Reason for The Crusades explained

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Big Boy Johnson

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YOU HAVE EVERYTHING IN LIFE:
1) HANDED TO YOU
2) GOT TO PUSH GIRLS AROUND AND QUEERS (why not over the tabbble, geez)
3) HAS MORE INTERESTING FARTS

If you gave me a butt baby I could get an abortion. My butt remains behind, behind, like a cold, unwanted, salad you didn't bother to toss.

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“The Scriptures are the food, the comfort,the armor, and weapon of the Christian.” - William Tyndale

Those urging Christians to believe weapons of the world are the armor and weapon of the Christian rebuked by Tyndale.
 

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Study and maybe enjoy it,maybe not,maybe hate the world that do the opposite of God.
We were created with free will, but it wasn’t without limits. Obedience to the Creator was required from day one.
Because humans disobeyed God, they passed sin (imperfection) onto their children.

“Sin” in the original languages of the Bible....(the common Hebrew term translated “sin” is chat·taʼthʹ and in Greek the usual word is ha·mar·tiʹa) in both languages the verb mean “miss,” in the sense of missing or not reaching a goal, mark, or right point......like in archery to miss the bullseye.

That consequence has plagued mankind since the beginning....always “missing the mark” of human perfection....having a leaning towards bad decisions and abuse of free will in imposing their will on others.
This is the problem with human governments....the one thing God did not give us at creation was authority over one another. We are designed to be ruled by our God. Power corrupts humans, but God is incorruptible.
But we are not under the law,
Everything we could do but not everything Be beneficial.
We are not under the Law of Moses but still under the principles behind the law that were restated by Jesus.
His teachings on marriage and divorce, immorality, honesty, paying our taxes, loving our enemies, and doing good to our neighbors. He also told us to be “no part of the world” (John 18:36) because of who is its god and ruler. God gave the world over to the ruler they chose to obey in Eden. (Luke 4:5-7) He has been ruining life for the human race ever since.
Hard to tell what really Is our role here, a game player??? Watchman??? Or observer???
Believer???Rebellious?
God told the first humans in Eden why he put us here...he told them to “fill the earth” with their children and to “subdue” the land outside of the garden. If they had obeyed their Creator in the beginning, and hadn’t lost access to “the tree of life” they would still be here with us enjoying the fruits of their labors...the whole earth would have been a paradise by now...enjoyed by all mankind in peace and love.
We were designed to live forever in paradise on earth. There was never any mention of going to heaven in the garden.
I wish I could skip this earthly time and fast-forward to the time of the trial. Or perhaps I don't know exactly what I will face. Is it the world I expect, or the world that God expects? It's hard to imagine what the difference is between them. My thoughts are limited.
The Bible tells us that we really can’t even imagine the life God has in store for those who love him.
The life we had taken away from us is what Christ came to give us back. (Rev 21:2-3) Human life was designed to be lived on the earth.
Perhaps the most important thing is our consistent mindset when facing God. Only by maintaining this consistent self can God correctly prepare what we need for the future. Don't wait until your fantasies become unrealistic delusions. When God has prepared it, and yet you are still not satisfied.
We have an expectation that things should be perfect, because originally, they were...it was a perfect start but, a selfish individual decided to derail God’s plans for us....and take his place....he wanted what the humans would give to God.....but instead of just eliminating the rebels, as he could have, the Creator decided to turn the rebellion into a very important lesson on the value of obedience....giving us first hand experience of where the abuse of free will can leads us. Would we ever want to go back to this life?
 

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guess you would have been a faithful guard in the German concentration camps.
Are you familiar with logical fallacies? There is one called Strawman. Invoking the Nazi's is a common form of Strawman. Hence, Goodwin's Law. It shows you've lost the argument.

I follow Jesus' commands, which include giving to Caesar what is Caesar's and buying a sword. Somehow that makes me a Nazi, in your estimation.

By invoking the Strawman, you avoid having to actually make an argument. You want to do what? Sounds like you're a Nazi. Not an argument, at all, for not following Christ's commands.
 
