enough. You will find out that Obama is the Anti-Christ in the end, I don't need to stress that to you either. The truth will set you free. God bless you and have a good day.

-- Barack Obama may be a lot of things - in my opinion, most of them negative for this country - but he is NOT the Anti-Christ.

That opinion is supported neither by Scripture or simple common sense.

But if you wish to make a case, great. If not, then don't expect people to believe it just because you feel yourself an authority.

1948 IS WHEN ISREAL BECAME A NATION ARLIGHT. NOW THAT IT'S 70 YEARS LATER, THE RAPTURE WILL HAPPEN. YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO PRAY FOR ANSWERS LIKE I HAVE. I KNOW THE TRUTH, SO NO ONE CAN'T TELL ME OTHER WISE. LET GOD SEND HIS BEGOTTEN SON TO JUDGE THE WORLD AND REVEAL THE SECRETS OF MAN'S HEARTS. HE WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH TO ALL OF US. KEEP THAT IN MIND. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

WE LIVE IN A WICKED WORLD, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT NOTHING IS PEACHES AND CREAM. THERE IS A FALSE GOD AND A ANTI-CHRIST, AND WE CAN NOT IGNORE THAT PROPHESY.

-- When I was young in Christ I too bought whole-heartedly into the timeline, however....

When I was saved in 1980, they told me the "generation" was 40 years so Christ will be back by 1988.
Then it was 60 years.
Then is was 70 years.
Now I am hearing either 100 years or 110 years.

Watch the fulfillment of ALL scripture, not just the "timeline" descriptions.

 

[tgwprophet]

Because I understand Satan, the Great Dragon, can come as the angel of light... That Satan's objective to deceive is demonstrated so much even among Christains, I have decided not to MOCK. To gather understanding, wisdom, intelligence and knowledge, it is best if we amass as much understanding as possible. IDo we not learn through trial and error? Is it not best to learn from the mistakes of others, rather than make them ourselves? Surely, most people think they are right and that perpetuatesthe desire to show what we know to to others, even if what we think is in error.

In this quest I discovered much and will give one example. Luna, the moon god which is followed bt several different religions including muslims as it is atop their steeples... Has anyone told the muslims their god is dead, RA, Luna or any religion that includes the moon as a god? What was the end for a prostiute? To be stoned to death! Do Muslims use binoculars or telescopes? Have they not noticed the divots on their god? This moon god has already been stoned to death!!! How can one arrive at this simplistic wisdom without learning of the understanding from its religion? How does one learn about them except one is given access because they did not rebuke them,until the understanding is sufficient? Did God not call more than one geographical place babylon? I do not consider USA a righteous country, in fact, I do consider it a den of thieves and murderers, a whore to the world, but to claim it is not or is "a" Babylon I am not sure.

 

[veteran]

Because I understand Satan, the Great Dragon, can come as the angel of light... That Satan's objective to deceive is demonstrated so much even among Christains, I have decided not to MOCK. To gather understanding, wisdom, intelligence and knowledge, it is best if we amass as much understanding as possible. IDo we not learn through trial and error? Is it not best to learn from the mistakes of others, rather than make them ourselves? Surely, most people think they are right and that perpetuatesthe desire to show what we know to to others, even if what we think is in error.

In this quest I discovered much and will give one example. Luna, the moon god which is followed bt several different religions including muslims as it is atop their steeples... Has anyone told the muslims their god is dead, RA, Luna or any religion that includes the moon as a god? What was the end for a prostiute? To be stoned to death! Do Muslims use binoculars or telescopes? Have they not noticed the divots on their god? This moon god has already been stoned to death!!! How can one arrive at this simplistic wisdom without learning of the understanding from its religion? How does one learn about them except one is given access because they did not rebuke them,until the understanding is sufficient? Did God not call more than one geographical place babylon? I do not consider USA a righteous country, in fact, I do consider it a den of thieves and murderers, a whore to the world, but to claim it is not or is "a" Babylon I am not sure.

