I would love to TRY to answer your question: Where did I say if one belongs to a denominational church they are apostate? by quoting YOUStranger said:Where did I say if one belongs to a denominational church they are apostate?
Where did I say that if believers 'feel' like the Holy Spirit is guiding them then they are not apostate?
You misrepresent what I have said.
If I have to explain to you what being 'born-again' means, that tells me all I need to know. See (John 3:10) as a start.
Why wouldn't it be the Holy Spirit that is guiding me? Scriptures tell me I as a believer have the Holy Spirit. Don't they? Please answer. A false teacher is not hard to spot when you know the Scriptures. The Holy Spirit will not lead you into contradiction of the Scriptures.
Plus, are you saying you are not aware of the 'spirit' that leads you? Are you saying you cannot make the distinction between a false or demonic spirit and the Holy Spirit in your life? Please answer,
Stranger
“....Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, etc, over all have become apostate...”
“Many Protestant churches are in an apostate condition....”.
If a believer belongs to a church which has a central authority.....when the central controlling authority goes amiss, then they go amiss with it.
“Every group of Christians, no matter who they are, will experience apostasy as a group.”
But then you also say this: “Believers however can separate themselves from these apostate groups and form another church.”
[SIZE=10pt]AND THIS:[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt] “The Church can still have elements of truth in it. But over time, yes, the church becomes apostate. [/SIZE]Every member of that church may not be in an apostate condition.
So according to YOUR very confusing THEORY which is based on YOUR STATEMEMENTS it seems you are saying that MOST churches are in an apostate condition; especially ones with a central authority.
BUT one can separate themselves from that apostate group/church and form another church and then they are no longer apostate.....even though that INDIVIDUAL may not have been an apostate inside the church that was a church in apostasies.
HOWEVER, as soon as that NEW church they have formed becomes apostate they must then remove themselves from that church (especially if that church has a central authority) and start another church so they won’t be apostate. HOPEFULLY, God willing, that new church won’t become apostate. But if that individual decides the church has become apostate.......here we go again.....we start ANOTHER church that isn’t apostate. Please God, don’t let this NEW church become apostate....I’m tired of starting new churches!!!
My question is: How does one know which church is apostate, who is apostate and how do I decide if I AM an apostate? If I am apostate I want to change my ways and start a church that is not apostate so I won’t be apostate? But if the church I am attending has a central authority and I personally don’t believe it is an apostate church but somebody tells me it is an apostate church because the Holy Spirit told them, who is right? Them OR me?
One thing you did say that I STRONGLY agree with: “....you and others who refuse to see the effort of satan in planting his seeds of lies among the truth, allow the lie to be established.”