Salvation loss. Is it possible?

[BreadOfLife]

See you at the Judgement then. Alleluia!

Absolutely . . .

 

[Stranger]

Soooooo, your ENTIRE position relies on the myth that Irenaeus lied??
A man who was ONE degree of seperation away from the Apostle John - and he lied because . . . ??
Can you give me a motive??
Can you decipher anything else that Irenaeus "lied" about - or was this just the ONE great practical joke he played on history??

Unbelievable . . .


PS - Oh, ummmm, by the way - "Babylon" was a first century code word for Rome. This is why John refers to Rome as "Babylon" in the Book of Revelation. Peter uses this SAME code for Rome in 1 Pet. 5:13.

No, I only read the lie you presented.

Peter was never in Rome and never started the Roman Church. Nor did Paul. As I have showed.

Stranger

 

[BreadOfLife]

No, I only read the lie you presented.
Peter was never in Rome and never started the Roman Church. Nor did Paul. As I have showed.

Stranger

And you've been defeated by the overwhelming Scriptural, historical and archaeological evidence to the contrary . . .

 

[Stranger]

And you've been defeated by the overwhelming Scriptural, historical and archaeological evidence to the contrary . . .

Sorry, but you haven't provided anything scriptural to prove your point.

Stranger

 

[mjrhealth]

be our final earthly Authority

No He gave us teh Holy Spirit, denied by the religious

Joh_16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

1Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

not mens religions and there

1Ti_4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Mar_7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Thats why we know mens religions are not from God.

 

[mjrhealth]

historical and archaeological evidence to the contrary . . .

you mean like the bits about,

Crusaders of the church murdering Jews, children mothers fathers, any one who opposed her, killing any one who wanted to print a readable ver of teh bible, selling salvation for a price so the church can get rich, sending men of too war to die with the promise of salvation if they died on the battle field, a church thats hides its child molesting priests from the world so that Her ugliness wont be discovered, a church that opposes God in her idol worship, because her doctrines over ride Gods, where men are called father because they have no father. You see its like this

Rev_3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

but you have nothing, because God, Jesus and teh Holy Spirit can not be joined to that which stands in opposition to them. And that is why you call men father, because God is not your father.

so this verse rings true.

Mat_23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

For it only works when God is your father.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Sorry, but you haven't provided anything scriptural to prove your point.

Stranger

Paul in Rome (Acts 28:11-31)
Peter in Rome (1 Pet. 3:15)

'Nuff said . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

you mean like the bits about,

Crusaders of the church murdering Jews, children mothers fathers, any one who opposed her, killing any one who wanted to print a readable ver of teh bible, selling salvation for a price so the church can get rich, sending men of too war to die with the promise of salvation if they died on the battle field, a church thats hides its child molesting priests from the world so that Her ugliness wont be discovered, a church that opposes God in her idol worship, because her doctrines over ride Gods, where men are called father because they have no father. You see its like this
Rev_3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
but you have nothing, because God, Jesus and teh Holy Spirit can not be joined to that which stands in opposition to them. And that is why you call men father, because God is not your father.
so this verse rings true.
Mat_23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
For it only works when God is your father.

And changing the topic is the last refuge of the truly desperate anti-Catholic . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

No He gave us teh Holy Spirit, denied by the religious
Joh_16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
1Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
not mens religions and there
1Ti_4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Mar_7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Thats why we know mens religions are not from God.

Uhhhh, no - He gave us a CHURCH (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23) to be GUIDED by the Holy spirit (John 16:12-15).

Good grief - study your Bible . . .

 

[mjrhealth]

Uhhhh, no - He gave us a CHURCH (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23) to be GUIDED by the Holy spirit (John 16:12-15).

Good grief - study your Bible . .

Blind following teh blind, here again you deny the truth for your churches doctrines. And so persecute Christ still killing those that oppose you. You wouldnt know the truth, because it is in Him not men and religion,

 

[BreadOfLife]

Blind following teh blind, here again you deny the truth for your churches doctrines. And so persecute Christ still killing those that oppose you. You wouldnt know the truth, because it is in Him not men and religion,

Gosh - you're not a very good student of history - OR morality.
In Christian history - there is MORE than enough blood on everybody's hands when it comes to killing - AND sinning in general.

How does that foot in your mouth taste??

 

[mjrhealth]

Gosh - you're not a very good student of history - OR morality.
In Christian history - there is MORE than enough blood on everybody's hands when it comes to killing - AND sinning in general.

How does that foot in your mouth taste??

I am know my countries History, doesnt impress me, know teh history of religion, doesnt impress me, so I chose Christ because He is without fault.Unlike your religion. You cant upset me, I have seeing death you are not 1/100 as scary. Foot im mouth disese i thought it was only for cattle.??

 

[BreadOfLife]

I am know my countries History, doesnt impress me, know teh history of religion, doesnt impress me, so I chose Christ because He is without fault.Unlike your religion. You cant upset me, I have seeing death you are not 1/100 as scary. Foot im mouth disese i thought it was only for cattle.??

That's just it - I'm not trying to "upset" you.
I'm just rebuking and correcting you.

 

[mjrhealth]

That's just it - I'm not trying to "upset" you.
I'm just rebuking and correcting you.

Than you would have to correct Jesus, go give it a go. Are you willing to tell Him He is wrong??? Thats all you have done since you have being here.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Than you would have to correct Jesus, go give it a go. Are you willing to tell Him He is wrong??? Thats all you have done since you have being here.

Jesus is never wrong.
However, YOU are wrong on a DAILY basis on this forum.

 

[mjrhealth]

Jesus is never wrong.

Amen thats why you are always wrong, you are not in agreement with Him.

Now go quietly and find some one else to hassle, you will be on you own on judgement day. As Jesus told a friend of mine, you cant reason with evil.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Amen thats why you are always wrong, you are not in agreement with Him.

Now go quietly and find some one else to hassle, you will be on you own on judgement day. As Jesus told a friend of mine, you cant reason with evil.

No, I can't . . .

 

[mjrhealth]

No, I can't . . .

so thats why you cant even reason with yourself to find teh truth.

God bless

 

[Stranger]

Paul in Rome (Acts 28:11-31)
Peter in Rome (1 Pet. 3:15)

'Nuff said . . .

What a load of bs. (1 Peter 3:15) says nothing about Peter being in Rome.

I never said Paul didn't go to Rome. He did. But the Church was already started. (Rome. 1:8,13). Pretty simple.

Stranger

 

[amadeus]

You should be a politician and you would probably make a good one not being biased. I on the other hand rests on the promises of God. Scripture says, I am not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers. Jesus said, in this world you will have tribulation, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world. As Jesus is my stand-in, I too have overcome the world.

To God Be The Glory

Have you indeed? That is good to hear. Give God the glory