Surely unrighteousness outside... the Christian West is just as comparable to unrighteousness within the Christian West. The applying of the Babylon harlot symbol to countries in the West like the U.S.A. without equally applying it to unrighteousness in other countries outside the West wreaks of propaganda specifically aimed at the U.S.A.

It's understandable that many countries are jealous of the great power, wealth, resources, and freedoms that the U.S.A. has enjoyed as part of its heritage. Other nations that don't have that should be jealous, just as Esau was jealous of his brother Jacob because of Jacob receiving the Birthright blessing. But that jealousy should drive other nations to The LORD, for He is Who has provided the U.S. its blessings and privileges and strength.

As Socialist and secularist humanism gains more control today in the U.S., God is removing those blessings and priviledges by that 'locust' working, as He already forewarned us in His Word it would happen (Joel). That does not mean God is destroying the Christian principles from The Bible that the U.S.A. was founded upon. Instead it's about a test upon many of us to find just who we're going to follow. That's why it's so easy today under Socialism to forget God and His Word and turn to all the materialism and vices that a nation of great wealth and opportunity has to offer. The more we're given, the more responsibility comes with it. And it can be used to create a situation of great pruning of dead branches, simply because of greater temptation.

 

[popeye]

Naben 123 is another charlatan. She's whacked, people. Get ahold of yourselves. BibleScribe is the only person here that has a good command of his senses, and can discern reality from fantasy. Even Veteran talking to these people gives these obvious self-professed prophets credence.

Can't you people just ignore these whack jobs?

 

[BibleScribe]

Naben 123 is another charlatan. She's whacked, people. Get ahold of yourselves. BibleScribe is the only person here that has a good command of his senses, and can discern reality from fantasy.

LOLOL,

Thanks for your perspective, Popeye. I certainly hope that Christians should all be as you depict, and I know that you and I both aspire to those standards!


Your Friend,
BibleScribe

 

[popeye]

I just can't believe that people on here give these....well....confused people credence by even responding to them. They seek attention and the only way they can get it is by laboring us with some christian diatribe that is from the outer limits of their imagination.

BTW, I am studying the beast and doing alot of thinking about it's possible interpretation, that is, an interpretation that is simple and straight forward. I'm coming to some conclusions, and unfortunately, it's not "necessarily going to align itself with your's". But, if it's any consolation to you, at least you're firmly planted in reality and a sound foundation.

Best,

Mike

 

[BibleScribe]

I just can't believe that people on here give these....well....confused people credence by even responding to them. They seek attention and the only way they can get it is by laboring us with some christian diatribe that is from the outer limits of their imagination.

BTW, I am studying the beast and doing alot of thinking about it's possible interpretation, that is, an interpretation that is simple and straight forward. I'm coming to some conclusions, and unfortunately, it's not "necessarily going to align itself with your's". But, if it's any consolation to you, at least you're firmly planted in reality and a sound foundation.

Best,

Mike

Hey Popeye, (Mike),

Both you and Scripture have it correct:



Proverbs 9:6 (NKJV)
[sup]6[/sup] Forsake foolishness and live,
And go in the way of understanding.

Forsaking should include conversations having foolishness, and going means to continue focusing on those who can receive the things of GOD.



Proverbs 13:20
He who walks with wise men will be wise, But the companion of fools will be destroyed.

Why entertain a fool, when you could be entertaining the wise?



Proverbs 14:7
[sup]7[/sup] Go from the presence of a foolish man,
When you do not perceive in him the lips of knowledge.

... and Popeye, this is your argument in a nut shell. Why do so many continue having a discussion with a fool, violating both Scripture and Wisdom?



Your Friend,
BS

 

[veteran]

Naben 123 is another charlatan. She's whacked, people. Get ahold of yourselves. BibleScribe is the only person here that has a good command of his senses, and can discern reality from fantasy. Even Veteran talking to these people gives these obvious self-professed prophets credence.

