Anthony D'Arienzo
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Yeah, like your failure to answer on romans5, post488 which you still have ignored. No you are not a seeker, but a time waster.Then explain the chapter and show where I am wrong.
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Yeah, like your failure to answer on romans5, post488 which you still have ignored. No you are not a seeker, but a time waster.Then explain the chapter and show where I am wrong.
I have not seen that post but Romans 5 clearly REFUTES Limited Atonement and Unconditional Election.Yeah, like your failure to answer on romans5, post488 which you still have ignored.
But Jesus told the pharisees he did not die for them, and that is why they did not believe. (John 10:ff).I have not seen that post but Romans 5 clearly REFUTES Limited Atonement and Unconditional Election.
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. (v 18)
[ALL MEN CAN BE JUSTIFIED BY GOD AND RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE]
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.(V 19)
[NOT ALL WILL BELIEVE THEREFORE NOT ALL WILL BE MADE RIGHTEOUS]
Their heads explode when their traditions get kicked to the curb and they find out God is God.But Jesus told the pharisees he did not die for them, and that is why they did not believe. (John 10:ff).
I have not seen that post but Romans 5 clearly REFUTES Limited Atonement and Unconditional Election.
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. (v 18)
[ALL MEN CAN BE JUSTIFIED BY GOD AND RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE]
It looks like you read without comprehension.I have not seen that post but Romans 5 clearly REFUTES Limited Atonement and Unconditional Election.
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. (v 18)
[ALL MEN CAN BE JUSTIFIED BY GOD AND RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE]
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.(V 19)
[NOT ALL WILL BELIEVE THEREFORE NOT ALL WILL BE MADE RIGHTEOUS]
It is as scripture declares,he cannot seem to welcome any truth at anytime.You haven't refuted one truth presented you yet, no need to congratulate yourself prematurely. Actually, it is you who have been refuted.
Your misinterpretation above would logically have to be Universalism. That's its only end.
All men will be saved, or, all the world will be saved, which means not just Jews, it means from every tribe and nation. But you don't believe Scripture or use 2 Timothy 2:15, you believe in your Finneyism and the heretic Jacobus Arminius, with a large scoop of Robert Sandeman and Pelagius.
Well try and read the post and answer it line by lineI have not seen that post but Romans 5 clearly REFUTES Limited Atonement and Unconditional Election.
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. (v 18)
[ALL MEN CAN BE JUSTIFIED BY GOD AND RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE]
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.(V 19)
[NOT ALL WILL BELIEVE THEREFORE NOT ALL WILL BE MADE RIGHTEOUS]
It is as scripture declares,he cannot seem to welcome any truth at anytime.
He needs to examine himself.2cor13:5
You started that thread and could not answer, now you want to do it with Romans 8? Do you realize inability to comprehend divine truth is a bad sign.The thread topic is only Romans 8.
If you want to discuss Romans 5, please start another thread.
So let's read it very slowly to prove that that verse REFUTES two dominoes of TULIP.It looks like you read without comprehension.
Yeah, like your failure to answer on romans5, post488 which you still have ignored. No you are not a seeker, but a time waster.
You started that thread and could not answer, now you want to do it with Romans 8? Do you realize inability to comprehend divine truth is a bad sign.
So let's read it very slowly to prove that that verse REFUTES two dominoes of TULIP.
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation (Rom 5:18a). This corresponds to verse 12: Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
What do we learn from this?
1. Adam was told that the day he sinned he would die, because the wages of sin is death.
2. Adam sinned and died spiritually and later died physical.
3. But this one man's sin brought the curse of sin and death upon THE WHOLE HUMAN RACE -- "ALL MEN".
4. The end result of sin is both physical death and eternal separation from God (the second death).
Next we have this truth: even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. (Rom 5:18b)
What do we learn from this?
1. The righteousness of Christ -- the one and only Savior and the last Adam -- was necessary to reverse the curse brought about by Adam.
2. Christ was the only Man who obeyed the Law perfectly.
3. Christ was the only Man who took the curse of the Law upon Himself, since "cursed is everyone that hangs upon a tree" (that tree being the cross).
4. But because Christ was the sinless Lamb of God (without spot and without blemish) He paid the penalty for THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD.
5. As a result, God offers the GIFT of eternal life freely to ALL MANKIND -- "ALL MEN".
6. However, as we know from the next verse not all but "many" are saved, because only those who repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ receive the gift of eternal life.
THEREFORE THIS VERSE TOTALLY REFUTES LIMITED ATONEMENT AND UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION.
So who is the one who does not comprehend the meaning of this verse?
And what happens when one domino falls? They all fall down.
This shows you have no grasp of truth whatsoever. Watch and learn.So let's read it very slowly to prove that that verse REFUTES two dominoes of TULIP.
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation (Rom 5:18a). This corresponds to verse 12: Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
What do we learn from this?
1. Adam was told that the day he sinned he would die, because the wages of sin is death.
2. Adam sinned and died spiritually and later died physical.
3. But this one man's sin brought the curse of sin and death upon THE WHOLE HUMAN RACE -- "ALL MEN".
4. The end result of sin is both physical death and eternal separation from God (the second death).
Next we have this truth: even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. (Rom 5:18b)
What do we learn from this?
1. The righteousness of Christ -- the one and only Savior and the last Adam -- was necessary to reverse the curse brought about by Adam.
2. Christ was the only Man who obeyed the Law perfectly.
3. Christ was the only Man who took the curse of the Law upon Himself, since "cursed is everyone that hangs upon a tree" (that tree being the cross).
4. But because Christ was the sinless Lamb of God (without spot and without blemish) He paid the penalty for THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD.
5. As a result, God offers the GIFT of eternal life freely to ALL MANKIND -- "ALL MEN".
6. However, as we know from the next verse not all but "many" are saved, because only those who repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ receive the gift of eternal life.
THEREFORE THIS VERSE TOTALLY REFUTES LIMITED ATONEMENT AND UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION.
So who is the one who does not comprehend the meaning of this verse?
And what happens when one domino falls? They all fall down.
Look clown ,you were unable to answer then or now. Look it up you had all week to answer...in fact you cannot answer if you take all yearDistraction and the deflection.
This thread is about Romans 8.
Why don't you guys give links to what you're talking about so others can find it?
I don't think you wanted it found, you just want to bloviate.
Exactly, he plays this game incessantly. He offers false accusations which are baseless, then cannot answer, yet says he has and adds to Scripture. Same thing, different thread.Look clown ,you were unable to answer then or now. Look it up you had all week to answer...in fact you cannot answer if you take all year
Everything you post shows your not interested in truth.I think people like you are called Internet trolls.
YEP!This shows you have no grasp of truth whatsoever. Watch and learn.
The first all men...
are spiritually dead in Adam....
The second all men..
Are spiritually alive in Christ by new birth
They are born again.
Hint;
Not all who were physically and spiritually dead in Adam (all humanity who are physically born)
Not all are born again...only the elect..got it my spiritually blind friend?
In Adam all die.
In Christ all live.
All men die in Adam
Not all men who were physically born in Adam, are spiritually alive In Christ.
Election makes the difference, you know, the teaching you fight and oppose.
This happens because @Enoch111 and @CoreIssue have thought in their minds what they think the Gospel is, what they think happened, then they read these ideas into Scripture. In other words, they've made up their own gospel and wrest Scripture out of context to support it.It looks like you read without comprehension.
It looks like you have not quoted any verse that means what you think it does.