Putin Interview & Justification for Peace

[Wrangler]

Although I have not fully absorbed the Tucker interview of Putin, I wanted to document a few take aways.

Brilliant. Tucker said Putin has encyclopedic knowledge of Russian history. Agreed. His analysis from the 9th century on was nothing short of brilliant.

Another poster observed Biden would not have come across anywhere nearly as well. Again, agreed. Same with Obama. In talking to someone from a different culture, it's sometimes convenient to think of things flipped to embrace the fact that you are dealing with someone with an alien perspective. Alien from our culture, heritage and propaganda indoctrination. Therefore, rather than consider how Putin justifies the war, let us attempt to justify the peace in light of the following.

1. Assurances violated in break up of Soviet Union.
2. Minsk Agreement violated.
3. International and UN law violated.
4. Russia denied entry into NATO.
5. Coup d'état of 2014.
6. Discussions to Expand NATO.
7. Largest concentration of Nazi's in world taking over Ukrainian public policy with aggressive intent toward Russia.
8. Attack on the Russian Orthodox Church.

We can explore each one of these in great detail but it is worth examining the situation in light of the Left apoplectic at Fake News of Russian interference with the CIA's actual track record of topping governments around the world for at least 8 decades. See Poland and “policy of appeasement" that could have otherwise prevented WWII. What all that said, how do you justify the peace?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Although I have not fully absorbed the Tucker interview of Putin, I wanted to document a few take aways.

Brilliant. Tucker said Putin has encyclopedic knowledge of Russian history. Agreed. His analysis from the 9th century on was nothing short of brilliant.

Another poster observed Biden would not have come across anywhere nearly as well. Again, agreed. Same with Obama. In talking to someone from a different culture, it's sometimes convenient to think of things flipped to embrace the fact that you are dealing with someone with an alien perspective. Alien from our culture, heritage and propaganda indoctrination. Therefore, rather than consider how Putin justifies the war, let us attempt to justify the peace in light of the following.

1. Assurances violated in break up of Soviet Union.
2. Minsk Agreement violated.
3. International and UN law violated.
4. Russia denied entry into NATO.
5. Coup d'état of 2014.
6. Discussions to Expand NATO.
7. Largest concentration of Nazi's in world taking over Ukrainian public policy with aggressive intent toward Russia.
8. Attack on the Russian Orthodox Church.

We can explore each one of these in great detail but it is worth examining the situation in light of the Left apoplectic at Fake News of Russian interference with the CIA's actual track record of topping governments around the world for at least 8 decades. See Poland and “policy of appeasement" that could have otherwise prevented WWII. What all that said, how do you justify the peace?

The thing with Poland is that W Churchill said 3 years before the War, that Germany will get War weather she likes it of not !

So the push was on for the War regardless ! and when one bothers to look into the Poland games, you will find that the Germans had every right to what the Germans wanted back and all of the dealings coming from the Germans was not being rude at all, for it was the Polish Government that was insane criminals, who were tempted by the UK to be like that !

The real issues were totally disregarded by the UK in total ignorance, in being a total moron regarding what was truly going on in fact !

Polish Government were real mongrel dogs to East Prussian people in fact totally Corrupt ! and Evil, they were killing the East Prussians before the War and when the Germans protest the UK had no regard at all ! for the UK was involved creating such hostility.
Not to mention what was wrong with the proposed Polish corridor, so Germany could have a right to service East Prussia and East Prussia could survive the evil treatment from the Polish Government !

W Churchill said in an interview, that he could not care less, that they were Nazis at all Period ! nor could he care less about the Communist, he did not fear such at all in fact ! but only wanted to win Markets ! that was totally what WW2 was all about ! and the Jews was a side dish to create the so called Zionist State for Lord Rothschild's created Baby !

The powers that be ? had created such rubbish as So called Zionist and the Nazis and Communist in fact ! such was their puppy's ! and anyone who believes in such as the Nazis or Communism is a total moron ! for they are being lead astray, to do the dirty work of the powers that control this world ? The So called Zionist are not Biblical Zion at all far from it in fact, they do not Serve God at all, but Mans works, with their Talmud Whore, that are in fact the most Evil Books ever written by far, total Racial prejudice insanity for a start !

So the German people never thought that the issue of East Prussia would become WW2 in fact because, they in fact had every right to service their people in that State.

Joe Biden does not want to have open talks with Putin in fact regardless, because Biden would loose and be exposed for being a outright War monger ! As all them people being killed and homes destroyed is his fault in fact ! He brought that on ! and all that the idiot can do is escalate escalate ! He is like Davros,Exterminate ! Exterminate ! The next Term of Biden we will see him in getting about in a Chair like Davros had i am sure.