Can't you people just ignore these whack jobs?

You make a huge mistake with those false assumptions about me. I give God's Word the credence, not myself or others.

God's Word and His prophecies are of no private interpretation like Apostle Peter said. Concerning prophecy, there is no such thing as modern-day prophets like those of God's prophets in His Word. God has already spoken through His prophets and it was written down for us to study.

And just so happens, that our Lord Jesus Christ made a DIRECT CONNECTION with endtime Jerusalem and the Babylon harlot working represented historically by the paganism that originated in that area of Babylon from ancient history, which later began to be accepted in Jerusalem in Jeremiah's days. A quick look back to the Book of Jeremiah reveals abominations and corruptions in false worship Judah at Jerusalem had fallen into. Ezekiel 8 is especially revealing involving their following the pagan arcana that originated in ancient Sumer, which then flowed to ancient Egypt, Babylon, Greece, Rome, etc. It had to do with the occult then, and it still has to do with the occult today.

But not all Jews in the state of Israel and Jerusalem have fallen into that, as there is still a remnant of them which intend to follow God The Father, even though they still refuse His Son Jesus Christ. If we as believers on Jesus Christ care about those in Jerusalem that are trying to remain faithful to The Father and not the same old paganism that Israel fell to in Jeremiah's day, then we should especially be taking The Gospel of Jesus Christ to them so they will not fall to the false messiah that is getting ready to appear there in our near future.

 

[popeye]

The Great Whore is none other than Catholicism ( unless you can find a Jerusalem that is affiliated with, or represented by, a GOLDEN CHALACE! )

Vatican City is found within the city of 7 hills ( Rome )

The beast the woman rides on is the major land masses that have Catholicism and / or Protestantism as their leading religion ( US, Canada, S. America, Sub-Saharan Africa, Russia, Australia & Europe ). This represents 2/3rds of the worlds people.

The woman ( Catholicism ) is the MOTHER to Protestantism, or her protestant harlot offshoots. Same as the woman of Rev 12 is the MOTHER ( Judaism ) to Christianity. Woman are used as symbols here ( REV 12 & 17 ) because ONLY WOMAN CAN GIVE BIRTH and ONLY WOMAN CAN BE BRIDES. Judaism is the "bride" of God, while Christianity is the "bride" of Christ. Woman were used in The Rev as symbols for the religious ideologies, or beliefs, that are Judaism and Christianity. That simple!

 

[BibleScribe]

Hey Popeye,

I think you may have misrepresented the seven major land masses (i.e., continents):

Seven Continents, (by alphabetical order):
1. Africa
2. Antarctica
3. Asia
4. Australia
5. Europe
6. North America
7. South America

But of course this doesn't work in most doctrinal models, so then the "absolutes" are exchanged for "subjectives". And "subjectives" are as individual as opinions, thus the only argument one can offer is:

2 Peter 1:20
[sup]20[/sup] Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things.


Secondly I think the premise of the Revelation 17 being Rome is disqualified by history:

“[The] five of whom are fallen [presumes John’s work to be written in] Vespasian’s reign. Titus is to come, but only to last for a short time. Perhaps the writer knew of the hopeless condition of Titus’ health. He is therefore either using a literary convention, and assuming an earlier date than is the fact to give his words the force of a prophecy concerning Titus, or, more likely, he is using here material written in Vespasian’s reign which partly suits his purpose and partly not; for there are very good reasons for thinking that this book was written, not in Vespasian’s reign, but in Domitian’s.”[1]​

[1] Eiselen, Frederick, Edwin Lewis, & David Downey, The Abingdon Bible Commentary, Abingdon Press, NY, 1929​

p. 1392​

And I'm not certain why you have some expectation of a "Golden Chalace". If anything, one can consider that in Revelation 17 the woman is seated on a "scarlet beast", but in Revelation 13 the beast is identical except for the "scarlet" depiction. As such I would propose that this beast is one and the same, with the only exception of timeline where this beast goes from existence to a scarlet-existence.