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“Caesar Says“ is a dangerous game everyone has to play.

“Caesar says” … “repudiate what Paul says is the Christian armor and weapon or end up like Paul.”

Say yes to Caesar and live. Say no to Caesar and die. Caesar doesn’t like being kept waiting. You have five seconds to decide. It won’t take me that long. Matthew 10:28.

P.S.

Caesar isn’t a Christian. He doesn’t care a whit about what Paul said. Paul is dead, which pleases Caesar. It’s your allegiance to Caesar which Caesar seeks. He is testing your resolve. Through Caesar, the devil is tempting you.
 
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The unitarian slaughterer of his enemies has it wrong: Christians who do not kill their enemies have not placed themselves on a moral high ground; they have been placed on the moral high ground by the Messiah.
Wrong. Have you not read the first thing the Messiah will do upon his return is to slaughter his enemies?
 

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Why is it hard for you to say to the one who is teaching us “you are not a disciple of Jesus if you aren’t armed, ready to kill” that his teaching is false?
Because the teaching is true. You just can't get over the fact of some of Jesus teachings that go against your over-spiritualized world view. He commanded us to buy a sword and it was not because he advocated acquiring dust collectors. The Crusaders knew this to be true.
 

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Because the teaching is true.

Your teaching is false, which is easily demonstrated by appealing to the well-documented and preserved Christian attitude to war in the first few centuries in the history of the church. I invite you to read it and reconsider your argument.

You just can't get over the fact of some of Jesus teachings that go against your over-spiritualized world view. He commanded us to buy a sword and it was not because he advocated acquiring dust collectors. The Crusaders knew this to be true.
 

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Wrong. Have you not read the first thing the Messiah will do upon his return is to slaughter his enemies?

I’ve already responded to your question and my answer remains the same - Wait for the Messiah to return.
 
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Because the teaching is true.

He answered for you @Debp. Did he tell me what you would have told me? If he did, that’s fine and I have a follow-up question for you. If he didn’t, you should have a word with him about it.
 

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Sounds like you're a Nazi. Not an argument, at all, for not following Christ's commands.
Well, you are not the final judge, Wrangler.
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Throw your "straw man" around as much as you like.
Fact remains I stand by what I posted.

I suggest you get yourself a Bonnhoffer biography.
And get a Corrie Ten Boom publication.
You should update yourself on nazis as well.

Looks like you don't have a clue about what happened during WW2.
 

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The Crusaders knew this to be true.

The so called "crusaders" were involved in trying to for people to convert to their false gospel as they did not know the Lord Jesus nor were they led by the Holy Spirit.

Self defense is not sinful, but the so called "crusaders" went way past that and they taught false doctrine so they were agents of the devil.
 

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He answered for you @Debp. Did he tell me what you would have told me? If he did, that’s fine and I have a follow-up question for you. If he didn’t, you should have a word with him about it.
Oh my! How dare a Christian educate a non-Christian on the teachings of Christ that the non-Christian doesn't agree with! Let's get the moderator's to put an end to this.

What I wrote is true and you have no response to the idea that Christ did not advocate buying things to collect dust.

One more important point; Christ's command to buy a sword implying we have to be prepared to use it IS a teaching of Christ. There's a difference between a teaching being FALSE with it being a MINOR teaching. If you weren't so over-spiritualized, you would realize this.
 
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I’ve already responded to your question and my answer remains the same - Wait for the Messiah to return.
What is this; another Non-sequitor. The point is Christ's return will immediately be followed by him slaughtering his enemies. Waiting or not waiting for him is irrelevant.

I suppose you want to suggest that only God can act for the cause of justice. This is anti-Scriptural. This is anti-history. What one would expect from the over-spiritualized. Jesus did not tell us to wait but be prepared (the 10 virgins), to ask, seek and knock - and buy a sword and give to government what is the government's.
 
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Christ's command to buy a sword implying we have to be prepared to use it

So you got an itchy trigger finger and can't wait to shoot someone?

You got that Kyle Rittenhouse syndrome going where you want to go out and find someone to shoot or something?