 

[Wrangler]

The next Term of Biden

God forbid!

 

[Wrangler]

because Biden would loose and be exposed for being a outright War monger

It is already obvious to anyone paying attention that TPTB want America to create and sustain conflict. This is the way of the Adversary.

 

[Mr E]

Wars, more wars and rumors of wars. We are entering a time of worldwide strife and conflict. It's a reflection of a spiritual battle and it's interesting to me that Tucker is beginning to see it as such and has articulated this several times. He even asked Putin about it.

"Do you see the supernatural at work as you look out across what's happening in the world now? Do you see God at work? Do you ever think to yourself, 'these are forces that are not human'?"

Putin flatly declined to let the conversation go this direction. However, Tucker's question was an honest one. Among his reasons for going to war with Ukraine-- Putin said this>>> (of the West- NATO alliance)

They sought to destroy our traditional values and force on us their false values that would erode us, our people from within, the attitudes they have been aggressively imposing on their countries, attitudes that are directly leading to degradation and degeneration, because they are contrary to human nature. This is not going to happen.

In Putin's view, this is indeed a Holy War.

If you haven't read Putin's speech at the outset of the conflict-- you should. He clearly laid out his reasons for standing up to NATO aggression-- and NATO deception.

Putin’s Case for War, Annotated (Published 2022)

For the second time in days, President Vladimir V. Putin addressed Russians about his aims in Ukraine. A close look at his speech offers hints to what may lie ahead.

www.nytimes.com

It reminds me very much of a similar situation as seen by Daniel-- recorded in Dan 11 about a series of kings who sit at a table and lie to each other.

 

[Marymog]

What all that said, how do you justify the peace?

Don't invade other another Country that hasn't done anything to your Country.

 

[Wrangler]

Don't invade other another Country that hasn't done anything to your Country.

That disqualifies Ukraine against Russia for there to be no peace.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Don't invade other another Country that hasn't done anything to your Country.

Did Russia invade Ukraine ? No ! it has no regard for such at all in fact, but it's got to do with the East that borders Russia and many things that most people in the West have no regard for, for one reason they know nothing much of Ukraine in fact, not do they truly care in fact ? but for the spin that has been portrayed by the West !
It has nothing to do with the West in fact ! but has everything to do with Russia, as it's on it's Boarder in fact.

Do not feed Zelensky as the boy is a total fool who has proved that he has no regard for Ukraine's people in the East at all ! not to mention his Nazi mates that the MSM whore hides from view ! Don't talk about Zelensky's Nazi mates Hide that fact from the West ! come on, really. Zelensky is a total creep and clearly a sick filth monger degenerate comedian, my wife turned off the show about him as comedian about half way through, she had enough of such a degenerate creep show.
Zelensky is a filth monger and in regards to being Jewish, he is Jewish Trash ! The PM of Israel hates him and i like the PM of Israel and back him up totally. but i can not stand Zelensky the Nazi loving moron ! But then again i do know that their were Jewish Nazis bastards back in WW2 and the same regards in Communist Russia was filth monger Jews as well ! for they are not worthy of God at all in fact ! not even the OT are the likes of them worthy at all !
All Nazis and Communist are Anti-Christ in fact and if anyone does not understand that fact, they must be living under a rock, like a rock spider does. Child molesters and the same creep show that is infesting the West, grooming children for depravity ! who is behind all of such ? Well just look at what they promote ! as Jesus said, You will know them by their works !

Russia was forced to go into War in fact ! by Joe Biden, for he is the number one moron that pushes for all this killing field in fact. It's on Russia Boarded and to do with their number one Military Base ! Anyone would be insane to do what Biden has did on this issue !

What would the USA do if it's main number one Military Base was under such a threat and all of the rest was on it's own boarder ? would they just sit back like a fool ? Hell no !

They did not want an election on the disputed Areas, did they ! No ! Democracy was rejected in fact ! why well because if them people had the right to Vote, the Area would of easy of been Won by Russia and everyone with a brain knows this for a fact ! No War would of come with the rights to Vote in fact and no one killed and no ones Homes etc destroyed !

Who brought this all on ? it was not Russia in fact ! They were forced into it all. They are not going to walk away out of such a issue, because they can not afford not to in fact.