Thus given the evidence, I would simply propose that this Rev. 17 beast is not presented in the historical context as one might easily presume, but rather in a ~future-present-tense~. And that future-present-tense is when Russia attacks Israel, and the world will wonder at the fulfillment of the ancient prophecies spoken of in Ezekiel, Daniel, & Revelation.


Your Friend,
BibleScribe

 

[veteran]

The Great Whore is none other than Catholicism ( unless you can find a Jerusalem that is affiliated with, or represented by, a GOLDEN CHALACE! )

Vatican City is found within the city of 7 hills ( Rome )

The beast the woman rides on is the major land masses that have Catholicism and / or Protestantism as their leading religion ( US, Canada, S. America, Sub-Saharan Africa, Russia, Australia & Europe ). This represents 2/3rds of the worlds people.

The woman ( Catholicism ) is the MOTHER to Protestantism, or her protestant harlot offshoots. Same as the woman of Rev 12 is the MOTHER ( Judaism ) to Christianity. Woman are used as symbols here ( REV 12 & 17 ) because ONLY WOMAN CAN GIVE BIRTH and ONLY WOMAN CAN BE BRIDES. Judaism is the "bride" of God, while Christianity is the "bride" of Christ. Woman were used in The Rev as symbols for the religious ideologies, or beliefs, that are Judaism and Christianity. That simple!

That kind of thinking is more allied to Communist thinking than with someone who claims Jesus Christ as God's promised Saviour. Simple reason is because Christianity did NOT evolve from the Jew's religion called 'Judaism'.

Judaism is Phariseeism, of those who refused Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ. And they only 'borrowed' from Moses and joined it with pagan occultism to produce the traditions of the Pharisees with their Babylonian Talmud philosophical sage writings. That whole false system originated from foreign pagan peoples of Canaan that crept in among the tribe of Judah long ago in history, and illegally became priests (Ezra 2).

 

[popeye]

Let's get technical here.....oh boy....

You must be a jarhead, Veteran. The Marines teach their converts well to put blinders on so that they have no peripheral vision. You're also apparently a Jew hater to boot.

Fact is: Christ was a Jew. Peter and Paul and all the Apostles were Jews as well. Fact is: more than have the Christian Bible is from the Jewish Bible and their scriptures. Fact is: Judaism is a derivation of the word JEW. Everyone knows what a "Jew" is, so splitting hairs on this issue is wasting space and time. Even the Holy Scriptures and Christ uses the terminology, to wit:

Rev 3:9 - Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are J E W S , and are not, but do lie;..."

Put a sock in it, Veteran, with the "communist" BS. I probably have more combat time than you ever saw fighting against communism on the Ho Chi Min Trail and the Central Highlands of Vietnam.

 

[BibleScribe]

LOL,

Hey Popeye,

I hate to suggest that some of the white supremacists have succeeded in leading Christians astray with their message of lies and hate, but tares have been sown and wheat has been choked.


BibleScribe

 

[popeye]

Bible Scribe-

Nothing I can't stand more than those who use scripture to forward a hate message. These types are lower than the low in my opinion. Also can't stand British-Israel-ist. Their whole premise is founded in outright bigotry and racism. I hope I'm standing at the throne and see one of these judged by the Almighty.

The wheats among the tares for sure!

 

[teamventure]

1948 IS WHEN ISREAL BECAME A NATION ARLIGHT. NOW THAT IT'S 70 YEARS LATER, THE RAPTURE WILL HAPPEN. YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO PRAY FOR ANSWERS LIKE I HAVE. I KNOW THE TRUTH, SO NO ONE CAN'T TELL ME OTHER WISE. LET GOD SEND HIS BEGOTTEN SON TO JUDGE THE WORLD AND REVEAL THE SECRETS OF MAN'S HEARTS. HE WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH TO ALL OF US. KEEP THAT IN MIND. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

WE LIVE IN A WICKED WORLD, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT NOTHING IS PEACHES AND CREAM. THERE IS A FALSE GOD AND A ANTI-CHRIST, AND WE CAN NOT IGNORE THAT PROPHESY.

are you at all implying that you know the truth while the rest in this thread do not?? as if you're the only one who hears from God?

