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I can prove today's "gifts" are vastly different from the originals.You need to prove what you don't believe....its a 2 way street mister.
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I can prove today's "gifts" are vastly different from the originals.You need to prove what you don't believe....its a 2 way street mister.
Prove it.I can prove today's "gifts" are vastly different from the originals.
We need to be careful what we believe.
“On that day, many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, and in your name cast out demons and do many powerful deeds?’ Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you. Go away from me, you lawbreakers!’” (Matthew 7:22–23)
I am. If you can find another example of God giving the gifts beyond the two outpourings and an apostles' hands, you would have used it by now.
What Apostle Paul wrote was this:You cannot have genuine faith apart from scripture. You need to prove what you believe from scripture.
What Apostle Paul wrote was this:
"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Rom 10:17
"He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matt 11:15
The "hearing" comes by the Word of God, but what is that? Is not the Word of God alive? Are all of the Bibles sitting on shelves in the 2nd hand stores across America alive while they for months and even years wait for someone to open them and read by the power of the Holy Spirit? No, when the words are consumed [read or heard] by a person and the Holy Spirit in that person quickens them, then are they the Word of God. Lots of people have read the Bible for the wrong reason with the wrong spirit and received nothing at all: no Life. God's fault? No, and you know why but you will argue with you logical mind to prove what can only be proven to a person by the Holy Spirit.
The "ears of hear" of which Jesus spoke is the Holy Ghost. Without the Holy Ghost in a person that person cannot understand or heart the Word of God even though he is able to read the Bible or hear someone else read it.
Jesus believed in the scriptures and constantly quoted them, but did He ever not have the Holy Spirit of God? Did He ever quench the Holy Spirit of God?
No my friend, you cannot prove anything to anyone who does not already agree with you. If they follow you instead of Jesus and you are wrong then will you not both fall in a ditch?I can prove today's "gifts" are vastly different from the originals.
You cannot have genuine faith apart from scriptur
It's really strange that when I was a wild eyed heathen the devil never did any of these things but when I get saved and receive what God has for me the denominational zombies tell me I'm hell bound. Religion has killed more spirits than any wars
But your "gifts" are not the same as the first century gifts. I can prove this simply by defining what the original gifts consisted of. And Scripture gives no other means of distribution beyond the two outpourings and an apostle's hands... now gone.
What pray tell to all who deny God's Holy Spirit baptism, gifts and callings, are the new rules concerning our relationship with God?
I want to know how to live, to prosper joyfully without the power of the Holy Spirit in my life.
To sit in a lifeless assembly guided only by the mind of man, not believing that God moves in the lives of men. Believing that the Almighty God keeps His Almightyness to Himself. That because you can't understand or believe that those who cry out for and say they received His indwelling Holy Spirit are genuine you condemn them with a wave of mis-quoted scriptures.
The denominationalists, such as Dave, worship the creation of man - i.e. - their denomination and its doctrines, dead traditions more than the untwisted word of God. Like spiritual pool players they place their special "English" on God's words turning them to mean anything except what they were originally and eternally meant to convey.
The Daves of the denominational world fall before the altar of men, worshipping the creation of false religion above the precepts of God.
Beware the spiritual terrorists brethren.
"But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.
Matthew 23:13 NASB
If we think that just because a denominational Zombie professes to be a believer that he or she can't possibly be a hypocrite we are mistaken.
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EVERYONE THAT BLEATS IS NOT A SHEEP.
Is he still posting? I don't see his posts anymore.I turn my back on you and walk away dusting my feet for you are determined to serve your master and be his messenger to spread false doctrine.