So we have a Moron who only says escalate, escalate, escalate ! that all the Moron can do, or wants to do ! but what does it truly mean ? Well Murder ! how many lives Joe B

 

[Wrangler]

Do not feed Zelensky

@Marymog cannot grasp the question of this thread. She thinks the burden for peace only rests on one side. Her side can provocate with impunity. Sad but it shows how totally effective indoctrination is. When it comes to Mary, the propaganda was successful.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

@Marymog cannot grasp the question of this thread. She thinks the burden for peace only rests on one side. Her side can provocate with impunity. Sad but it shows how totally indoctrination is. When it comes to Mary, the propaganda was successful.

I want peace and an end to a stupid War !
So we need to demand dialog between company's involved, not just a one sided insanity that is typical of Socialism ! We do not need to be dragged into a WW3 Hell No ! Sadly the MSM is claiming that Russia is a sitting duck ?
For if the majority of people truly knew the truth, they would not be so smug ! Billions of people could die of starvation alone it WW3 was to take place. but Joe Biden and crew are all for de population plain ! are they not. who could honestly say that they are not ? So is this one way to get what they want ?
This is not simple crappy 3 rate Warfare rubbish like the way it was back in WW2 or Nam, that we are talking about nowadays ? People have to demand to talk, that what diplomats are for.
I am sick of all the lies that we are being told, Russia has ran out of fire power for one ! No that's Australia that has fire power for 7 days ! not Russia, as they can make such but Australia looks like to loose the ability to even make steel here soon. or fuel ! we can not even make a lawn mower anymore.

 

[Marymog]

@Marymog cannot grasp the question of this thread. She thinks the burden for peace only rests on one side. Her side can provocate with impunity. Sad but it shows how totally effective indoctrination is. When it comes to Mary, the propaganda was successful.

Wow, you love telling lies! ONCE AGAIN, you have lied about me on a public forum specifically to @Reggie Belafonte and I highly suspect I will not get an apology from you.

I have not once said or suggested or implied that "burden for peace rests on one side". If I have said that please tell me the post # or cut and paste it.

Here is the deal Wrongler.....You won't be able to give a post# or cut and paste anything to back up what you said soooooooooooo you how about you publicly apologize for lying (again) about me?

I know it won't happen but at least I am not the one violating the 9th commandment

 

[Marymog]

Did Russia invade Ukraine ? No ! it has no regard for such at all in fact, but it's got to do with the East that borders Russia and many things that most people in the West have no regard for, for one reason they know nothing much of Ukraine in fact, not do they truly care in fact ? but for the spin that has been portrayed by the West !
It has nothing to do with the West in fact ! but has everything to do with Russia, as it's on it's Boarder in fact.

Do not feed Zelensky as the boy is a total fool who has proved that he has no regard for Ukraine's people in the East at all ! not to mention his Nazi mates that the MSM whore hides from view ! Don't talk about Zelensky's Nazi mates Hide that fact from the West ! come on, really. Zelensky is a total creep and clearly a sick filth monger degenerate comedian, my wife turned off the show about him as comedian about half way through, she had enough of such a degenerate creep show.
Zelensky is a filth monger and in regards to being Jewish, he is Jewish Trash ! The PM of Israel hates him and i like the PM of Israel and back him up totally. but i can not stand Zelensky the Nazi loving moron ! But then again i do know that their were Jewish Nazis bastards back in WW2 and the same regards in Communist Russia was filth monger Jews as well ! for they are not worthy of God at all in fact ! not even the OT are the likes of them worthy at all !
All Nazis and Communist are Anti-Christ in fact and if anyone does not understand that fact, they must be living under a rock, like a rock spider does. Child molesters and the same creep show that is infesting the West, grooming children for depravity ! who is behind all of such ? Well just look at what they promote ! as Jesus said, You will know them by their works !

Russia was forced to go into War in fact ! by Joe Biden, for he is the number one moron that pushes for all this killing field in fact. It's on Russia Boarded and to do with their number one Military Base ! Anyone would be insane to do what Biden has did on this issue !

What would the USA do if it's main number one Military Base was under such a threat and all of the rest was on it's own boarder ? would they just sit back like a fool ? Hell no !

They did not want an election on the disputed Areas, did they ! No ! Democracy was rejected in fact ! why well because if them people had the right to Vote, the Area would of easy of been Won by Russia and everyone with a brain knows this for a fact ! No War would of come with the rights to Vote in fact and no one killed and no ones Homes etc destroyed !

Who brought this all on ? it was not Russia in fact ! They were forced into it all. They are not going to walk away out of such a issue, because they can not afford not to in fact.

So we have a Moron who only says escalate, escalate, escalate ! that all the Moron can do, or wants to do ! but what does it truly mean ? Well Murder ! how many lives Joe B

Between you and @Wrangler I am getting my fill of comedy for the month in just a few days.

