All of them in post #300.BreadOfLife said:Since we seem to have a communication breakdown - tell me which questions that I HAVEN'T answered.
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All of them in post #300.BreadOfLife said:Since we seem to have a communication breakdown - tell me which questions that I HAVEN'T answered.
Scripture says baptism saves you. Your opinion is that it doesn't.Stranger said:Elementary dear Watson.
(Heb.6:1-2) " Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms...."
Baptism saves no on, as far as heaven and hell. Your first reference to (1 Peter 3:20-21) proves it. Baptism is a doctrine in the church I attend. It doesn't replace faith in Christ for justification.
Nothing you have said yet has added anything in my walk with Jesus Christ. Perhaps you will add something that will. I will wait for it.
Stranger
ya, i don't quite get that, he has already given two or three mods the finger? lol. but the truth comes out in the margins, i guess, if you are able to practice tolerance. It's prolly good for us.mjrhealth said:YEs you are aggeressive you realy need time out.
And now, you're just being dishonest.Stranger said:All of them in post #300.
Stranger
And honesty, it would seem, is especially difficult for YOU . . .bbyrd009 said:ya, i don't quite get that, he has already given two or three mods the finger? lol. but the truth comes out in the margins, i guess, if you are able to practice tolerance. It's prolly good for us.
Plus, you couldn't get a better witness of what he represents, right? Which also applies to anyone, you or me. Forgiveness is hard, sometimes.
This is not the first time you have claimed your questions have not been answered. It's your standard reply when you are stumped.Stranger said:All of them in post #300.
Stranger
1 Peter 3:20-21 proves the opposite. Baptism doesn't "replace faith", it follows it. Noah and his family were saved through water, that is what it says. It does not explicitly say baptism but a foreshadow of salvation through "ritual washings" : baptism.Baptism saves no on, as far as heaven and hell. Your first reference to (1 Peter 3:20-21) proves it. Baptism is a doctrine in the church I attend. It doesn't replace faith in Christ for justification.
No. You're being dishonest. You ask which questions you need to answer. I showed you. And now you refuse to answer any. Whose being dishonest?BreadOfLife said:And now, you're just being dishonest.
Let me know when you want to have a grown-up conversation . . .
Pay attention to what I said. Go back and reread and re-frame your statement.Marymog said:Scripture says baptism saves you. Your opinion is that it doesn't.
There is nothing to wait for.
Mary
Marymog is correct. when she wrote "Scripture says baptism saves you. Your opinion is that it doesn't."Stranger said:Pay attention to what I said. Go back and reread and re-frame your statement.
Still waiting.
Stranger
I asked you to tell me WHICH questions I haven't answered - and your response was. "ALL of them."Stranger said:No. You're being dishonest. You ask which questions you need to answer. I showed you. And now you refuse to answer any. Whose being dishonest?
It's not a question of 'grown-up'. It's a question of being 'wrong'.
Stranger
No smoke screen. Go back and re-read my response in post #306. And then, as I said, re-frame your statement.Mungo said:Marymog is correct. when she wrote "Scripture says baptism saves you. Your opinion is that it doesn't."
I gave you many scriptures to demonstrate that but you have ignored them
You latest post is just a smokescreen to avoid answering.
I did tell you which questions. All of them in post #300.BreadOfLife said:I asked you to tell me WHICH questions I haven't answered - and your response was. "ALL of them."
That's a crock.
If you want me to answer your questions - then tell me WHICH ones you want me to answer. Be specific.
If I have already answered a question - I'll refer you back to the post. If I haven't - I'll answer it.
Why all of the mystery??
What have you got to lose??
He will appeal to post #300, which has been answered in part in post #303, 310, 311, 326, and line by line, question by question, in post #320. He has ignored me as well.Mungo said:Marymog is correct. when she wrote "Scripture says baptism saves you. Your opinion is that it doesn't."
I gave you many scriptures to demonstrate that but you have ignored them
You latest post is just a smokescreen to avoid answering.
BreadOfLife said:How dare you threaten his self appointed authority!I asked you to tell me WHICH questions I haven't answered - and your response was. "ALL of them."
That's a crock.
If you want me to answer your questions - then tell me WHICH ones you want me to answer. Be specific.
If I have already answered a question - I'll refer you back to the post. If I haven't - I'll answer it.
Why all of the mystery??
What have you got to lose??
Humor me.Stranger said:I did tell you which questions. All of them in post #300.
Why is that so difficult?
Stranger
Sorry - but I just couldn't help myself . . .kepha31 said:How dare you threaten his self appointed authority!
You didn't answer any of the questions I asked in post #300.BreadOfLife said:Humor me.
Tell me WHICH questions I haven't answered.
If you can't tell me - then you know I've answered them.
Your post #306 refutes nothing and doesn't even attempt to. You just throw out an irrelevant scripture verse and then give an opinion. that bears no relation to the scripture.Stranger said:No smoke screen. Go back and re-read my response in post #306. And then, as I said, re-frame your statement.
Stranger
1) [SIZE=11pt]The faithful who are still alive at the 2nd Coming of Christ will indeed be caught up in the air to meet the Lord.[/SIZE]Stranger said:You didn't answer any of the questions I asked in post #300.
Here they are, from post #300 which was in response to your post # 296...just to keep them in the context of the argument. Which I know you appreciate.
1.) I didn't say anything about a pre-trib rapture in post #293. I said,'you acknowledge a rapture where believers meet the Lord in the air'. Correct? So, do you?
2.) How do you identify the faithful at the Second Coming of Christ, as meeting him in the air, when at the Second Coming He comes back to the earth? And, at the Second Coming when Christ divides the sheep and goat nations to enter the kingdom, they are not in the air, but on the earth.
3.) Who are you to tell me I am not part of the Catholic Church, when the Roman Church says otherwise?
4.) Again,, is (2Cor. 5:10) a judgment of rewards or not? Is (1Cor.3:11-15) a judgment of rewards or not? How is this 'purgatory' when it is works that are burned and not the believer?
5.) Again, if the Great White Throne Judgment is the General Judgment, what is the judgment that took place 1000 years earlier? (Rev. 20:4-6) And if the Great White Throne Judgment doesn't take place in heaven or earth, (Rev.20:11), then what is the judgment in the air, (1Cor. 3 and 5). And, what is the judgment of the sheep and goat nations which is on the earth? (Matt. 25:32)
These are my questions which you have not answered. They are in response to your post #296. Please answer.
Stranger
THIS is what you said in post #301:Stranger said:Mungo
Comprehension. I didn't say baptism doesn't save. What did I say?
Stranger