 

[veteran]

They don't realize what they're saying teamventure, they've been programmed by the lies of their Pharisee 'tare' priests for so long.

Zech 14:20-21
20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD's house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.
(KJV)

 

[tgwprophet]

I have made note that during certain times of the year, both the moon and the sun can be seen in the sky. With that I considered the viability that one could take a picture of the Statue of Liberty with the sun in the background and the moon reflected off the surrounding water... A prophecy fulfilled???

If memory serves correctly, I believe that John Hagey ( a Baptist Texas Minister ) gave credit for this statement below to another. In a very eloquent manner he stated that God would have to appologize to Soddom and Ghormah (?spelling?), if God did not punish USA for its ways. (not a quote nor verbatim). I agree.

 

[Retrobyter]

Shalom, BibleScribe.

...
To All,

During the Clinton administration, some prankster created a pink $3 bill with Hillary's picture on it. Some person took it to a McDonalds, ordered food and tendered the $3 bill. The cashier accepted the bill, gave change, and the food.

The point being, -- not all people at the ~quality~ of a McDonalds worker, -- some will believe anything. However GOD calls us to wise, not foolish.


BibleScribe

Sorry this is a tad bit late, but ...

Ironically, the McDonalds worker may not have been so foolish; he/she may have been an amateur COLLECTOR and realized the true value of such a forgery! Something like that in a few years time may be worth a considerable amount of REAL money, especially if we as a nation actually have the audacity to put her in office as president!

Shabbat shalom, Naben123 and all.

YES IT'S JERUSALEM, WHICH IS THE LAST PROPHESY WHEN OBAMA SIGNS A PEACE TREATY WITH ISREAL FOR 7 YEARS. THAN AFTER THIS, DESTRUCTION IN ISREAL WILL COME, AND OBAMA WILL NOT ESCAPE. That's an another topic that I will discuss soon, but we are only focusing on the whore of Babylon. Eygpt was the first to worship ISIS, but because of sin and wickedness increasing during the end times, ISREAL/JERUSALEM turn their backs on God and worship a false God which is ISIS.

Eygpt and israel/Jerusalem worship ISIS. That is their false God. That is why God is angry.

This is not just aimed at you but to all: C'mon people! The name is "ISRAEL," NOT "ISREAL!" ("IsReal?" Sure, it's real!) The last two letters of the name is the Hebrew word for God, "EL!" The name is spelled, "yod-sin-reish-alef-lamed," or in English equivalents, "YSR'L." When you add the vowel pointing, the spelling becomes "yod-chireq-sin-sheva-reish-qamets-alef-tsere-lamed," or in English transliteration, "Yisra'eel." That's why I will frequently write, "Yisra'el," or at least, "Isra'el." "Yisra'el" means "he (is) a prince to/with God." "Sar," spelled "sin-reish," means "prince," just as "Sarah," the feminine form, means "princess." Yeshua` in prophecy was called "Sar shalom" or "Prince of peace."

Using the alef symbol (') to offset the last two letters will help remind you that the "'EL" is the Hebrew word for God. The alef (') is that explosive sound you hear at the beginning of words like "egg" or "umbrella" that Hebrew counts as a consonant. The "sheva" is a vowel pointing that looks like a colon } written below a letter. We get our word "shwa" from it, and like the shwa, it is a "throw away" vowel sound, barely vocalized if at all. In this case, it is completely gone marking a place between two consonants, almost making a consonant blend if not for the two syllables involved.

So, please. If you honor God at all, SPELL THIS NAME CORRECTLY IN ENGLISH, ISRAEL or do as I do and add the apostrophe to remind you, ISRA'EL! Thanks.

(Stepping down from soap box.)