 

[Mr E]

The war ends when the US says it ends.

The trouble is-- the US doesn't want it to end. This is why, like him or don't..... but the world needs Trump.

 

[O'Darby]

Just an observation: My wife is highly educated and spent the first 37 years of her life in the USSR. She not only believes Putin is Evil Incarnate but insane as well. Anyone who thinks Putin has "an encyclopedic knowledge of Russian history" has been drinking the wrong Kool-Aid.

 

[Wrangler]

I have not once said or suggested or implied that "burden for peace rests on one side".

Semantics. No answer to my repeated question of how you justify peace. Sad, really.

 

[Marymog]

Semantics. No answer to my repeated question of how you justify peace. Sad, really.

Lol....nice try kiddo. Partially quoting me.

If I have suggested or implied that the "burden for peace rests on one side" please tell me the post # or cut and paste it.

You haven't. You can't. Which means you are lying.

I have answered your question so ONCE AGAIN you lie.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Between you and @Wrangler I am getting my fill of comedy for the month in just a few days.

You do not believe that Russia has the power to wipe the USA off the fact of the earth ?

I remember how the USA once feared Russia in fact, due to the Nuclear Weapons ?
But now in 2024 such a thing has no regards at all truly, why is that, may i ask !
Is the USA fooling it's self ? i think the USA is off with the Pixies.

Back in the 1970's i would of supported full on outright War with Communist Russia Nuclear War. even as soon as Russia developed the fires Nuclear bomb would of been the right think to do !

What is so evil about Putin ? Look to Communist Russia that was totally Evil in fact and look at all the people who lived in fear of being killed, even if they spoke out against such trash Government ? But did the USA truly give a rats about all such killings by the Communist ? No it did not, for they feared for their lives in fact.

When the wall came down we had a chance to repair that damage that was done by the pure Evil Communist bastards.

Putin years ago has said what a total mongrel Bastard System Communist Russia was, it was he who exposed it all in fact for the total creep show that it was in fact.

Now we have the USA turning into a Socialist Nation and as anyone with a brain knows, is that Socialism only leads to Communism, that's slavery ! Anti-Christ in fact !
Putin said that the USA was going down the same rabbit hole in fact !

We now have the USA supporting Nazis in Ukraine in fact ! as well as the rest of all the depraved Government in the West ! how retarded can one be, supporting Nazis ! It's a real creep show !

The Sodomites who have hijacked the world in the West clearly have no moral compass at all, for they are that depraved that they support the very things that will wipe them out in fact !
They attack Putin for not totally embracing everything Queer, Putin just said no to child exploitation by Queers ! but Queers can do what they like outside of that issue, but that is not enough for Sodomites, they must have everything or else they War 24/7.

Look at the heads of the Australian Defense force, they are all Queer as a 2 bob watch and publicly hate Aussie Men, even the Head dragged everyone in our SAS down as nothing but the lowest of low ? so the whole thing has been turned upside down on it's head !
Like who goes prancing about bragging about undermining your own Nations Defense people like they do, not to mention they want Islamic Men they are welcome in out Defense Force ! how retarded, we have had such people shoot our own in fact !

It's the Whore Media that works to put blinders on the people ! just like a Whore in fact only undermines it's customer with stupid delusions !
Just remember what Jesus said about this world, That it is full of deceptions and delusions ! that comes through loud and clear to one who is truly born again. but does it come across clear as a bell to you all.

 

[Wrangler]

We now have the USA supporting Nazis in Ukraine in fact ! as well as the rest of all the depraved Government in the West ! how retarded can one be, supporting Nazis !

Great question. What's worse than this level of depravity is not recognizing it.


Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!
Isaiah 5:20

 

[Wrangler]

US spy agency forced Russia's hand. War mongers. Shameful.

CIA Built "12 Secret Spy Bases" In Ukraine & Waged Shadow War For Last Decade, Bombshell NYT Report Confirms | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[Marymog]

US spy agency forced Russia's hand. War mongers. Shameful.

CIA Built "12 Secret Spy Bases" In Ukraine & Waged Shadow War For Last Decade, Bombshell NYT Report Confirms | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Hold on Wrangler. YOU have said that Russia was justified in attacking the Ukraine. You are a war monger. Wouldn't that make you shameful?

Also, the NATO countries of Finland, Norway, Estonia and Poland more than likely are spying on Russia and they border Russia. All those countries have corruption. And as we know CORRUPTION is one of YOUR criteria for justification of going to war.

Is it now ok for Russia to invade Finland, Norway, Estonia and Poland since they have corruption AND have spy equipment which is forcing Russia's hand?

Curious Mary