Death is the destruction of the flesh, which is the physical bodies; as their spirits will be with the Lord after death.
Rapture Ready For Partial Rapture?
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Death is the destruction of the flesh, which is the physical bodies; as their spirits will be with the Lord after death.
1 Corinthians 3:13 reports that this judgment takes place on a specific day and that day is when the Bridegroom comes back to judge His House first.
Again, I'll return to Thessalonians,
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
"the dead in Christ shall rise first", "we which are alive and remain", not, "the dead who died while abiding in Christ shall rise first. Instead, "the dead in Christ". All of them.
This is inclusive language.
Much love!
For what it is worth, I agree.
It is just better if we walk how we are called to walk.
Then , when God 'rolls up the carpet' so to speak, we are ready.
Live ready. The rapture or not, we walk the line because we love Him, not to be ready and worthy to escape!!
Something wrong with that picture.
Loving Him to be close, or loving to get something?
13 each man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it is revealed in fire; and the fire itself shall prove each man's work of what sort it is.
But this does not say it is the day of rapture.
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As being of the first fold that follow His voice and not a stranger's voice to be of "us"; the firstfruits of the resurrection. Those who depart from "us" and not being of "us: are the other fold that had followed the stranger's voice ( John 10:1-5 ) but He MUST bring them as they will be made to hear His voice literally as their King of kings, and be of the one fold and one shepherd; John 10:14-16
Just like there are former believers that err from the truth in believing the lie of the evolution theory and had their faith overthrown; but they are still called to depart from iniquity or else wind up becoming forever vessels unto dishonor in His House. 2 Timothy 2:18-21
That is why we are to call even former believers to repent so they too may obtain the eternal glory that comes with our salvation which is to be received by the Bridegroom as vessels unto honor in His House because He still abides in former believers as verse 13 says in 2 Timothy 2:10-13
We're miles apart on this.
I feel like I'm starting to repeat myself, but I've been fascinated to learn more about how you see these things!
Also, there's so much content, not complaining, I appreciate your work, but it tends to get a little taxing. I'm sure I'll come back to this!
Much love!
Jesus said this to all believers in getting ready for Him by abiding in Him unto death before He comes as the Bridegroom. This first fruits of the resurrection will not apply to left behind saints that goes during the great tribulation when He comes back as the King of kings.
The consequence being the destruction of the flesh says it is for those unrepentant saints left behind as given unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh as he will wage war on the saints left behind and new ones too. 1 Corinthians 5:4-5 has God commanding churches to do that as symbolic per excommunication but when God does it, it will be literal since Satan will wage warn on the saints.
Ok, maybe I understand better what you are thinking.
Throughout the centuries, Christians have died in one of two catagories, the firstfruits, those who have abided in Christ, and are raised/caught up at the rapture, and who receive a certain status and elevation over the other, and, those who have not abided in Christ, and are only resurrected afterward, to a continued mortal status, and who will forever be dishonored within the household of God for eternity.
Is that correct?
Much love!
We can always take a break and hope the Lord is ministering between us as iron sharpens iron since it is on God to cause the increase..
Ephesians 1
9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Let's face facts! I can't stay away!
But as much as we can focus on single points at time that is helpful to me.
Much love!
I'm still of a mind that there is nothing that modifies the inclusive language in 1 Thessalonians, the dead in Christ, we which are alive and remain, I don't see any way around that, except to say, I don't see how that could be, considering not all obey!
If it says "we who are alive and remain", and, "the dead in Christ", why should we not take it to mean Exactly that? Unless there were something written that specifically modifies these statements, but there is nothing there.
To me this excludes the very possibility of a partial rapture.
Much love!
What I really enjoy is that we can come at this from different points of view, and, be nice about it!
1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
I believe there are 3 harvests that makes up the whole of the kingdom of God before Jesus hands it back to the Father.
Matthew 13:33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.
The first fruits;
They that be Christ's at His coming
Those remaining loyal to Christ after Satan has been released from the pit after a thousand years for a small season.
Then the great white throne judgement and death is in the lake of fire for when Jesus gives the kingdom back to the Father
I understand but then that would be like your reference in 1 John 2nd chapter of those abiding and did not depart from us, are of "us", right? Then those dead in Christ as "in" referring to abiding "in" Christ shall rise first and those abiding "in" Christ that are alive and remain will be changed and take n up.
What I really enjoy is that we can come at this from different points of view, and, be nice about it!
Yes. As long as we abide in Him and His words by His grace and by His help as our Good Shepherd, we shall have reasons to rejoice in Him and cast our crowns at His feet in Heaven because we are His crowning achievements in Heaven testifying to His glory since no flesh shall glory in His Presence.
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